F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop It becomes outdated after approximately 2 years of regular use.

It becomes outdated after approximately 2 years of regular use.

It becomes outdated after approximately 2 years of regular use.

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Alan4041
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06-12-2017, 01:44 PM
#11
It's unusual, isn't it? Typically a PC lasts a few years before major upgrades become necessary to keep it top-notch. I haven't changed my CPU since January 2014... It seems like it might fail soon, though that might not be accurate... I'm feeling the same way. I don't see a clear reason to update right now...
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Alan4041
06-12-2017, 01:44 PM #11

It's unusual, isn't it? Typically a PC lasts a few years before major upgrades become necessary to keep it top-notch. I haven't changed my CPU since January 2014... It seems like it might fail soon, though that might not be accurate... I'm feeling the same way. I don't see a clear reason to update right now...

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teddybear116
Member
232
06-13-2017, 09:40 AM
#12
I don't upgrade just because it's necessary; you can explore my recent log here. I didn't really need to upgrade the i7 6700 + TITAN X Maxwell since it worked fine for my needs. However, I had the time and chance, so why not? I did it mainly for fun and to use the money I saved. That's part of being a hobbyist and excited about it. Some people invest in cars, bikes, guns, etc., but we focus on desktop computers instead.
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teddybear116
06-13-2017, 09:40 AM #12

I don't upgrade just because it's necessary; you can explore my recent log here. I didn't really need to upgrade the i7 6700 + TITAN X Maxwell since it worked fine for my needs. However, I had the time and chance, so why not? I did it mainly for fun and to use the money I saved. That's part of being a hobbyist and excited about it. Some people invest in cars, bikes, guns, etc., but we focus on desktop computers instead.

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FaDs
Member
177
06-13-2017, 12:53 PM
#13
You'd want to start with the 7900X for the lowest price. Going lower wouldn't help much. It provides enough space for GPUs and M.2 cards, plus the flexibility to choose top cores and further upgrade them.
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FaDs
06-13-2017, 12:53 PM #13

You'd want to start with the 7900X for the lowest price. Going lower wouldn't help much. It provides enough space for GPUs and M.2 cards, plus the flexibility to choose top cores and further upgrade them.

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ChickenRekz
Junior Member
49
06-13-2017, 03:05 PM
#14
The 7900X seems like an unnecessary expense for a gaming PC... Yet I understand from a hardware standpoint... I haven’t felt ready to invest that much in a CPU.
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ChickenRekz
06-13-2017, 03:05 PM #14

The 7900X seems like an unnecessary expense for a gaming PC... Yet I understand from a hardware standpoint... I haven’t felt ready to invest that much in a CPU.

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ellarem
Member
127
06-18-2017, 07:34 PM
#15
Threadripper and EPYC share similarities but have distinct tuning needs, especially for overclocking. AMD consistently offers ECC support on servers and many of their mainstream CPUs, though the Ryzen 8 series is more widely available. The 6-core Haswell platform stands out as a more advanced option, while pricing reflects its higher performance focus.
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ellarem
06-18-2017, 07:34 PM #15

Threadripper and EPYC share similarities but have distinct tuning needs, especially for overclocking. AMD consistently offers ECC support on servers and many of their mainstream CPUs, though the Ryzen 8 series is more widely available. The 6-core Haswell platform stands out as a more advanced option, while pricing reflects its higher performance focus.

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PogiStyle
Junior Member
15
06-19-2017, 03:17 AM
#16
I have reservations about TR4 and Ryzen for gaming, particularly after my 4930k. I believe using SMP/HT might be better with an 8-core CPU or more, since my tests showed some games prefer a single high clock over HT. The issue arose when running two 1080 processors—performance would drop in certain titles without HT. My average and low FPS improved in some games, but others gave me a very choppy experience. It seems 4 cores work well for one GPU, but adding more cores from SLI or CrossfireX really helps.
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PogiStyle
06-19-2017, 03:17 AM #16

I have reservations about TR4 and Ryzen for gaming, particularly after my 4930k. I believe using SMP/HT might be better with an 8-core CPU or more, since my tests showed some games prefer a single high clock over HT. The issue arose when running two 1080 processors—performance would drop in certain titles without HT. My average and low FPS improved in some games, but others gave me a very choppy experience. It seems 4 cores work well for one GPU, but adding more cores from SLI or CrossfireX really helps.

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lemur68
Junior Member
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06-19-2017, 11:10 AM
#17
I was responding to someone who claimed they were. Whether or not they match, they both outperform Intel, particularly because they offer more PCIe lanes and avoid the same security issues Intel faces.
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lemur68
06-19-2017, 11:10 AM #17

I was responding to someone who claimed they were. Whether or not they match, they both outperform Intel, particularly because they offer more PCIe lanes and avoid the same security issues Intel faces.

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Sussu
Senior Member
708
06-19-2017, 11:26 AM
#18
Typically, games prioritize high CPU frequency over additional cores. For optimal gaming performance, a mainstream i7-8700K on the Z370 platform works best. With only two GPUs, 16 PCI-E 3.0 lanes are enough. The i7-8700K keeps your six-core, twelve-thread design, offering better IPC, stronger IMC, and higher achievable CPU speeds. Scaling up cores or threads usually leads to lower frequencies (e.g., on the X299 platform). The significant improvement in IPC between the 4th and 7th generation has been modest, likely due to AMD not challenging Intel until recently with Ryzen and Threadripper.
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Sussu
06-19-2017, 11:26 AM #18

Typically, games prioritize high CPU frequency over additional cores. For optimal gaming performance, a mainstream i7-8700K on the Z370 platform works best. With only two GPUs, 16 PCI-E 3.0 lanes are enough. The i7-8700K keeps your six-core, twelve-thread design, offering better IPC, stronger IMC, and higher achievable CPU speeds. Scaling up cores or threads usually leads to lower frequencies (e.g., on the X299 platform). The significant improvement in IPC between the 4th and 7th generation has been modest, likely due to AMD not challenging Intel until recently with Ryzen and Threadripper.

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MicMineHD
Member
206
06-25-2017, 12:39 PM
#19
Ice lake offers 8c/16t options and performs well with a binned chip. Upgrading the 4930k seems sensible, especially since its age is a key concern. Personally, I prefer avoiding the risk of a build failing due to age before an upgrade. The 4930k will be around six years old when Ice Lake launches.
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MicMineHD
06-25-2017, 12:39 PM #19

Ice lake offers 8c/16t options and performs well with a binned chip. Upgrading the 4930k seems sensible, especially since its age is a key concern. Personally, I prefer avoiding the risk of a build failing due to age before an upgrade. The 4930k will be around six years old when Ice Lake launches.

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Mr_Floobiful
Posting Freak
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06-25-2017, 07:44 PM
#20
Then a 7nm process in the next phase
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Mr_Floobiful
06-25-2017, 07:44 PM #20

Then a 7nm process in the next phase

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