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LevelOneTechs identified a problem with the Ryzen 9000-Series Performance.

LevelOneTechs identified a problem with the Ryzen 9000-Series Performance.

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Texas1047
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06-04-2022, 05:50 PM
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I'm not making a direct comparison between all-core and single-core frequencies. Let me explain it more clearly. The main concern is the frequency gap between these two settings. The 7700X all-core runs around 5.1GHz, while the single-core sits between 5.5-5.55GHz, which means a difference of roughly 400 MHz. In contrast, the 9700X offers a 4.6GHz all-core frequency versus a 5.6GHz single-core, giving a 1000MHz or 1GHz gap. Single-core can reach much higher frequencies because it isn't constrained by power limits, whereas all-core is restricted by power consumption. This significant difference highlights the issue. The rumors about increasing TDP are just speculation, but it makes sense that AMD would consider this if they wanted better performance. I didn’t say it was certain, but I’m sure it’s something they’re working on. “True Performance” suggests these problems have been fixed through BIOS updates or other fixes, allowing the Ryzen 9000 to run at its full potential without limitations. It doesn’t require being a Linux user; Linux might just be revealing what the hardware could achieve if issues were removed. It’s strange that you’d think this would only matter to Linux users, but it seems like a common concern in tech discussions.
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Texas1047
06-04-2022, 05:50 PM #1

I'm not making a direct comparison between all-core and single-core frequencies. Let me explain it more clearly. The main concern is the frequency gap between these two settings. The 7700X all-core runs around 5.1GHz, while the single-core sits between 5.5-5.55GHz, which means a difference of roughly 400 MHz. In contrast, the 9700X offers a 4.6GHz all-core frequency versus a 5.6GHz single-core, giving a 1000MHz or 1GHz gap. Single-core can reach much higher frequencies because it isn't constrained by power limits, whereas all-core is restricted by power consumption. This significant difference highlights the issue. The rumors about increasing TDP are just speculation, but it makes sense that AMD would consider this if they wanted better performance. I didn’t say it was certain, but I’m sure it’s something they’re working on. “True Performance” suggests these problems have been fixed through BIOS updates or other fixes, allowing the Ryzen 9000 to run at its full potential without limitations. It doesn’t require being a Linux user; Linux might just be revealing what the hardware could achieve if issues were removed. It’s strange that you’d think this would only matter to Linux users, but it seems like a common concern in tech discussions.

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Nivatakunta
Junior Member
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06-05-2022, 01:44 AM
#2
I don’t take assumptions for granted. That often causes misunderstandings and arguments online. That’s why I need clear explanations. It helps keep conversations respectful. No ambiguity here.
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Nivatakunta
06-05-2022, 01:44 AM #2

I don’t take assumptions for granted. That often causes misunderstandings and arguments online. That’s why I need clear explanations. It helps keep conversations respectful. No ambiguity here.

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Ella_Plays_YT
Junior Member
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06-05-2022, 06:09 AM
#3
Indeed, the discussion revolved around comparing all-core frequencies with single-core ones. You anticipated CPUs delivering advertised single-core performance when running all-core tasks, which led to some confusion. I was aiming to clarify your point, and that’s what you were trying to understand—so... it’s okay if it didn’t come through perfectly.
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Ella_Plays_YT
06-05-2022, 06:09 AM #3

Indeed, the discussion revolved around comparing all-core frequencies with single-core ones. You anticipated CPUs delivering advertised single-core performance when running all-core tasks, which led to some confusion. I was aiming to clarify your point, and that’s what you were trying to understand—so... it’s okay if it didn’t come through perfectly.

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NastyBastrd
Member
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06-05-2022, 07:24 AM
#4
The situation just became more complicated. Another problem with the Ryzen 9000 performance has been found. The fix isn’t bringing it up to its full potential yet, but it’s a beginning. This issue feels unusual—some games boost only the Ryzen 9000 while leaving the Ryzen 7000 unchanged. It seems random and inconsistent. It suggests these problems with the Ryzen 9000 might be even more puzzling than the current one. Oh no... AMD has a lot of work ahead.
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NastyBastrd
06-05-2022, 07:24 AM #4

The situation just became more complicated. Another problem with the Ryzen 9000 performance has been found. The fix isn’t bringing it up to its full potential yet, but it’s a beginning. This issue feels unusual—some games boost only the Ryzen 9000 while leaving the Ryzen 7000 unchanged. It seems random and inconsistent. It suggests these problems with the Ryzen 9000 might be even more puzzling than the current one. Oh no... AMD has a lot of work ahead.

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999GOT666
Member
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06-27-2022, 12:23 AM
#5
The issue also impacts Ryzen 7000 models. It primarily affects tasks with light threading, such as gaming. A significant improvement of 1% is seen in the Ryzen 9000 lineup, meaning it doesn't make the 9000 better for gaming compared to other settings. You shouldn't run Windows Administrator daily, just as you shouldn't repeatedly log into root on Linux—this isn't a standalone solution. Microsoft would need to issue an update to resolve this, but they might not release one.
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999GOT666
06-27-2022, 12:23 AM #5

The issue also impacts Ryzen 7000 models. It primarily affects tasks with light threading, such as gaming. A significant improvement of 1% is seen in the Ryzen 9000 lineup, meaning it doesn't make the 9000 better for gaming compared to other settings. You shouldn't run Windows Administrator daily, just as you shouldn't repeatedly log into root on Linux—this isn't a standalone solution. Microsoft would need to issue an update to resolve this, but they might not release one.

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dirt_the_robot
Junior Member
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06-27-2022, 01:19 AM
#6
Absolutely, I mentioned it too influences the Ryzen 7000. Did you even look before you replied? Also, other performance concerns exist for the Ryzen 9000. Could these additional problems also impact the Ryzen 7000? Maybe. But with this particular admin bug, certain titles give the Ryzen 9000 a noticeable edge—up to 10% in gaming speed. This aligns more with the IPC gains confirmed in single-thread tests, though the actual improvement didn’t appear in gameplay. Who knows what happens if we address more performance issues? Could adding five more improvements boost the gap further? Even if each only raises the score by a small percentage, it still translates to a noticeable 5% advantage. Plus, there are ongoing issues with the Ryzen 9000 using full-speed RAM and faulty drivers; resolving these would likely widen the gap compared to the previous generation, which lacks these problems.
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dirt_the_robot
06-27-2022, 01:19 AM #6

Absolutely, I mentioned it too influences the Ryzen 7000. Did you even look before you replied? Also, other performance concerns exist for the Ryzen 9000. Could these additional problems also impact the Ryzen 7000? Maybe. But with this particular admin bug, certain titles give the Ryzen 9000 a noticeable edge—up to 10% in gaming speed. This aligns more with the IPC gains confirmed in single-thread tests, though the actual improvement didn’t appear in gameplay. Who knows what happens if we address more performance issues? Could adding five more improvements boost the gap further? Even if each only raises the score by a small percentage, it still translates to a noticeable 5% advantage. Plus, there are ongoing issues with the Ryzen 9000 using full-speed RAM and faulty drivers; resolving these would likely widen the gap compared to the previous generation, which lacks these problems.

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0sdG4m3r_YT
Member
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07-03-2022, 07:22 AM
#7
I revised your message. The original didn’t mention anything about the Ryzen 7000.
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0sdG4m3r_YT
07-03-2022, 07:22 AM #7

I revised your message. The original didn’t mention anything about the Ryzen 7000.

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07-03-2022, 07:30 AM
#8
And it seems LevelOneTechs has conducted some testing on Linux. It definitely improves performance significantly for the Ryzen 9000, offering a 10-20% boost compared to the Ryzen 7000. This indicates a solid generational improvement for the Ryzen 9000 on Linux. Whether upgrading from the Ryzen 7000 is worthwhile isn't clear yet. However, if you're starting with the Ryzen 5000, the gains become more appealing. Keep in mind, there are still other performance concerns to address with this release. This launch does come with a lot of bugs, quirks, and unexpected behavior—truly impressive but not perfect.
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IninhaGamer_BR
07-03-2022, 07:30 AM #8

And it seems LevelOneTechs has conducted some testing on Linux. It definitely improves performance significantly for the Ryzen 9000, offering a 10-20% boost compared to the Ryzen 7000. This indicates a solid generational improvement for the Ryzen 9000 on Linux. Whether upgrading from the Ryzen 7000 is worthwhile isn't clear yet. However, if you're starting with the Ryzen 5000, the gains become more appealing. Keep in mind, there are still other performance concerns to address with this release. This launch does come with a lot of bugs, quirks, and unexpected behavior—truly impressive but not perfect.

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LilStege
Member
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07-09-2022, 11:00 AM
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That's because I overlooked something, not out of malice. I assumed certain details were necessary, but I realized they weren't essential. I already understood the situation after watching the whole video before sharing. While you were typing your comment, I was already working on editing it, as a toast notification reminded me there was a new reply in the middle. EDIT: The "Average" improvements suggested by reviewers aren't very meaningful. In fact, in some games the improvement jumped to nearly 10% over the Ryzen 7000, and those bigger gaps will keep showing up more often as more bugs get fixed. The only explanation for the overall "average" change being just 1% is that still exist games with clear problems—some even running slower on Ryzen 9000 than Ryzen 7000, which shouldn't happen given the IPC gains and similar single-core speeds. In the worst scenarios, Ryzen 9000 should at least keep up or only slightly outperform Ryzen 7000, not fall behind. So it probably points to more unresolved issues.
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LilStege
07-09-2022, 11:00 AM #9

That's because I overlooked something, not out of malice. I assumed certain details were necessary, but I realized they weren't essential. I already understood the situation after watching the whole video before sharing. While you were typing your comment, I was already working on editing it, as a toast notification reminded me there was a new reply in the middle. EDIT: The "Average" improvements suggested by reviewers aren't very meaningful. In fact, in some games the improvement jumped to nearly 10% over the Ryzen 7000, and those bigger gaps will keep showing up more often as more bugs get fixed. The only explanation for the overall "average" change being just 1% is that still exist games with clear problems—some even running slower on Ryzen 9000 than Ryzen 7000, which shouldn't happen given the IPC gains and similar single-core speeds. In the worst scenarios, Ryzen 9000 should at least keep up or only slightly outperform Ryzen 7000, not fall behind. So it probably points to more unresolved issues.

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livtheviking
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07-11-2022, 07:06 AM
#10
Well, my doubts were proven right. It's disappointing, but I'll definitely include this in the original report.
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livtheviking
07-11-2022, 07:06 AM #10

Well, my doubts were proven right. It's disappointing, but I'll definitely include this in the original report.

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