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Investigating Cooling Below Ambient Water Temperatures

Investigating Cooling Below Ambient Water Temperatures

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TwinDiamond
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12-25-2023, 02:06 PM
#11
rubix_1011 :
I don't think anyone on this forum really can say that anything or any idea is crazy.
We're the guys that run water to cool their computers...that might put us in a room of our own, but we're all on the same boat, in the same padded room and all sharing the same straight jacket.
There is never enough crazy when it comes to watercooling.
Edit: Have you considered a circulation pump for your cooler? I wonder if this would increase cooling performance much like a convection oven with circulating air improves consistent baking?
Good point, overclockers are a minority in the computing realm as a whole, and water coolers are a minority of the minority.
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TwinDiamond
12-25-2023, 02:06 PM #11

rubix_1011 :
I don't think anyone on this forum really can say that anything or any idea is crazy.
We're the guys that run water to cool their computers...that might put us in a room of our own, but we're all on the same boat, in the same padded room and all sharing the same straight jacket.
There is never enough crazy when it comes to watercooling.
Edit: Have you considered a circulation pump for your cooler? I wonder if this would increase cooling performance much like a convection oven with circulating air improves consistent baking?
Good point, overclockers are a minority in the computing realm as a whole, and water coolers are a minority of the minority.

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FionsFianna
Junior Member
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12-25-2023, 02:06 PM
#12
toolmaker_03 :
ok that is cool, I don't have two freezers, but I do have one stand up freezer, and it can hold about 30 gallons. do you think that will get me to about six hours of game time or would that be three.
30 gallons?
You need to read this thread again.
With 8 gallons of water in the cooler I can only add 2 jugs of ice at one time?
If I drop the water level to 7 gallons I can add 3 gallon jugs of ice, but that will drop me down to condensation producing levels and I don't want or need to go that low.
Any cooling you can attain below ambient room temperature even just 3c below ambient changes overclocking headroom drastically.
20c is 3c below my ambient room temperature, I use 20c as my change out point and swap to 2 freshly frozen jugs, 30minutes later I am at 15c and it takes about 4 hours to get back to 20c.
I can game all day long if I want even with the GPUs added to the mix swapping out 6 gallon jugs 2 at the time, that leaves 4 fully frozen in reserve still in the freezer.
FYI, I don't game for 12hours at the time, I don't know your gaming habits, but maybe this clears it up some.
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FionsFianna
12-25-2023, 02:06 PM #12

toolmaker_03 :
ok that is cool, I don't have two freezers, but I do have one stand up freezer, and it can hold about 30 gallons. do you think that will get me to about six hours of game time or would that be three.
30 gallons?
You need to read this thread again.
With 8 gallons of water in the cooler I can only add 2 jugs of ice at one time?
If I drop the water level to 7 gallons I can add 3 gallon jugs of ice, but that will drop me down to condensation producing levels and I don't want or need to go that low.
Any cooling you can attain below ambient room temperature even just 3c below ambient changes overclocking headroom drastically.
20c is 3c below my ambient room temperature, I use 20c as my change out point and swap to 2 freshly frozen jugs, 30minutes later I am at 15c and it takes about 4 hours to get back to 20c.
I can game all day long if I want even with the GPUs added to the mix swapping out 6 gallon jugs 2 at the time, that leaves 4 fully frozen in reserve still in the freezer.
FYI, I don't game for 12hours at the time, I don't know your gaming habits, but maybe this clears it up some.

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homedawg_
Member
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12-25-2023, 02:06 PM
#13
I understand what you're referring to, and I see why the hot water would melt the ice fast. That's why I wanted to know how long it would take 30 gallons to melt using 10 gallons per fill or at each switch as the temperatures increase.
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homedawg_
12-25-2023, 02:06 PM #13

I understand what you're referring to, and I see why the hot water would melt the ice fast. That's why I wanted to know how long it would take 30 gallons to melt using 10 gallons per fill or at each switch as the temperatures increase.

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iObeyNothing
Junior Member
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12-25-2023, 02:06 PM
#14
In reality, your question hinges on numerous factors that make accurate prediction difficult. This situation is similar to operating a massive reservoir with ice added to cool water below normal temperatures. The ice helps reduce heat release and keeps temperatures lower than ambient because the radiators are not active.
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iObeyNothing
12-25-2023, 02:06 PM #14

In reality, your question hinges on numerous factors that make accurate prediction difficult. This situation is similar to operating a massive reservoir with ice added to cool water below normal temperatures. The ice helps reduce heat release and keeps temperatures lower than ambient because the radiators are not active.

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Nero12321
Posting Freak
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12-25-2023, 02:06 PM
#15
In reality, your request hinges on numerous factors that make accurate prediction difficult. This type of task is comparable to operating a massive reservoir with ice added to cool water below normal temperatures. The ice helps reduce heat and lowers the overall temperature further because radiators aren't active. Radiators will start to be used, marking the start of a completely new update. I've developed a Rad Box designed to cool the GPUs specifically.
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Nero12321
12-25-2023, 02:06 PM #15

In reality, your request hinges on numerous factors that make accurate prediction difficult. This type of task is comparable to operating a massive reservoir with ice added to cool water below normal temperatures. The ice helps reduce heat and lowers the overall temperature further because radiators aren't active. Radiators will start to be used, marking the start of a completely new update. I've developed a Rad Box designed to cool the GPUs specifically.

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Monkies
Junior Member
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12-25-2023, 02:06 PM
#16
The radbox issue has really affected us lately.
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Monkies
12-25-2023, 02:06 PM #16

The radbox issue has really affected us lately.

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DerpyBat
Member
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12-25-2023, 02:07 PM
#17
Have you thought about using a circulation pump for your cooler? It might boost cooling performance similarly to how a convection oven with circulating air enhances consistent baking. I also noticed that running the return line to the cooler's rear accomplishes the same goal.
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DerpyBat
12-25-2023, 02:07 PM #17

Have you thought about using a circulation pump for your cooler? It might boost cooling performance similarly to how a convection oven with circulating air enhances consistent baking. I also noticed that running the return line to the cooler's rear accomplishes the same goal.

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Luna7568
Junior Member
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12-25-2023, 02:07 PM
#18
I took a moment to reflect on the circ comment...the rhythm alone would be sufficient. Not enough caffeine yet this morning.
Several concerns arose regarding the GPUs and rads in the loop. You referred to an issue there.
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Luna7568
12-25-2023, 02:07 PM #18

I took a moment to reflect on the circ comment...the rhythm alone would be sufficient. Not enough caffeine yet this morning.
Several concerns arose regarding the GPUs and rads in the loop. You referred to an issue there.

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jerrychok
Junior Member
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12-25-2023, 02:07 PM
#19
Heated the water excessively, which led to increased growth. I wasn't sure if I would have given up. Maybe adding more rads before it reached the water? Or adjusting the jugs more frequently? Or simply using a growth killer directly?
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jerrychok
12-25-2023, 02:07 PM #19

Heated the water excessively, which led to increased growth. I wasn't sure if I would have given up. Maybe adding more rads before it reached the water? Or adjusting the jugs more frequently? Or simply using a growth killer directly?

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USAirways
Member
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12-25-2023, 02:07 PM
#20
I would prefer heat exchangers with a closed system, and utilize the cooler as a water/slush container with the rads placed inside. The WC loop would stay sealed, but you could maintain either a coolant or controlled water in the cooler, and use the ice jugs similarly. The internal growth in the cooler must come from condensation gathering and supporting crawlies, since otherwise the microbial inhibitor tablets wouldn't be effective.
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USAirways
12-25-2023, 02:07 PM #20

I would prefer heat exchangers with a closed system, and utilize the cooler as a water/slush container with the rads placed inside. The WC loop would stay sealed, but you could maintain either a coolant or controlled water in the cooler, and use the ice jugs similarly. The internal growth in the cooler must come from condensation gathering and supporting crawlies, since otherwise the microbial inhibitor tablets wouldn't be effective.

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