It seems you're stuck with the same setup forever.
It seems you're stuck with the same setup forever.
Intel hasn't seen IPC enhancements since Skylake (6th generation), with all subsequent CPU releases essentially returning to that design. Prior to that, they achieved IPC improvements roughly every two years. The 990X continues using the Nehalem architecture introduced more than ten years ago.
Valid point. For me. Id rather spend the money on a good motherboard and CPU than be cheap but if the CPU is cheaper, then I'd still like to spend on the motherboard. The comparison you put there... is interesting (10980XE vs 3950X). Of course, in any direction you chose for Intel, the power and heat is not going to be any better
AMD isn't my type – I don't like either brand. I pointed out my signature, honestly. While AMD let Intel lower their pricing on some CPUs, they still seem to maintain a premium image and charge a fair price. From your earlier discussion, if you care about bandwidth, consider PCIe 4.0 – it’s exclusive to AMD or coming soon to Intel (hopefully). Otherwise, people might stop buying these products. The nm rating isn’t universal; each company sets its own standards. It’s like comparing ships – one says it uses 14cm planks, another claims 10in. Intel hasn’t pushed anything compelling yet.
For now, Intel doesn’t have a strong edge in HEDT performance, though they do offer more lanes. PCIe 4.0 is the only real advantage AMD has. If you run specific workloads like AVX 512, TR can handle more lanes, and PCIe 4.0 chips are better.
I’m not a big fan of AMD’s stock settings either. They seem to push chips to very high temperatures and voltages out of the box, which feels risky. It’s not safe, even if they claim otherwise.
On the other side, Radeon’s 5700XT line had issues – many units failed quickly due to poor cooling and aggressive clock speeds. It raises questions about their quality control. Some components are built for server racks with multiple fans, so keep that in mind.
I just put together a standard high-end AMD workstation setup for you to see the overall cost. You can adjust storage options as needed, and I chose 64GB of RAM for a larger capacity. If you prefer, you can reduce it to 32GB using the available free slots later. You also have flexibility to downgrade the CPU without major problems, and as long as you don<|pad|>'s recommended overclocking, the VRMs on the motherboard should handle it.
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core ($709.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM ($85.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME ($100.37 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP 650 W (80+ Gold Certified, fully modular) ($105.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1442.07 (includes shipping, taxes, and available discounts)
Created by PCPartPicker on 2020-08-28 02:05 EDT-0400
You're looking for a solid 128GB RAM setup, avoiding overclocking and opting for a bigger power supply. That's a great approach!
The 128GB setup fits perfectly with my design, just need two 64GB units. In terms of power consumption, 650W works fine, though I’m open to more headroom if needed. This was just a preliminary outline of the project.
brand loyalty doesn't make sense; they aren't your allies—they'll betray you if they ever get the chance after trying AMD for the first time following my upgrade. When I attempt any tweaks, strange issues arise (such as RAM speed not applying or voltages failing). It's really frustrating. Overall, once things run smoothly, I don't see any problems from a stability standpoint. Others might have different experiences. If you're just switching because RAM was insufficient and your first-gen 6-core CPU works fine, I think modern options can meet your needs. It's unclear if HEDT is necessary for consumer chips with 4 dimensions, but you're looking at around 8 ranks per channel (unless 16GB per rank dimms are available). 4 ranks per dimmer, which applies mainly to some Z390 mITX boards. Keep in mind they might not support x16 speeds—can you run 128GB on 4 dimmers?
checked the x570 TUF motherboard QVL and noticed an 8x16, 8 dimms setup. On a 4-slot board, there weren’t any 4x32GB slots. Using find, I searched for 128 and found seven results—two of them were just the model number with 128GB. Unless I missed something here.