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Is your graphics card unnecessary?

Is your graphics card unnecessary?

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SedentarySauS
Senior Member
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12-25-2023, 11:21 AM
#1
Hi everyone, I’m dealing with a Gigabyte B760 DS3H MB, 32 GB RAM, a 13th Gen i5 13400F CPU, and an NVidia GeForce GT 710 graphics card that was moved from another system. My Philips 4K monitor is managed by the GPU, though scaling problems appear, and when I run simple Da Vinci Resolve projects, the system crashes with a memory warning.

I’m considering upgrading to a better graphics card to save money, but I’m also thinking about removing the GT710 and using the onboard graphics instead. The specs look similar, and I wonder if I can adjust the settings to use some of the RAM for graphics. (Not sure what I mean.)

TLDR: Is the GT 710 really unnecessary?
Thanks for any advice.
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SedentarySauS
12-25-2023, 11:21 AM #1

Hi everyone, I’m dealing with a Gigabyte B760 DS3H MB, 32 GB RAM, a 13th Gen i5 13400F CPU, and an NVidia GeForce GT 710 graphics card that was moved from another system. My Philips 4K monitor is managed by the GPU, though scaling problems appear, and when I run simple Da Vinci Resolve projects, the system crashes with a memory warning.

I’m considering upgrading to a better graphics card to save money, but I’m also thinking about removing the GT710 and using the onboard graphics instead. The specs look similar, and I wonder if I can adjust the settings to use some of the RAM for graphics. (Not sure what I mean.)

TLDR: Is the GT 710 really unnecessary?
Thanks for any advice.

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Mechhalo
Junior Member
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12-25-2023, 07:56 PM
#2
13400F lacks built-in GPU support.
Motherboard video outputs won't function without it.
Therefore, you must use a separate graphics card.
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Mechhalo
12-25-2023, 07:56 PM #2

13400F lacks built-in GPU support.
Motherboard video outputs won't function without it.
Therefore, you must use a separate graphics card.

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ofeliant
Member
174
01-07-2024, 09:21 AM
#3
In short, yes. Edit: or rather it would be pointless if you had an iGPU, but you don't.
Modern integrated GPUs are more than a match for the 710 (and have been for a while) so unless you're running more monitors than the ports on your motherboard will support there's no reason to use the card.
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ofeliant
01-07-2024, 09:21 AM #3

In short, yes. Edit: or rather it would be pointless if you had an iGPU, but you don't.
Modern integrated GPUs are more than a match for the 710 (and have been for a while) so unless you're running more monitors than the ports on your motherboard will support there's no reason to use the card.

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PacMan4100
Junior Member
18
01-07-2024, 10:35 AM
#4
This situation doesn't apply to all CPUs.
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PacMan4100
01-07-2024, 10:35 AM #4

This situation doesn't apply to all CPUs.

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Questiero
Member
215
01-14-2024, 10:24 AM
#5
According to SkyNetRising, the letter F next to the CPU model number means there’s no built-in graphics. These F CPUs tend to be more affordable, but the savings don’t justify it. You miss out on a useful tool for fixing subtle GPU issues, and you can still run the system without a GPU.

On the other hand, the iGPU can consume resources without offering any advantage, making it reasonable to opt for an F CPU if you’re certain you won’t use the iGPU.

If you’re trying to cut costs, keep saving. Your current CPU is solid, and the next generation of nvidia 500XX series should arrive in about 11-12 months, promising a big leap in graphics performance.

Even without purchasing a 50XX GPU, you’ll likely find better deals on existing 40XX models and AMD offerings.

If you need an immediate graphics upgrade, the cheapest choice is the RTX 3050 6Gb for under $200 or the RTX 4060 for under $300. This would let you wait a few years or more for a new GPU, or invest in a stronger model like the 4070 Ti or Super.

Alternatively, you could spend around $500 on an RX 7800XT and consider it enough for now. Just remember, that card probably won’t match the performance of something you can buy for $500 next year (though it would be a huge improvement today).
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Questiero
01-14-2024, 10:24 AM #5

According to SkyNetRising, the letter F next to the CPU model number means there’s no built-in graphics. These F CPUs tend to be more affordable, but the savings don’t justify it. You miss out on a useful tool for fixing subtle GPU issues, and you can still run the system without a GPU.

On the other hand, the iGPU can consume resources without offering any advantage, making it reasonable to opt for an F CPU if you’re certain you won’t use the iGPU.

If you’re trying to cut costs, keep saving. Your current CPU is solid, and the next generation of nvidia 500XX series should arrive in about 11-12 months, promising a big leap in graphics performance.

Even without purchasing a 50XX GPU, you’ll likely find better deals on existing 40XX models and AMD offerings.

If you need an immediate graphics upgrade, the cheapest choice is the RTX 3050 6Gb for under $200 or the RTX 4060 for under $300. This would let you wait a few years or more for a new GPU, or invest in a stronger model like the 4070 Ti or Super.

Alternatively, you could spend around $500 on an RX 7800XT and consider it enough for now. Just remember, that card probably won’t match the performance of something you can buy for $500 next year (though it would be a huge improvement today).

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Clareesuh
Member
245
01-16-2024, 10:09 AM
#6
Oh - I wasn't following Intel's latest releases, I didn't notice this model lacks an integrated graphics unit.
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Clareesuh
01-16-2024, 10:09 AM #6

Oh - I wasn't following Intel's latest releases, I didn't notice this model lacks an integrated graphics unit.

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01-16-2024, 10:29 AM
#7
It's not really necessary because the OP lacks an iGPU, yet beginning with Windows 10 allows you to run both at once while deciding which application gets priority. Useful for conserving energy and making better use of your GPU when it's not particularly powerful.
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xXMLGSwag360Xx
01-16-2024, 10:29 AM #7

It's not really necessary because the OP lacks an iGPU, yet beginning with Windows 10 allows you to run both at once while deciding which application gets priority. Useful for conserving energy and making better use of your GPU when it's not particularly powerful.

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dehunter456
Member
237
01-16-2024, 11:00 AM
#8
Hey everyone, when I checked my mobo specs online, I might have missed a version with an on-board GPU. Thanks for the suggestions too. I don’t require top-tier performance, but if I bought something now, I’d probably end up buying a flight simulator instead. Food for thought...
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dehunter456
01-16-2024, 11:00 AM #8

Hey everyone, when I checked my mobo specs online, I might have missed a version with an on-board GPU. Thanks for the suggestions too. I don’t require top-tier performance, but if I bought something now, I’d probably end up buying a flight simulator instead. Food for thought...

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eldiablored
Member
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01-23-2024, 08:50 PM
#9
I chose the RTX 3050 for the job, which wasn't cheap in Oz but was still within budget. Thanks again.
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eldiablored
01-23-2024, 08:50 PM #9

I chose the RTX 3050 for the job, which wasn't cheap in Oz but was still within budget. Thanks again.

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Mr_Doom1023
Member
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01-30-2024, 10:02 AM
#10
Currently, integrated GPUs are embedded within CPUs rather than being separate components on motherboards. This shift has occurred over roughly 15 years ago.
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Mr_Doom1023
01-30-2024, 10:02 AM #10

Currently, integrated GPUs are embedded within CPUs rather than being separate components on motherboards. This shift has occurred over roughly 15 years ago.

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