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Key Ram schedules and timing details that significantly affect performance

Key Ram schedules and timing details that significantly affect performance

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Oxidian_LP
Member
205
12-29-2016, 12:41 AM
#1
I’m already getting most of the frequency your RAM can handle, but now it’s about fine-tuning timings for better speed—not just raw speed. As someone new to timing optimization, I should concentrate on the main primaries first and then work on the finer details. For performance, I need to understand how these timing changes affect the clock speeds and how they change with voltage. I’m also unsure about the exact behavior of timing at different voltages and how scaling works. My DDR2 Extreme Dark 1066 can already run at 1520 MHz at 2.34V, which is decent for its voltage. If we push it higher to around 2.44V (the max allowed by the board), I might get more performance by increasing the voltage a bit and tightening the timing. My DDR3 Samsung Rev F stick could also benefit, but since the voltage is already near its limit, I might need to reduce the primaries. As a note, my cooling system is working well with a fan, and adding aluminum foil as a heat spreader seems effective—temperatures drop by 5-10°C. This should help if I adjust timing properly.
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Oxidian_LP
12-29-2016, 12:41 AM #1

I’m already getting most of the frequency your RAM can handle, but now it’s about fine-tuning timings for better speed—not just raw speed. As someone new to timing optimization, I should concentrate on the main primaries first and then work on the finer details. For performance, I need to understand how these timing changes affect the clock speeds and how they change with voltage. I’m also unsure about the exact behavior of timing at different voltages and how scaling works. My DDR2 Extreme Dark 1066 can already run at 1520 MHz at 2.34V, which is decent for its voltage. If we push it higher to around 2.44V (the max allowed by the board), I might get more performance by increasing the voltage a bit and tightening the timing. My DDR3 Samsung Rev F stick could also benefit, but since the voltage is already near its limit, I might need to reduce the primaries. As a note, my cooling system is working well with a fan, and adding aluminum foil as a heat spreader seems effective—temperatures drop by 5-10°C. This should help if I adjust timing properly.

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MessiasCraft
Member
153
01-18-2017, 08:32 PM
#2
You’d enjoy it in overclocker communities like Buildzoid. Find the smart folks who constantly experiment. Head to places where expertise thrives. Look for details so you save time—check out Luumi or Buildzoid on YouTube then find their Discords. Also explore other well-known overclocker channels.
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MessiasCraft
01-18-2017, 08:32 PM #2

You’d enjoy it in overclocker communities like Buildzoid. Find the smart folks who constantly experiment. Head to places where expertise thrives. Look for details so you save time—check out Luumi or Buildzoid on YouTube then find their Discords. Also explore other well-known overclocker channels.

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Klyner
Member
184
01-25-2017, 01:05 PM
#3
Maybe I should check some BZ RAM OC videos to find the best settings for performance. Most other guides I’ve seen aren’t created by serious overclockers—they’re just beginner-friendly tips. I’m sure I’m well beyond those basic tutorials, especially since I’m already pushing my DDR3 stick to 2.44V on an ASUS board, which keeps the hardware safe even with jumpers enabled. If I try higher voltages, things might stop working. I just can’t go any further without risking damage.
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Klyner
01-25-2017, 01:05 PM #3

Maybe I should check some BZ RAM OC videos to find the best settings for performance. Most other guides I’ve seen aren’t created by serious overclockers—they’re just beginner-friendly tips. I’m sure I’m well beyond those basic tutorials, especially since I’m already pushing my DDR3 stick to 2.44V on an ASUS board, which keeps the hardware safe even with jumpers enabled. If I try higher voltages, things might stop working. I just can’t go any further without risking damage.

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DangoBravo
Posting Freak
821
01-27-2017, 03:27 AM
#4
I've reviewed the DDR4 documentation on GitHub, and it's pretty straightforward. I used to be a big fan of DDR3 too, but once you notice the patterns in overclocking results, it becomes much clearer. I spent time gathering lots of examples to spot trends in BDIE settings. I purchased four 8GB kits at 3200C14 (B.Die) with 1.35V power supplies. My current configuration is around 1.5V, and I’ve been tweaking it for a while now. I watched some BZ videos about six months ago—those long clips packed useful insights that took time to absorb. Luumi is another helpful resource. Placing an 80mm Noctua fan right over the RAM could also help a lot.

This setup runs as a stable game, and I’ve managed 4400MHz C171818 with decent sub-ratings. My sweet spot seems to be between 4200 and 4266 MHz across all four sticks. Since it’s a dual-rank chip, I didn’t push too hard for higher speeds just to beat leaderboards. Game stability worked well enough for me, especially in games like Old Warzone Call of Duty where performance dropped under heavy CPU load.

Some stats might be lower, but during the summer testing in Australia, I usually ran things at extreme temps, so my results could differ. TRFI 65K can heat things up, so I keep it around 60K to stay cool. TRFC above 320 is a good range for me, though sometimes lower frequencies helped in certain titles.

RTL/IO settings are tricky—I adjusted them manually but didn’t see big changes unless I changed the board values. The guides on GitHub give a general direction, but you’ll need to test each setting yourself.

Stress testing is still essential, even if you think you’ve got it covered. Some videos show impressive clock speeds, but real-world gains depend on your specific hardware and conditions.
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DangoBravo
01-27-2017, 03:27 AM #4

I've reviewed the DDR4 documentation on GitHub, and it's pretty straightforward. I used to be a big fan of DDR3 too, but once you notice the patterns in overclocking results, it becomes much clearer. I spent time gathering lots of examples to spot trends in BDIE settings. I purchased four 8GB kits at 3200C14 (B.Die) with 1.35V power supplies. My current configuration is around 1.5V, and I’ve been tweaking it for a while now. I watched some BZ videos about six months ago—those long clips packed useful insights that took time to absorb. Luumi is another helpful resource. Placing an 80mm Noctua fan right over the RAM could also help a lot.

This setup runs as a stable game, and I’ve managed 4400MHz C171818 with decent sub-ratings. My sweet spot seems to be between 4200 and 4266 MHz across all four sticks. Since it’s a dual-rank chip, I didn’t push too hard for higher speeds just to beat leaderboards. Game stability worked well enough for me, especially in games like Old Warzone Call of Duty where performance dropped under heavy CPU load.

Some stats might be lower, but during the summer testing in Australia, I usually ran things at extreme temps, so my results could differ. TRFI 65K can heat things up, so I keep it around 60K to stay cool. TRFC above 320 is a good range for me, though sometimes lower frequencies helped in certain titles.

RTL/IO settings are tricky—I adjusted them manually but didn’t see big changes unless I changed the board values. The guides on GitHub give a general direction, but you’ll need to test each setting yourself.

Stress testing is still essential, even if you think you’ve got it covered. Some videos show impressive clock speeds, but real-world gains depend on your specific hardware and conditions.

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xSkylerr
Member
177
01-27-2017, 04:07 AM
#5
The manual works well overall, covering most essential tips for beginners. From what I see, higher voltages are generally better since I’ve noticed ram issues with lower voltages. The IMC tends to be the main concern, but it seems this updated revision hasn’t shown any problems despite stress tests. I’m impressed that the chip is holding up even at 2.44V for extended periods—still running smoothly on Prime95. The voltage difference between VDDR and DDR3 is now minimal, which is interesting. I’m surprised the generic 1Gb rev sticks are managing this well; I might look into better options like Elpida, PSC, or Samsung ICS for DDR3, or even a micron stick since 2.46V seems safe. For my older DDR2 units, I could try a 1x4 micron DIMM if it’s still reliable. The 1.5V setting isn’t too risky, but I might go higher if cooling allows. The guide even mentions some ICS that can handle daily use at 1.6V with proper cooling—though I’m tempted to push it a bit higher for testing. Running through these voltages could help me find the best setup.
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xSkylerr
01-27-2017, 04:07 AM #5

The manual works well overall, covering most essential tips for beginners. From what I see, higher voltages are generally better since I’ve noticed ram issues with lower voltages. The IMC tends to be the main concern, but it seems this updated revision hasn’t shown any problems despite stress tests. I’m impressed that the chip is holding up even at 2.44V for extended periods—still running smoothly on Prime95. The voltage difference between VDDR and DDR3 is now minimal, which is interesting. I’m surprised the generic 1Gb rev sticks are managing this well; I might look into better options like Elpida, PSC, or Samsung ICS for DDR3, or even a micron stick since 2.46V seems safe. For my older DDR2 units, I could try a 1x4 micron DIMM if it’s still reliable. The 1.5V setting isn’t too risky, but I might go higher if cooling allows. The guide even mentions some ICS that can handle daily use at 1.6V with proper cooling—though I’m tempted to push it a bit higher for testing. Running through these voltages could help me find the best setup.

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UnFunnyFilms
Member
57
02-01-2017, 02:13 PM
#6
Yeah 1.5v is pretty conservative... I might tweak VCCSA / VDimm and try higher frequencies or tighter timings once more, but with four sticks instead of two... it's a bit more sensitive to IMC. Since I'm not too motivated, after hitting 4400 in Winter and 4200 in Summer, I stopped pushing for more. If I increase VCCSA and use VDimm at 1.6v, I could probably run a daily 4400 with Nice Secondaries plus a RamFan, but I’d likely have to go back to 4200Cl16 (Tuned) in Australian Summer. Even with the fan, my 4266 CL15 had to drop to CL16, and on a hotter day it felt unstable so I went back down. After stress-testing and game testing, I just got lazy again. I’m basically stuck in a second-tier property at the back of a primary house—my climate and location are the main hurdles, not anything else. I don’t mind people chasing Extra V’s, but any improvement counts. Wishing you good luck with your project!
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UnFunnyFilms
02-01-2017, 02:13 PM #6

Yeah 1.5v is pretty conservative... I might tweak VCCSA / VDimm and try higher frequencies or tighter timings once more, but with four sticks instead of two... it's a bit more sensitive to IMC. Since I'm not too motivated, after hitting 4400 in Winter and 4200 in Summer, I stopped pushing for more. If I increase VCCSA and use VDimm at 1.6v, I could probably run a daily 4400 with Nice Secondaries plus a RamFan, but I’d likely have to go back to 4200Cl16 (Tuned) in Australian Summer. Even with the fan, my 4266 CL15 had to drop to CL16, and on a hotter day it felt unstable so I went back down. After stress-testing and game testing, I just got lazy again. I’m basically stuck in a second-tier property at the back of a primary house—my climate and location are the main hurdles, not anything else. I don’t mind people chasing Extra V’s, but any improvement counts. Wishing you good luck with your project!

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Austiee_
Junior Member
14
02-02-2017, 06:28 PM
#7
Weather definitely plays a big role here, especially in India where temperatures can spike. I’m thinking about getting a tech RAM cooler just for the sake of it, but it’ll take some time before I build one. Maybe I can use aftermarket heat spreaders or those removable old ones as a starting point for how to mount them. However, I’ll have to worry about moisture—my packing foam helps a bit, but if I can’t use thick foam it seeps in. I do have some foam, and it keeps things dry enough, though room temperature isn’t ideal. Tech mounting is tricky too; I’d need an AIO block and a custom loop, which is something I’m planning to develop now. Right now I’ll stick with the stock heat spreaders or DIY aluminum foil solutions that look like those old “heatspreaders” from the 90s paired with fans. I usually don’t push voltages this high, and since it’s a low-power chip, it shouldn’t get too hot. The folding design is coming soon—June 6 to June 12. That gives me a chance to upgrade my RAM and CPU then. I’m planning to test high-voltage operation on the RAM for extended periods, which seems like a good shot at getting Deathzone Volts running. If I end up selling my board and CPU and just buy used Ryzen, I’ll keep testing them daily since X58 CPUs are affordable and DDR3 is cheap. I’ve also noticed that running these high voltages often causes random crashes or D9 errors, which seems to happen a lot with high-frequency setups.
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Austiee_
02-02-2017, 06:28 PM #7

Weather definitely plays a big role here, especially in India where temperatures can spike. I’m thinking about getting a tech RAM cooler just for the sake of it, but it’ll take some time before I build one. Maybe I can use aftermarket heat spreaders or those removable old ones as a starting point for how to mount them. However, I’ll have to worry about moisture—my packing foam helps a bit, but if I can’t use thick foam it seeps in. I do have some foam, and it keeps things dry enough, though room temperature isn’t ideal. Tech mounting is tricky too; I’d need an AIO block and a custom loop, which is something I’m planning to develop now. Right now I’ll stick with the stock heat spreaders or DIY aluminum foil solutions that look like those old “heatspreaders” from the 90s paired with fans. I usually don’t push voltages this high, and since it’s a low-power chip, it shouldn’t get too hot. The folding design is coming soon—June 6 to June 12. That gives me a chance to upgrade my RAM and CPU then. I’m planning to test high-voltage operation on the RAM for extended periods, which seems like a good shot at getting Deathzone Volts running. If I end up selling my board and CPU and just buy used Ryzen, I’ll keep testing them daily since X58 CPUs are affordable and DDR3 is cheap. I’ve also noticed that running these high voltages often causes random crashes or D9 errors, which seems to happen a lot with high-frequency setups.

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CocaCola15
Senior Member
603
02-02-2017, 07:32 PM
#8
For removable heatspreaders and similar topics, YT "LUUMI" is a great Overclocking reference.
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CocaCola15
02-02-2017, 07:32 PM #8

For removable heatspreaders and similar topics, YT "LUUMI" is a great Overclocking reference.