Issue with PC persists beyond mental instability
Issue with PC persists beyond mental instability
Greetings people, I'm writing in hope someone can help me with issue occured. I absolutely hate when issues occuring in random order and from nowhere.
I have MSI trident 3, moba ms9061, i57400, 2soddims 2400mhz 16gb, 1060 6gb, PSU 230 watts, I bought it awhile ago brand new from msi and mantained it well.
Now the issue appeared 3 days ago I wanted to restart my pc but missclicked restart and pressed shutdown instead when I powered it on back I noticed there was no display image which can happen sometimes it does not detect proper output slot so I just switch hdmi1 > 2 or vice verse, however I noticed non of keyboard mouse or any usb ports, thunderbolt ports, ethernet were not working, that was odd and I never had anything like this before, so I just kept force powering off on but it didn't help, I started reading online and most cases like this were advised to reset CMOS, which I did and it didn't help, then I read that some motherboard may not work with dead CMOS battery ( I had original one for like 5 years ) so I bought new one meanwhile my pc unplugged for more than 24 hrs and bios would have been reset by any means, new battery did not help.
After this I started following all of " pc does not post " threads on the internet and dismantled all parts leaving moba, 1 stick ram ( tried each stick in each slot ) but NADA helped for me.
I saw a man advise just to rip everything apart and put it back sometimes computers act really weird and even everything put good together it may not work and only full dismantle and back would work.
It's been two days and I don't have any tools nor 2nd pc to swap vice verse and do some testing, as I said before is completely odd issue which popped out of nowhere and I could not allocate sequence or reason of it, I gave up after full two days reading all kinds of forums all of them were solution to plenty of people but not for me.
I went to local tech center in Prague where I currently am. I explained issue that randomly all of ports stopped working but fans on GPU, CPU, all of rgb on case does work, also when you come close you can hear CPU booting sound, like it actlly boots up windows you can hear CPU being under some work, it's not dead silent.
On the next day they called me and said they turned my pc at very first time without any issues with any of the ports and could not understand what issue, they kept stress testing it and everything was ok, then they restarted it few times and saw issue occured as well, it was occuring randomly, they said you can start pc 10 times in a row no problems but than random amount of times it would boot but with no display image nor usb ports exactly the issue I have, since they were able to boot sometimes without issues they flashed bios and it did not helped, they tested all of moba paths using voltmeter and rest of tools and they gave my pc back for free saying that there is absolutely everything is 100 percent in ideal condition, they witnessed issue I talked about a few times, they could not allocate what exactly causing it and most probably it is moba issue but some very "deep one" whatever it means, if it was like that they should have found it checking paths.
I also specifically asked them to verify condition of PSU and it is completely in working condition as well.
I came back home plugged pc and turned it successfully from the first time, I put all of the case back, and was shutting down and restarting my pc without issue 15-20 times, and could not reproduce issue I had before, then I gave up and went to play some games, meanwhile checking aida64, all of the sensor are ok, temps are ok as well, computer does work 100 percent fine, no bsod or anything else, I kept using my pc until midnight and then turned it off and went to sleep.
Now here I am 4th day, awake, trying to boot my pc again, no usb ports working no display image, I changed plug sockets, I already used to force shut down and turn back via physical button many times today and I cannot a single time get my pc booted with usb ports and display working
It could be anything, but I’d begin with the PSU and then move to the mobo. Of course, you’ll need alternatives to test, and because the problem is unpredictable, you’ll have to conduct extended testing and monitor it closely.
Yes sir, as I mentioned, the tech team tested everything and confirmed all components are functioning properly—no faulty parts were found. My issue lies with the PC being either in a 0 or 1 state, which determines whether it works or not. It seems the problem isn't related to the PC itself but rather to how it's being controlled, such as using a screwdriver versus a paper clip to short the CMOS pins. This is completely unusual and stands out as a major concern. I've been trying to boot the PC all day without any changes, except this time I used a paper clip instead of a screwdriver. The situation has been stable for five years with no problems. I'm writing this from the exact PC, and I need to clarify that I was attempting to boot it continuously throughout the day, doing nothing unusual before now.
PSU 230 watts, MSI prebuilt, should be exclusive, those components tend to be low quality. The same applies to the board. It's a lucky find if it lasts five years without problems. I doubt a new high-quality PSU will fix this problem, but it might also be due to the board or RAM. As discussed, it requires thorough and detailed testing. Only by comparing similar items can you truly understand the situation.
I understand the 230W PSU was manageable at first. With time it will provide less power. Capacitors lose effectiveness and dry out, particularly when operating close to their capacity.
Considering its age, restarting might be the best option if you can afford it. Modifying the MSI layout will be challenging due to part changes.
The i3-12100F is the most affordable late-model CPU available and significantly outperforms the i5-7400.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/292...-i3-12100F
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor
(2139.00Kč @ Alza)
Motherboard:
MSI PRO B760M-P DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Board
(2309.00Kč @ Alza)
Memory:
Kingston FURY Beast 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 RAM
(959.00Kč @ Alza)
Video Card:
MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GT OCV1 Video Card
(Purchased for free)
Case:
Montech AIR 100 LITE MicroATX Mid Tower Housing
(1090.00Kč @ Alza)
Power Supply:
MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Unit
(1299.00Kč @ Alza)
Overall cost: 7796.00Kč
Shipping, taxes, and discounts are included where possible
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2024-08-02 22:20 CEST+0200
I managed to get some insights too. Yesterday, after successfully booting up without any problems, I chose not to power off but instead put the device to sleep. I also checked the Device Manager and unchecked the option that says let PC power off USB ports to save energy. Additionally, I ensured that waking up and going to sleep multiple times didn’t cause issues. The device stayed in sleep mode overnight and today it doesn’t wake up, with no USB ports working and no display image visible.