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Is a surge protector enough or do you need a UPS for your PC?

Is a surge protector enough or do you need a UPS for your PC?

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Bro_craft23
Member
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08-19-2022, 02:57 AM
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Hi everyone, I'm not sure if this is the best forum to ask, but my surge protector failed because the power went out several times in the morning, which definitely disabled it. Luckily, everything else is working fine. Right now, a UPS is a bit over budget since most I've seen cost a lot. Would replacing another one from tripplite/apc be enough to protect my PC? I'm not very familiar with these products, so any suggestions would be really helpful.

My system details are:
CPU: i5-12400f
GPU: 6950 XT
Storage: 2TB SSD and 1TB M.2 SSD
PSU: MSI MPG A1000G Gold 1000w
Displays: 1x 27 inch monitor 1440p @ 165hz, plus an old 24 inch 60hz monitor.
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Bro_craft23
08-19-2022, 02:57 AM #1

Hi everyone, I'm not sure if this is the best forum to ask, but my surge protector failed because the power went out several times in the morning, which definitely disabled it. Luckily, everything else is working fine. Right now, a UPS is a bit over budget since most I've seen cost a lot. Would replacing another one from tripplite/apc be enough to protect my PC? I'm not very familiar with these products, so any suggestions would be really helpful.

My system details are:
CPU: i5-12400f
GPU: 6950 XT
Storage: 2TB SSD and 1TB M.2 SSD
PSU: MSI MPG A1000G Gold 1000w
Displays: 1x 27 inch monitor 1440p @ 165hz, plus an old 24 inch 60hz monitor.

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BobyFresh
Junior Member
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09-06-2022, 10:04 PM
#2
The goal of a UPS is to supply power to its' connected computer and devices just long enough for an end user to shut down smoothly when electricity is interrupted. It does not aim to keep the system running continuously, such as during gaming or video streaming. UPS units can offer surge protection measured in Joules, but this protection is limited and depleted quickly—especially during significant power surges or repeated smaller ones. Most manufacturers advise against using separate surge protectors or power strips along the power path to connected devices. A single additional surge protector might help, but further investigation is recommended.

Why does power frequently drop during mornings? Is this a recurring issue or a one-time event, such as a storm? Are the home and its electrical system correctly grounded? Are there any overloaded circuits? It’s important to examine the entire electrical setup.

There are numerous products available, so it’s wise to start by researching surge protectors individually, along with reviews. For instance:
https://www.tomsguide.com/best-picks/bes...-protector
You can find more detailed guides, diagrams, and considerations there. The main focus should be identifying the underlying problem and resolving it. Even if it requires a higher initial investment, this approach can lead to long-term savings. For example, avoiding the need to replace a surge protector every so often.
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BobyFresh
09-06-2022, 10:04 PM #2

The goal of a UPS is to supply power to its' connected computer and devices just long enough for an end user to shut down smoothly when electricity is interrupted. It does not aim to keep the system running continuously, such as during gaming or video streaming. UPS units can offer surge protection measured in Joules, but this protection is limited and depleted quickly—especially during significant power surges or repeated smaller ones. Most manufacturers advise against using separate surge protectors or power strips along the power path to connected devices. A single additional surge protector might help, but further investigation is recommended.

Why does power frequently drop during mornings? Is this a recurring issue or a one-time event, such as a storm? Are the home and its electrical system correctly grounded? Are there any overloaded circuits? It’s important to examine the entire electrical setup.

There are numerous products available, so it’s wise to start by researching surge protectors individually, along with reviews. For instance:
https://www.tomsguide.com/best-picks/bes...-protector
You can find more detailed guides, diagrams, and considerations there. The main focus should be identifying the underlying problem and resolving it. Even if it requires a higher initial investment, this approach can lead to long-term savings. For example, avoiding the need to replace a surge protector every so often.

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Juan2610
Posting Freak
875
09-07-2022, 02:56 AM
#3
Thank you for the details, yes the power outage appeared to be an isolated event. The house I reside in is quite old, likely constructed in the 1940s. My previous Belkin surge protector had a light showing both protected and ungrounded states. Would it make sense to purchase another surge protector now, or should I wait?
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Juan2610
09-07-2022, 02:56 AM #3

Thank you for the details, yes the power outage appeared to be an isolated event. The house I reside in is quite old, likely constructed in the 1940s. My previous Belkin surge protector had a light showing both protected and ungrounded states. Would it make sense to purchase another surge protector now, or should I wait?

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SushiBroPvP
Junior Member
41
09-11-2022, 04:34 AM
#4
I would prefer a UPS. As discussed before, they include surge protection too. Although the UPS can't handle prolonged use because of its high power consumption, you still get the opportunity to pause, stop, or otherwise safely shut down what you're doing.
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SushiBroPvP
09-11-2022, 04:34 AM #4

I would prefer a UPS. As discussed before, they include surge protection too. Although the UPS can't handle prolonged use because of its high power consumption, you still get the opportunity to pause, stop, or otherwise safely shut down what you're doing.

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Nivek360
Member
68
09-11-2022, 04:41 AM
#5
When the budget is tight, what other options exist? I found out that opting for a low-cost upgrade might sometimes cause more problems than it solves.
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Nivek360
09-11-2022, 04:41 AM #5

When the budget is tight, what other options exist? I found out that opting for a low-cost upgrade might sometimes cause more problems than it solves.

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bengalwatcher
Posting Freak
801
09-18-2022, 03:23 PM
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You'd need to visit eBay or AliExpress Saturday deals to cause harm. A standard UPS is completely acceptable. I wouldn't worry about a UPS if money isn't an issue. Invest in a reliable surge protector that indicates its protection status—most have a small light showing if it's still working. Some models can be reset as prices increase. Any protection is preferable to none. If your home's electrical setup is solid (proper grounding, correct wire size, appropriate breaker ratings), lasting damage is unlikely with a surge protector. UPS devices mainly ensure you have time to safely shut down equipment and confirm the system is off before power is cut. Unless you're willing to spend a lot, some UPS units might not be fast enough to prevent your PC from restarting. TL;DR: Purchase a surge protector with a visible protection indicator. If it can't be reset and the light is off, it's likely wasteful—usually the cheapest options.
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bengalwatcher
09-18-2022, 03:23 PM #6

You'd need to visit eBay or AliExpress Saturday deals to cause harm. A standard UPS is completely acceptable. I wouldn't worry about a UPS if money isn't an issue. Invest in a reliable surge protector that indicates its protection status—most have a small light showing if it's still working. Some models can be reset as prices increase. Any protection is preferable to none. If your home's electrical setup is solid (proper grounding, correct wire size, appropriate breaker ratings), lasting damage is unlikely with a surge protector. UPS devices mainly ensure you have time to safely shut down equipment and confirm the system is off before power is cut. Unless you're willing to spend a lot, some UPS units might not be fast enough to prevent your PC from restarting. TL;DR: Purchase a surge protector with a visible protection indicator. If it can't be reset and the light is off, it's likely wasteful—usually the cheapest options.

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whoisjacob
Junior Member
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09-18-2022, 04:42 PM
#7
Based on your computer specifications, which models would you suggest considering?
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whoisjacob
09-18-2022, 04:42 PM #7

Based on your computer specifications, which models would you suggest considering?

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FieryExile_
Member
231
09-26-2022, 12:11 AM
#8
It seems you're expecting some significant expenses, more than you might anticipate. Initially, your device should have a substantial power source, though it probably won't reach the full 1000 watts. Mismatched units can harm the UPS. There are two types of UPS systems: VA ratings and wattage capacities. Most commonly, you'll encounter a model with around 1500 VA. Check the details to confirm it can manage 1000 watts—some are limited to 800 or 900. If not, opting for a genuine sine wave UPS is advisable. Contemporary power supplies with bronze, gold, or platinum ratings achieve this efficiency by being highly efficient. However, they require a very stable power input. Cheaper models often produce square wave or simulated sine waves, which can trigger shutdowns on the UPS and potentially damage it. The risk of such issues is low since you're connected to the UPS only when the main power fails. It's generally not advised to use these budget options due to safety concerns, even though many people do for cost reasons. For a reliable choice, consider this popular model available in the USA—perfect for your requirements. Amazon.com
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FieryExile_
09-26-2022, 12:11 AM #8

It seems you're expecting some significant expenses, more than you might anticipate. Initially, your device should have a substantial power source, though it probably won't reach the full 1000 watts. Mismatched units can harm the UPS. There are two types of UPS systems: VA ratings and wattage capacities. Most commonly, you'll encounter a model with around 1500 VA. Check the details to confirm it can manage 1000 watts—some are limited to 800 or 900. If not, opting for a genuine sine wave UPS is advisable. Contemporary power supplies with bronze, gold, or platinum ratings achieve this efficiency by being highly efficient. However, they require a very stable power input. Cheaper models often produce square wave or simulated sine waves, which can trigger shutdowns on the UPS and potentially damage it. The risk of such issues is low since you're connected to the UPS only when the main power fails. It's generally not advised to use these budget options due to safety concerns, even though many people do for cost reasons. For a reliable choice, consider this popular model available in the USA—perfect for your requirements. Amazon.com