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Issues with 2nd Gen Ryzan RAM OC

Issues with 2nd Gen Ryzan RAM OC

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MuriloGuto
Junior Member
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04-12-2018, 11:08 AM
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I'm just starting out with overclocking and have been looking into it. From the videos and forum discussions I've read, I think I can successfully raise my RAM speed from the stock 2133 MHz to its rated 3600MHz. However, this hasn't worked for me yet. I've tried three different types of RAM without any connection to overclocking, and they all performed similarly. My system tends to go into safe mode or crash a lot if I try to push the memory beyond 2866 MHz. I'm fine with my 2700x CPU OC'd at 4.1GHz, which is stable with 2866MHz RAM at 1.35V. I've also tried running my RAM at 1.36V at 3600MHz without success. Should I try increasing the voltage of my RAM further, or is there something else going on here?

For reference:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6tpZQq
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MuriloGuto
04-12-2018, 11:08 AM #1

I'm just starting out with overclocking and have been looking into it. From the videos and forum discussions I've read, I think I can successfully raise my RAM speed from the stock 2133 MHz to its rated 3600MHz. However, this hasn't worked for me yet. I've tried three different types of RAM without any connection to overclocking, and they all performed similarly. My system tends to go into safe mode or crash a lot if I try to push the memory beyond 2866 MHz. I'm fine with my 2700x CPU OC'd at 4.1GHz, which is stable with 2866MHz RAM at 1.35V. I've also tried running my RAM at 1.36V at 3600MHz without success. Should I try increasing the voltage of my RAM further, or is there something else going on here?

For reference:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6tpZQq

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Kayoscape
Junior Member
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04-12-2018, 11:56 AM
#2
The 2700x model doesn't accommodate 3600mhz memory...the official maximum is 2933mhz...anything above that seems like a lucky guess. My 2700x would operate smoothly all day at 3200mhz with a case of 14 or 3400mhz, but anything over 3400 wasn't completely stable, especially with high-end Samsung B die RAM. The 3000 series Ryzen chips now have better memory controllers and should manage 3600mhz or higher.
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Kayoscape
04-12-2018, 11:56 AM #2

The 2700x model doesn't accommodate 3600mhz memory...the official maximum is 2933mhz...anything above that seems like a lucky guess. My 2700x would operate smoothly all day at 3200mhz with a case of 14 or 3400mhz, but anything over 3400 wasn't completely stable, especially with high-end Samsung B die RAM. The 3000 series Ryzen chips now have better memory controllers and should manage 3600mhz or higher.

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MeFlacks14
Junior Member
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04-23-2018, 01:31 PM
#3
Not accurate, it's constrained only by the BIOS and available memory. My 2700x at 3600MHz runs very smoothly, and I reached 4000MHz without any noticeable drop in performance.
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MeFlacks14
04-23-2018, 01:31 PM #3

Not accurate, it's constrained only by the BIOS and available memory. My 2700x at 3600MHz runs very smoothly, and I reached 4000MHz without any noticeable drop in performance.

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gonzilla03
Junior Member
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04-24-2018, 02:12 AM
#4
Did you set DOCP ?
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gonzilla03
04-24-2018, 02:12 AM #4

Did you set DOCP ?

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Papa_4ndy
Junior Member
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04-25-2018, 10:12 PM
#5
You've definitely won the silicone lottery! The memory controller is built into the chip, and the officially supported speed is 2933mhz. The best Samsung B die money I could get would barely reach 3600mhz... probably around 3400.
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Papa_4ndy
04-25-2018, 10:12 PM #5

You've definitely won the silicone lottery! The memory controller is built into the chip, and the officially supported speed is 2933mhz. The best Samsung B die money I could get would barely reach 3600mhz... probably around 3400.

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EnesAga
Member
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04-26-2018, 03:20 AM
#6
I should purchase genuine lottery numbers in the 1600x, 1700x, 2700x, and 3700x ranges, all on 2 MB drives, ensuring they function smoothly above the IMC limit.
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EnesAga
04-26-2018, 03:20 AM #6

I should purchase genuine lottery numbers in the 1600x, 1700x, 2700x, and 3700x ranges, all on 2 MB drives, ensuring they function smoothly above the IMC limit.

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bajingirl32
Member
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05-04-2018, 12:53 AM
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Maybe you should pick some genuine lotto tickets 🆒...the 1600 and 1700s were both infamous for poor memory OC performance...though that was mostly because of BIOS problems. I didn’t buy a first-gen Ryzen mainly because of those BIOS issues...I waited for the 2700x to launch and I was really pleased when it reached 3400MHz, even though 3200 at Cas14 was quicker than 3400 at 16 so I chose that version.
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bajingirl32
05-04-2018, 12:53 AM #7

Maybe you should pick some genuine lotto tickets 🆒...the 1600 and 1700s were both infamous for poor memory OC performance...though that was mostly because of BIOS problems. I didn’t buy a first-gen Ryzen mainly because of those BIOS issues...I waited for the 2700x to launch and I was really pleased when it reached 3400MHz, even though 3200 at Cas14 was quicker than 3400 at 16 so I chose that version.

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Waffley_1254
Member
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05-04-2018, 01:14 AM
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When planning to purchase a 3200MHz clock speed for the Ryzen 3 2200G, you should consider whether it will work in DOCP mode.
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Waffley_1254
05-04-2018, 01:14 AM #8

When planning to purchase a 3200MHz clock speed for the Ryzen 3 2200G, you should consider whether it will work in DOCP mode.

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RockerMorton
Member
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05-11-2018, 07:00 PM
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It's all about BIOS, AGESA and the terrain for memory on the MB. Early 300 series MBs had varying or incorrect terrain and faced issues with RAM speeds above 2933/3200MHz, which exceeded the claimed IMC limit. Of course, Samsung eventually managed to exceed 3200MHz, but it was achievable through manual RAM OC adjustments.
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RockerMorton
05-11-2018, 07:00 PM #9

It's all about BIOS, AGESA and the terrain for memory on the MB. Early 300 series MBs had varying or incorrect terrain and faced issues with RAM speeds above 2933/3200MHz, which exceeded the claimed IMC limit. Of course, Samsung eventually managed to exceed 3200MHz, but it was achievable through manual RAM OC adjustments.

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7521THUNDER
Junior Member
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05-13-2018, 08:44 AM
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Before I upgraded my CPU to the 3600x, I was using a 2600x and g.skill Trident Z Royal Gold 2x8 CL16 3600 with 16 MHz clock speed at 1.45v.
With a DOCP 3600 running at 3600 MHz, I had a proc speed of 60, RTT was off, dynamic RTT was off, and the 4 cad buses were set to auto.
This setup was on an Asus Rog Strix X470 F gaming BIOS version 5406, featuring a 4.1GHz OC.
The 2000 series BIOS performed much better for RAM compared to the 3000 series when paired with a 2000 series CPU.
Now I'm using the latest BIOS 5220 for my Rog and 3600x, optimized for 16 MHz at 1.35v running at 3733 MHz with a clock speed of 1866.
I set the proc speed to 15, 15, 15, 15, 30, 45 at 1.35v and hope it improves things!
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7521THUNDER
05-13-2018, 08:44 AM #10

Before I upgraded my CPU to the 3600x, I was using a 2600x and g.skill Trident Z Royal Gold 2x8 CL16 3600 with 16 MHz clock speed at 1.45v.
With a DOCP 3600 running at 3600 MHz, I had a proc speed of 60, RTT was off, dynamic RTT was off, and the 4 cad buses were set to auto.
This setup was on an Asus Rog Strix X470 F gaming BIOS version 5406, featuring a 4.1GHz OC.
The 2000 series BIOS performed much better for RAM compared to the 3000 series when paired with a 2000 series CPU.
Now I'm using the latest BIOS 5220 for my Rog and 3600x, optimized for 16 MHz at 1.35v running at 3733 MHz with a clock speed of 1866.
I set the proc speed to 15, 15, 15, 15, 30, 45 at 1.35v and hope it improves things!