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Mountain_Man8
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11-15-2016, 05:53 AM
#11
It's fascinating how Wine enables Windows applications on Fedora. The idea of .NET becoming open source recently highlights flexibility in development. You can build Unity games using C# across platforms, including Linux, and even export them. Would you believe Fedora will automatically include Wine in future updates to make this more common?
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Mountain_Man8
11-15-2016, 05:53 AM #11

It's fascinating how Wine enables Windows applications on Fedora. The idea of .NET becoming open source recently highlights flexibility in development. You can build Unity games using C# across platforms, including Linux, and even export them. Would you believe Fedora will automatically include Wine in future updates to make this more common?

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audi497mks
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11-18-2016, 03:49 AM
#12
Mono is a free and open-source alternative for .NET on various platforms.
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audi497mks
11-18-2016, 03:49 AM #12

Mono is a free and open-source alternative for .NET on various platforms.

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BrunoZed
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11-18-2016, 09:09 AM
#13
From what I've learned, the main issue seems to be that Linux users aren't keen on catching up with certain features, and Microsoft has become so focused on proprietary tools that they avoid open-source components. I also updated my earlier comment in case it got missed.
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BrunoZed
11-18-2016, 09:09 AM #13

From what I've learned, the main issue seems to be that Linux users aren't keen on catching up with certain features, and Microsoft has become so focused on proprietary tools that they avoid open-source components. I also updated my earlier comment in case it got missed.

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anouke
Junior Member
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11-19-2016, 01:33 PM
#14
No. If you're going to migrate to Fedora but run Windows applications, why bother migrating to Fedora? It's kind of like why get a Macbook Pro when the first thing you did was Install Windows on it and that was the only OS you used?
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anouke
11-19-2016, 01:33 PM #14

No. If you're going to migrate to Fedora but run Windows applications, why bother migrating to Fedora? It's kind of like why get a Macbook Pro when the first thing you did was Install Windows on it and that was the only OS you used?

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xHelenA7X
Junior Member
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11-19-2016, 03:29 PM
#15
It seems like you're trying to grasp why Wine isn't typically part of Fedora. Let's break it down.
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xHelenA7X
11-19-2016, 03:29 PM #15

It seems like you're trying to grasp why Wine isn't typically part of Fedora. Let's break it down.

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Roniko
Junior Member
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11-20-2016, 12:09 AM
#16
It’s a bit unclear. They released part of it under open source and built a Linux client for Enterprise. Unity games function because most of the time they rely on native components, not third-party .net implementations. If you need full .Net support, you’ll have to use Wine and some workarounds. There are two main points: 1) Maintainers of advanced distros often belong to the FOSS community, which strongly opposes proprietary software and is hesitant about supporting tools like WINE. 2) Distributions like Ubuntu focus on simplicity and accessibility; Wine complicates things significantly, making it less user-friendly despite its purpose.
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Roniko
11-20-2016, 12:09 AM #16

It’s a bit unclear. They released part of it under open source and built a Linux client for Enterprise. Unity games function because most of the time they rely on native components, not third-party .net implementations. If you need full .Net support, you’ll have to use Wine and some workarounds. There are two main points: 1) Maintainers of advanced distros often belong to the FOSS community, which strongly opposes proprietary software and is hesitant about supporting tools like WINE. 2) Distributions like Ubuntu focus on simplicity and accessibility; Wine complicates things significantly, making it less user-friendly despite its purpose.

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JBeast2014
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11-20-2016, 08:12 AM
#17
Oh, yeah I totally agree with the FOSS community ideology, and understand the reluctance for using wine from the association. As for Unity and the games made with it, it makes a lot of sense for why it works. Finally for wine, it is a sad mess but it's one of the best things we have for using windows apps on non windows based pcs, so it's quite impressive even with how buggy it is.
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JBeast2014
11-20-2016, 08:12 AM #17

Oh, yeah I totally agree with the FOSS community ideology, and understand the reluctance for using wine from the association. As for Unity and the games made with it, it makes a lot of sense for why it works. Finally for wine, it is a sad mess but it's one of the best things we have for using windows apps on non windows based pcs, so it's quite impressive even with how buggy it is.

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pixie90
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11-24-2016, 01:41 AM
#18
The thing that confuses me is why regular users still rely on WINE for anything besides gaming these days (and PlayOnLinux offers a simpler alternative). Five years back? Yes. Over the past few years, productivity and entertainment apps built for Linux—like video, photo, music editing, CAD, and more—have improved significantly. Many features once missing are now available as web apps thanks to widespread Mac and ChromeOS adoption. Except for games and my amiibo reader/writer driver, I don’t see a single Windows program I’d miss if I damaged my virtual machine.
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pixie90
11-24-2016, 01:41 AM #18

The thing that confuses me is why regular users still rely on WINE for anything besides gaming these days (and PlayOnLinux offers a simpler alternative). Five years back? Yes. Over the past few years, productivity and entertainment apps built for Linux—like video, photo, music editing, CAD, and more—have improved significantly. Many features once missing are now available as web apps thanks to widespread Mac and ChromeOS adoption. Except for games and my amiibo reader/writer driver, I don’t see a single Windows program I’d miss if I damaged my virtual machine.

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Lasersoft120
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11-30-2016, 03:23 AM
#19
It's completely unnecessary to avoid installing Windows when you intend to use Windows programs.
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Lasersoft120
11-30-2016, 03:23 AM #19

It's completely unnecessary to avoid installing Windows when you intend to use Windows programs.

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Thypolicon
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12-01-2016, 03:01 PM
#20
@Sniperfox47 that’s the sole motivation I have for wanting improved Wine support on Linux, and I wondered if others thought it would integrate better. There are countless classic titles that remain unported to Linux for various reasons. My preference for Linux stems from its freedom from hardware restrictions and lack of data collection. @Dat Guy as mentioned earlier, my interest in Wine centers on preserving those rare games that won’t be adapted. Titles like the original Dawn of War are too outdated, while Relic THINKS they’ll succeed with updated versions. SWAT 4 might see a port via GOG, but it’s quite old and uncertain due to its Windows-centric design. My biggest concern is games such as Fallout New Vegas—published by Bethesda and developed by Obsodian. Bethesda seems committed only to Windows platforms, and even Fallout 3 isn’t supported because it’s considered outdated.
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Thypolicon
12-01-2016, 03:01 PM #20

@Sniperfox47 that’s the sole motivation I have for wanting improved Wine support on Linux, and I wondered if others thought it would integrate better. There are countless classic titles that remain unported to Linux for various reasons. My preference for Linux stems from its freedom from hardware restrictions and lack of data collection. @Dat Guy as mentioned earlier, my interest in Wine centers on preserving those rare games that won’t be adapted. Titles like the original Dawn of War are too outdated, while Relic THINKS they’ll succeed with updated versions. SWAT 4 might see a port via GOG, but it’s quite old and uncertain due to its Windows-centric design. My biggest concern is games such as Fallout New Vegas—published by Bethesda and developed by Obsodian. Bethesda seems committed only to Windows platforms, and even Fallout 3 isn’t supported because it’s considered outdated.

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