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Integrated graphics perform better on the 9th generation compared to the 8th.

Integrated graphics perform better on the 9th generation compared to the 8th.

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Viperiouss
Junior Member
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05-12-2020, 07:08 PM
#1
I received a five-year-old Optiplex last month and after adding a 16GB RAM module, I'm experiencing truly impressive results in modded Minecraft (ATM7 To The Sky). Maintaining around 100fps at 1440p without a dedicated graphics card is quite remarkable. Compared to my i7-7500U laptop, the i7-8700 looks significantly stronger—likely because it has a 65W TDP and nearly double the cores. I've heard the chipset supports both 8th and 9th generation CPUs, so I'm thinking about whether an upgrade makes sense. My goal is to keep costs low, and the cheapest graphics option I'm eyeing is a 3060Ti. Since I'm using HDMI, I need a 2.1 port, and if I end up needing a new power supply, I'll want a solid card. The SSD is an SK Hynix model—probably SATA with M.2 size. That shouldn't impact performance, should it? The RAM upgrade definitely helped, but without XMP enabled and the board capped at 2400MT/s, I'm missing out on its full potential. Upgrading the cooling or reapplying thermal paste with Noctua 80mm PWM fans could also make a difference. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks for the details!
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Viperiouss
05-12-2020, 07:08 PM #1

I received a five-year-old Optiplex last month and after adding a 16GB RAM module, I'm experiencing truly impressive results in modded Minecraft (ATM7 To The Sky). Maintaining around 100fps at 1440p without a dedicated graphics card is quite remarkable. Compared to my i7-7500U laptop, the i7-8700 looks significantly stronger—likely because it has a 65W TDP and nearly double the cores. I've heard the chipset supports both 8th and 9th generation CPUs, so I'm thinking about whether an upgrade makes sense. My goal is to keep costs low, and the cheapest graphics option I'm eyeing is a 3060Ti. Since I'm using HDMI, I need a 2.1 port, and if I end up needing a new power supply, I'll want a solid card. The SSD is an SK Hynix model—probably SATA with M.2 size. That shouldn't impact performance, should it? The RAM upgrade definitely helped, but without XMP enabled and the board capped at 2400MT/s, I'm missing out on its full potential. Upgrading the cooling or reapplying thermal paste with Noctua 80mm PWM fans could also make a difference. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks for the details!

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VrackGaming
Junior Member
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05-14-2020, 10:58 PM
#2
These versions are identical.
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VrackGaming
05-14-2020, 10:58 PM #2

These versions are identical.

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SkyInsane
Senior Member
718
05-31-2020, 09:55 AM
#3
I had hoped it wouldn't be this way. Still, would the frame rate improve? Those 9700k units are indeed faster than the 8700k models.
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SkyInsane
05-31-2020, 09:55 AM #3

I had hoped it wouldn't be this way. Still, would the frame rate improve? Those 9700k units are indeed faster than the 8700k models.

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GoMigs
Senior Member
614
06-01-2020, 09:29 PM
#4
I believe the need to upgrade stems from my recent achievement of constructing the entire periodic table using a fusion reactor and glass drawers. My processor becomes frustrated when I examine it. As we progress, the more optional settings I can disable, the fewer options remain—there’s little else left to turn off. Currently, I’m averaging over 60fps, which isn’t a major struggle, but I’d love to see even better performance.
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GoMigs
06-01-2020, 09:29 PM #4

I believe the need to upgrade stems from my recent achievement of constructing the entire periodic table using a fusion reactor and glass drawers. My processor becomes frustrated when I examine it. As we progress, the more optional settings I can disable, the fewer options remain—there’s little else left to turn off. Currently, I’m averaging over 60fps, which isn’t a major struggle, but I’d love to see even better performance.

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godfreydtm
Member
214
06-05-2020, 07:13 PM
#5
The graphics capabilities will be the main constraint here, though a stronger CPU could slightly improve what you see with a dedicated GPU and removing built-in graphics entirely. Upgrading to a GTX 1660 or newer would surpass even the best integrated processors. If you choose the 3060ti, why is this discussion about integrated graphics still relevant?
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godfreydtm
06-05-2020, 07:13 PM #5

The graphics capabilities will be the main constraint here, though a stronger CPU could slightly improve what you see with a dedicated GPU and removing built-in graphics entirely. Upgrading to a GTX 1660 or newer would surpass even the best integrated processors. If you choose the 3060ti, why is this discussion about integrated graphics still relevant?

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Mandi_64
Member
202
06-12-2020, 02:19 AM
#6
Consider Intel's Ark: 8700K and 9700K models, both featuring UHD 630 at 350 MHz and 1.2 GHz. Essentially the same specifications.
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Mandi_64
06-12-2020, 02:19 AM #6

Consider Intel's Ark: 8700K and 9700K models, both featuring UHD 630 at 350 MHz and 1.2 GHz. Essentially the same specifications.

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dubdub112
Member
202
06-12-2020, 05:32 AM
#7
It seems the issue only appears when examining these components, suggesting a graphics card limitation rather than a CPU one. As long as the data is loaded, the CPU would handle it without any change. For noticeable improvement, consider using a dedicated graphics card. You don’t need something extraordinary—Minecraft isn’t demanding that much power. Are you aware if Optiplex offers a 6-pin or 8-pin PCIe slot for a graphics card? If not, you can upgrade to a model like the GTX 1650, which fits within the slot’s power limits—still a significant upgrade over the UHD 630.
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dubdub112
06-12-2020, 05:32 AM #7

It seems the issue only appears when examining these components, suggesting a graphics card limitation rather than a CPU one. As long as the data is loaded, the CPU would handle it without any change. For noticeable improvement, consider using a dedicated graphics card. You don’t need something extraordinary—Minecraft isn’t demanding that much power. Are you aware if Optiplex offers a 6-pin or 8-pin PCIe slot for a graphics card? If not, you can upgrade to a model like the GTX 1650, which fits within the slot’s power limits—still a significant upgrade over the UHD 630.

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pepsitaroh
Member
209
06-15-2020, 01:02 PM
#8
I’m avoiding the 3060Ti since I don’t want to overspend. A 1660 would be too costly if I’m already investing heavily, and I’d rather get HDMI 2.1 plus ray tracing instead. The 8700 feels nearly ideal, so I’m hesitant to pay much for an upgrade. A used 9700k seems like the most sensible choice, possibly matching my budget.
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pepsitaroh
06-15-2020, 01:02 PM #8

I’m avoiding the 3060Ti since I don’t want to overspend. A 1660 would be too costly if I’m already investing heavily, and I’d rather get HDMI 2.1 plus ray tracing instead. The 8700 feels nearly ideal, so I’m hesitant to pay much for an upgrade. A used 9700k seems like the most sensible choice, possibly matching my budget.

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The_D3mon
Senior Member
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06-15-2020, 07:59 PM
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You understand that a used 9700K model usually fetches around $200. If power constraints aren’t an issue and you’re okay with older hardware, you might spot RX570/RX580 cards on eBay for as little as $50 if you stay persistent. This is significantly more affordable than any CPU upgrade alternative.
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The_D3mon
06-15-2020, 07:59 PM #9

You understand that a used 9700K model usually fetches around $200. If power constraints aren’t an issue and you’re okay with older hardware, you might spot RX570/RX580 cards on eBay for as little as $50 if you stay persistent. This is significantly more affordable than any CPU upgrade alternative.

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iDeadlyRekt
Member
183
06-16-2020, 03:33 AM
#10
You seem uncertain about your decision if you're not interested. You’re trying to minimize costs while still aiming for features like HDMI 2.1 and Ray Tracing, but a 9700K offers no real benefit over your current CPU. It won’t solve the graphics problems you’re facing. You should either invest in a dedicated GPU or skip it entirely. Spending money on a second-hand 9700K won’t make much difference and might just waste your budget. Trust your judgment and avoid relying on others’ advice if you’re unsure.
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iDeadlyRekt
06-16-2020, 03:33 AM #10

You seem uncertain about your decision if you're not interested. You’re trying to minimize costs while still aiming for features like HDMI 2.1 and Ray Tracing, but a 9700K offers no real benefit over your current CPU. It won’t solve the graphics problems you’re facing. You should either invest in a dedicated GPU or skip it entirely. Spending money on a second-hand 9700K won’t make much difference and might just waste your budget. Trust your judgment and avoid relying on others’ advice if you’re unsure.