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Is the 45-second boot time acceptable?

Is the 45-second boot time acceptable?

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destruc7
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07-16-2023, 05:35 AM
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Constructed a fresh PC and it functions perfectly. Checking if a 45 second startup is suitable for a 7800X3D and a 4700TI. I refreshed the thermal paste and replaced the CPU cooler after experiencing high temperatures beforehand. During boot, the CPU light remains red and the DRAM light stays yellow. All temperatures appear normal despite this. Spikes can occur occasionally, reaching up to 7-10°C above the usual range of 47-57°C. Idle temperatures stay between 46-52°C. XMP is enabled, RAM is rated 4800-6000MHZ. I reinserted the RAM in the original slots. It might be a defective stick, but it seems unlikely based on current observations.
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destruc7
07-16-2023, 05:35 AM #1

Constructed a fresh PC and it functions perfectly. Checking if a 45 second startup is suitable for a 7800X3D and a 4700TI. I refreshed the thermal paste and replaced the CPU cooler after experiencing high temperatures beforehand. During boot, the CPU light remains red and the DRAM light stays yellow. All temperatures appear normal despite this. Spikes can occur occasionally, reaching up to 7-10°C above the usual range of 47-57°C. Idle temperatures stay between 46-52°C. XMP is enabled, RAM is rated 4800-6000MHZ. I reinserted the RAM in the original slots. It might be a defective stick, but it seems unlikely based on current observations.

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Nociph
Member
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07-17-2023, 07:04 AM
#2
It's not about the CPU and GPU, but the motherboard and RAM. What are the MoBo and RAM? Have you turned on an overclocking profile?
Short answer is yes, POST times can be frustratingly long, often exceeding a minute. This is typically due to OC DDR5 settings.
It might not be another issue, but for now I think the RAM is the problem. Does the PC start Windows quickly after reaching the Boot stage? Does it function properly once Windows is running? Or does it work correctly with any other operating system?
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Nociph
07-17-2023, 07:04 AM #2

It's not about the CPU and GPU, but the motherboard and RAM. What are the MoBo and RAM? Have you turned on an overclocking profile?
Short answer is yes, POST times can be frustratingly long, often exceeding a minute. This is typically due to OC DDR5 settings.
It might not be another issue, but for now I think the RAM is the problem. Does the PC start Windows quickly after reaching the Boot stage? Does it function properly once Windows is running? Or does it work correctly with any other operating system?

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oMeninuWerick
Junior Member
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07-17-2023, 08:24 AM
#3
I think it might be taking a while to set up the RAM. -- OK
How long does it take after the windows loading appears and before the lock screen shows up? (if this is slow, it's not acceptable)
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oMeninuWerick
07-17-2023, 08:24 AM #3

I think it might be taking a while to set up the RAM. -- OK
How long does it take after the windows loading appears and before the lock screen shows up? (if this is slow, it's not acceptable)

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FlorinVladut
Member
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07-19-2023, 05:12 AM
#4
I believe you're correct about the RAM. The windows loading issue MAG msi shows then after 2-6 seconds I get the pin entry screen to log in instantly)
Occasionally the boot time is a bit longer, around 37 seconds or more until I reach the pin entry screen on the computer.
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FlorinVladut
07-19-2023, 05:12 AM #4

I believe you're correct about the RAM. The windows loading issue MAG msi shows then after 2-6 seconds I get the pin entry screen to log in instantly)
Occasionally the boot time is a bit longer, around 37 seconds or more until I reach the pin entry screen on the computer.

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DarklyThunder
Member
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07-23-2023, 09:26 PM
#5
Ok, the good news is there is no problem.
...the bad news is there is no problem.
😀
So you have to live with this.
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DarklyThunder
07-23-2023, 09:26 PM #5

Ok, the good news is there is no problem.
...the bad news is there is no problem.
😀
So you have to live with this.

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DRamboPT
Junior Member
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07-23-2023, 11:23 PM
#6
I agree with your assessment regarding the RAM. I didn't overclock it; it's currently set at 6000MHz, which is higher than the initial 4800MHz.
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DRamboPT
07-23-2023, 11:23 PM #6

I agree with your assessment regarding the RAM. I didn't overclock it; it's currently set at 6000MHz, which is higher than the initial 4800MHz.

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rasfisch
Junior Member
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07-24-2023, 01:23 AM
#7
Fun Fact: XMP functions like overclocking, but it does so automatically. 😉
If your Windows starts up normally, you don’t need to worry—this delay comes from the POST process refreshing the memory during boot.
Also, has your BIOS been updated to the newest release?
Mini adjustments from chip makers help speed up these POST cycles. The most recent update is 7D69v1D, dropped on February 19, 2024. Changes related to DDR5 memory are detailed in the changelog; upgrading could improve performance.
BIOS update link: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-X670E-ACE/support#
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rasfisch
07-24-2023, 01:23 AM #7

Fun Fact: XMP functions like overclocking, but it does so automatically. 😉
If your Windows starts up normally, you don’t need to worry—this delay comes from the POST process refreshing the memory during boot.
Also, has your BIOS been updated to the newest release?
Mini adjustments from chip makers help speed up these POST cycles. The most recent update is 7D69v1D, dropped on February 19, 2024. Changes related to DDR5 memory are detailed in the changelog; upgrading could improve performance.
BIOS update link: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-X670E-ACE/support#

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SethexGS
Junior Member
8
07-24-2023, 09:28 AM
#8
That's typical. Many DDR5 RAM modules come out stock at 4800 MHz. 6000 MHz is considered a stable "optimal range," though I'm not sure how many motherboards or systems can handle it without some overclocking.

You didn't do anything wrong. You didn't even try to overclock deliberately. As you mentioned, you just turned on XMS to achieve the speed and stopped there. The issue is that it could lead to longer startup times.

Some motherboards are more known for this problem than others. Models from MSI and ASUS have had users complain about it. They're solid once the system is running, but the startup can be quite slow.
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SethexGS
07-24-2023, 09:28 AM #8

That's typical. Many DDR5 RAM modules come out stock at 4800 MHz. 6000 MHz is considered a stable "optimal range," though I'm not sure how many motherboards or systems can handle it without some overclocking.

You didn't do anything wrong. You didn't even try to overclock deliberately. As you mentioned, you just turned on XMS to achieve the speed and stopped there. The issue is that it could lead to longer startup times.

Some motherboards are more known for this problem than others. Models from MSI and ASUS have had users complain about it. They're solid once the system is running, but the startup can be quite slow.

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antmat04
Member
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07-24-2023, 10:52 AM
#9
BIOS is current with the newest release. I didn't realize XMS was actually causing an overclock! They told me to update to the latest BIOS, but I didn't get it. I was getting a blue screen right after turning on the PC. It resolved once I installed the most recent x670e BIOS and flashed it. Thanks for your assistance. I was concerned at first about the red CPU indicator and yellow warning, but it looks normal now.
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antmat04
07-24-2023, 10:52 AM #9

BIOS is current with the newest release. I didn't realize XMS was actually causing an overclock! They told me to update to the latest BIOS, but I didn't get it. I was getting a blue screen right after turning on the PC. It resolved once I installed the most recent x670e BIOS and flashed it. Thanks for your assistance. I was concerned at first about the red CPU indicator and yellow warning, but it looks normal now.

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AmazinglyCool
Senior Member
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07-25-2023, 02:40 PM
#10
I see. Yes I love this motherboard it looks great. An MSI motherboard might work even better with an MSI GPU too which I have. Thanks for the help and reassurance!
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AmazinglyCool
07-25-2023, 02:40 PM #10

I see. Yes I love this motherboard it looks great. An MSI motherboard might work even better with an MSI GPU too which I have. Thanks for the help and reassurance!

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