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Issue with RAM maintaining required performance levels

Issue with RAM maintaining required performance levels

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RxM17
Junior Member
15
12-24-2016, 12:44 AM
#1
Hey there! I’m just getting started on this forum, but I’ve run into a problem with my PC. A while back I added another RAM stick to my desktop, making sure it matched the first one but not identical. Everything worked perfectly until a few months passed and my system began freezing intermittently—lasting anywhere from a few hours to over eight. At first I thought it was just a glitch, but after some research, it turned out to be RAM instability. I adjusted the timings down from the default 2133 to something lower, like 1866. I didn’t overclock it because my motherboard was H110, which doesn’t support that.

Then I upgraded to a newer stick (Z170) and tried increasing the voltage and speed, but nothing worked. No matter what voltage I used—from the stock 1.212V up to 1.35V—I still couldn’t get it to run faster. Even at 2000MHz and 1.35V, it would freeze. I also tried tweaking the timings without much luck.

I’m a bit puzzled—am I doing something wrong with the settings? Or is there a compatibility issue I’m missing? Maybe it’s an aging problem, or perhaps there’s a defect. I’ve been using this setup for about five years now, and I’m not sure what to do.

I’ve attached a photo of the RAM sticks from CPU-z. If anyone can help explain what’s going on or offer some ideas, it would really help me figure this out. Thanks in advance!

P.S. I know one of the sticks has XMP support and is rated higher than the other, but I was really on a tight budget five years ago. Second-hand cheap RAM from that era isn’t easy to find. Also, for the ASUS Z170-A model, the recommended slots are 2 and 4, not 1 and 3—no idea why.
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RxM17
12-24-2016, 12:44 AM #1

Hey there! I’m just getting started on this forum, but I’ve run into a problem with my PC. A while back I added another RAM stick to my desktop, making sure it matched the first one but not identical. Everything worked perfectly until a few months passed and my system began freezing intermittently—lasting anywhere from a few hours to over eight. At first I thought it was just a glitch, but after some research, it turned out to be RAM instability. I adjusted the timings down from the default 2133 to something lower, like 1866. I didn’t overclock it because my motherboard was H110, which doesn’t support that.

Then I upgraded to a newer stick (Z170) and tried increasing the voltage and speed, but nothing worked. No matter what voltage I used—from the stock 1.212V up to 1.35V—I still couldn’t get it to run faster. Even at 2000MHz and 1.35V, it would freeze. I also tried tweaking the timings without much luck.

I’m a bit puzzled—am I doing something wrong with the settings? Or is there a compatibility issue I’m missing? Maybe it’s an aging problem, or perhaps there’s a defect. I’ve been using this setup for about five years now, and I’m not sure what to do.

I’ve attached a photo of the RAM sticks from CPU-z. If anyone can help explain what’s going on or offer some ideas, it would really help me figure this out. Thanks in advance!

P.S. I know one of the sticks has XMP support and is rated higher than the other, but I was really on a tight budget five years ago. Second-hand cheap RAM from that era isn’t easy to find. Also, for the ASUS Z170-A model, the recommended slots are 2 and 4, not 1 and 3—no idea why.

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brobear7
Posting Freak
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12-28-2016, 05:59 PM
#2
It's a complete memory problem. The two sticks differ significantly—one has XMP and 2400MHz, the other only 1067MHz with no matching timings. It's not just this one issue; the mismatch affects overall performance. Choose the stick with the higher frequency (2400MHz) to ensure optimal results.
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brobear7
12-28-2016, 05:59 PM #2

It's a complete memory problem. The two sticks differ significantly—one has XMP and 2400MHz, the other only 1067MHz with no matching timings. It's not just this one issue; the mismatch affects overall performance. Choose the stick with the higher frequency (2400MHz) to ensure optimal results.

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Hermie12
Member
57
12-28-2016, 10:35 PM
#3
Consider restarting the BIOS to let it set the RAM speed automatically. It’s possible you overlooked or made a mistake in timing that’s too precise.
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Hermie12
12-28-2016, 10:35 PM #3

Consider restarting the BIOS to let it set the RAM speed automatically. It’s possible you overlooked or made a mistake in timing that’s too precise.

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thebjmax1
Senior Member
395
01-07-2017, 12:47 AM
#4
@ShrimpBrime Yeah, I completely get it, but I am tight on money even today, beggars can't exactly be choosers, I got whatever I could on the second hand market. But both are running (at the moment) at 1866MHz, much lower specs for both sticks. But I guess then sticks are sensitive to increasing the timings as well as decreasing them? @Craftyawesome The issue is the same across 2 mother boards, bios decided or not. Also, it cannot run at the stock bios decided settings, crashes after a few hours at 2133MHz. The timings are very loose, in one of the pictures you can see (I forgot to change them after I gave up on trying to get even 2133) Thank you for the fast replies! But I still don't fully get the "why" behind this. Maybe I could ask somewhere else?
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thebjmax1
01-07-2017, 12:47 AM #4

@ShrimpBrime Yeah, I completely get it, but I am tight on money even today, beggars can't exactly be choosers, I got whatever I could on the second hand market. But both are running (at the moment) at 1866MHz, much lower specs for both sticks. But I guess then sticks are sensitive to increasing the timings as well as decreasing them? @Craftyawesome The issue is the same across 2 mother boards, bios decided or not. Also, it cannot run at the stock bios decided settings, crashes after a few hours at 2133MHz. The timings are very loose, in one of the pictures you can see (I forgot to change them after I gave up on trying to get even 2133) Thank you for the fast replies! But I still don't fully get the "why" behind this. Maybe I could ask somewhere else?

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LooseDawg
Senior Member
628
01-07-2017, 02:15 AM
#5
Since every sub-timing has unique needs for each stick and they don’t get along, or due to a user buying mistake.
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LooseDawg
01-07-2017, 02:15 AM #5

Since every sub-timing has unique needs for each stick and they don’t get along, or due to a user buying mistake.

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Campbell8
Member
61
01-07-2017, 09:59 AM
#6
Oh no, they do exist too? That’s a big mistake! But seriously, thank you a lot! I’ll check it out—maybe my new board has a setting in the bios for it. I haven’t had time to explore it fully yet.
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Campbell8
01-07-2017, 09:59 AM #6

Oh no, they do exist too? That’s a big mistake! But seriously, thank you a lot! I’ll check it out—maybe my new board has a setting in the bios for it. I haven’t had time to explore it fully yet.

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redlantern2045
Junior Member
32
01-07-2017, 05:09 PM
#7
@ShrimpBrime YOU ARE A HERO!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I just looked in the bios and what do you know, there is a tab about secondary timings! But there is a metric butt-tone of them! Guess I know what I'll be doing over the weekend! Google also yields no results for secondary timings on neither stick (or even any info at all for the slower one XD ), guess I'll have to boot each ram separately, note down the timings and use the slower ones or even increase them. Again, thank you for the information, I really appreciate it!!!
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redlantern2045
01-07-2017, 05:09 PM #7

@ShrimpBrime YOU ARE A HERO!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I just looked in the bios and what do you know, there is a tab about secondary timings! But there is a metric butt-tone of them! Guess I know what I'll be doing over the weekend! Google also yields no results for secondary timings on neither stick (or even any info at all for the slower one XD ), guess I'll have to boot each ram separately, note down the timings and use the slower ones or even increase them. Again, thank you for the information, I really appreciate it!!!

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fireroster
Member
150
01-11-2017, 07:17 AM
#8
You plan to set up each stick separately and note all the timing details. Then proceed from there.
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fireroster
01-11-2017, 07:17 AM #8

You plan to set up each stick separately and note all the timing details. Then proceed from there.

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tubaluki3
Junior Member
4
01-11-2017, 07:44 AM
#9
Yeah, that is a wonderful idea, I'll try it over the weekend and see how far I will get! Hopefully I'll be able to fix it! Thank you so much for the help, you made my day, sir!!!
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tubaluki3
01-11-2017, 07:44 AM #9

Yeah, that is a wonderful idea, I'll try it over the weekend and see how far I will get! Hopefully I'll be able to fix it! Thank you so much for the help, you made my day, sir!!!

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Ludwis100
Member
194
01-12-2017, 04:40 PM
#10
Thanks a lot for the great help! I adjusted the secondary timings to use the slower ones and lowered the RAM refresh cycle time a bit. Now everything runs smoothly even at 2400MHz and 1.22V. I’m really grateful, no crashes or freezes! I’ll try to flash the memory tomorrow and see how it handles. Thanks again!
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Ludwis100
01-12-2017, 04:40 PM #10

Thanks a lot for the great help! I adjusted the secondary timings to use the slower ones and lowered the RAM refresh cycle time a bit. Now everything runs smoothly even at 2400MHz and 1.22V. I’m really grateful, no crashes or freezes! I’ll try to flash the memory tomorrow and see how it handles. Thanks again!

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