Is there any guidance on improving your hardware?
Is there any guidance on improving your hardware?
Hello
I'm considering purchasing a new setup including CPU, cooler, motherboard, and power supply. The components I have in mind are: CPU – Intel® Core™ i5-13600K, cooler – CORSAIR iCUE H115i RGB ELITE, motherboard – MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk WIFI, and power supply – Seasonic FOCUS Plus 650 Platinum. Please share your feedback, whether you think it's a good idea or not.
What is your maximum budget for those four components? Are you committed to liquid cooling? What model are you considering?
I'm from Denmark and the optimal price I can find for everything is around 1150$ - 7500DKK.
I haven't tried liquid cooling yet, but I'd like to try it.
The model in question is
NZXT S340 ATX Mid Tower Case
Checks the GPU specifications.
Is it mainly intended for gaming?
32 GB is acceptable, but it would be better to use 2 sticks of 16 GB each instead of 4 sticks of 8 GB each
A slightly lower price option available:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor
(2314.00kr @ Proshop)
CPU Cooler:
Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler
(453.00kr @ Proshop)
Motherboard:
Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE AX V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard
(1301.00kr @ Proshop)
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
(Purchased For 0.00kr)
Storage:
Samsung 870 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
(Purchased For 0.00kr)
Storage:
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
(Purchased For 0.00kr)
Video Card:
MSI VENTUS 2X OCV1 GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR 8 GB Video Card
(Purchased For 0.00kr)
Case:
NZXT S340 ATX Mid Tower Case
(Purchased For 0.00kr)
Power Supply:
NZXT C850 (2022) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(970.00kr @ Proshop)
Monitor:
AOC CQ27G2U/BK 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Curved Monitor
(Purchased For 0.00kr)
Overall Cost:
5038.00kr
Includes shipping, taxes, and any applicable discounts
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2023-07-10 14:15 CEST+0200
Alternative choices if desired:
https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/product/RY4Y...c-h51fb-01
https://dk.pcpartpicker.com/product/QnD7...c-poa1a-02
AM5 upgrade option available:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor
(2651.00kr @ Føniks Computer)
CPU Cooler:
Deepcool AG620 BK ARGB 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler
(453.00kr @ Proshop)
Motherboard:
Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
(1549.00kr @ Proshop)
Memory:
G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory
(858.00kr @ Proshop)
Storage:
Samsung 870 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
(Purchased For 0.00kr)
Storage:
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
(Purchased For 0.00kr)
Video Card:
MSI VENTUS 2X OCV1 GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR 8 GB Video Card
(Purchased For 0.00kr)
Case:
NZXT S340 ATX Mid Tower Case
(Purchased For 0.00kr)
Power Supply:
NZXT C850 (2022) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(970.00kr @ Proshop)
Monitor:
AOC CQ27G2U/BK 27.0" 2560 x 1440 144 Hz Curved Monitor
(Purchased For 0.00kr)
Total:
6481.00kr
Prices encompass shipping, taxes, and any available discounts
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PCPartPicker
2023-07-10 14:18 CEST+0200
If I understand correctly, you’ll be using some of the same parts again. This approach should be effective and your list of possible substitutes will be useful. The main issue for me is considering liquid cooling when it isn’t needed. A decent twin tower air cooler performs well, is easier to install, more dependable, and costs half as much. AIO coolers tend to fail over time; air leaks or the pump can stop them. Plan to replace them in five years. The 13th generation model behaves differently. If you’re concerned about overheating with a 13600K, check this article: Core i9-13900K Cooling Guide: Testing Intel's Flagship With Budget Air and Big AIOs The Core i9-13900K can handle even the strongest liquid coolers without losing much speed. In a video you can watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFgswzTvyc
I wouldn't buy an Intel 13th-gen CPU, especially not in Europe where electricity has become insanely expensive. If I were you, I'd be looking at an R5-7600. I'll explain why:
The i5-13600K's average gaming performance exceeds that of the R5-7600 by 15%:
However, the average power consumption of the i5-13600K exceeds that of the R5-7600 by a colossal 93% (I'm not kidding):
Not only that, the i5-13600K costs 37% more Danske Kroner than the R5-7600:
AMD R5-7600: 1887kr at ProShop (incl. VAT)
Intel i5-13600K: 2578kr at ProShop (incl. VAT)
The R5-7600 has two other advantages, one small and one large. The small advantage is that it comes with an enclosed air cooler. Now, if you want to throw money away on an AIO, that is your right but if you change your mind, the AMD Wraith Spire is more than adequate for the R5-7600.
The large advantage is the fact that the AM5 platform is brand-new and you'll have access to drop-in CPU upgrades in the future, something that isn't true about Intel's LGA 1700 socket. An upgrade to your i5-13600K will require a new motherboard. This will make what you spend on that MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk WIFI motherboard a complete waste because you'll just have to turf it if you ever want to upgrade.
For the R5-7600, a great choice in that price class would be:
ASRock X670E Pro RS - 2302kr at ProShop (incl. VAT)
The main PCI-Express x16 GPU slot on an X670E motherboard is PCI-Express v5.0, just like the slot on the MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk WIFI. As you can see, the difference in gaming performance between the R5-7600 and the R7-7700X is less than 6%, hardly worth the extra 40% (764kr) for a gaming system. That's why I recommend the R5-7600. It's a great gaming CPU, sips power, is far less expensive and is on the superior AM5 platform.
You can do what you want, but I believe that choosing the i5-13600K would be a big mistake at this time.