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Installation of two operating systems on a single machine.

Installation of two operating systems on a single machine.

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duskhammer57
Junior Member
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01-13-2022, 09:30 AM
#1
Hello everyone, I still use Windows XP for basic training with my mom and also just to keep things safe while playing Halo CE. Recently, since XP no longer receives updates, I’ve been exploring lightweight Linux distributions. Debian 7.5 has been my top choice so far, but I ran into some issues installing it on a separate partition. The bootloader, Grub, and Lilo both failed to install properly. I’m new to Linux and want to learn more because it seems more flexible than Windows (and not to mention MacOS). I’ve tried installing Lubuntu or Xubuntu but ran into processor-related problems. Now I’m thinking about setting up a dual-boot system with XP and a Linux distro like Debian or Lubuntu. I’m a bit confused about the whole process and would really appreciate some guidance to make it work.

First, regarding Debian’s problems, I’m not sure what’s happening.

Second, about dual-booting, I think there might be some configuration files or tools that handle the boot options. I’ve seen YouTube tutorials, but they often don’t explain clearly why they’re doing certain things or show poor-quality footage.

My setup details: Intel Pentium (m) with Centrino 1.4 GHz, 512MB RAM, 40GB HDD, Radeon 9000 graphics. Thanks in advance!
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duskhammer57
01-13-2022, 09:30 AM #1

Hello everyone, I still use Windows XP for basic training with my mom and also just to keep things safe while playing Halo CE. Recently, since XP no longer receives updates, I’ve been exploring lightweight Linux distributions. Debian 7.5 has been my top choice so far, but I ran into some issues installing it on a separate partition. The bootloader, Grub, and Lilo both failed to install properly. I’m new to Linux and want to learn more because it seems more flexible than Windows (and not to mention MacOS). I’ve tried installing Lubuntu or Xubuntu but ran into processor-related problems. Now I’m thinking about setting up a dual-boot system with XP and a Linux distro like Debian or Lubuntu. I’m a bit confused about the whole process and would really appreciate some guidance to make it work.

First, regarding Debian’s problems, I’m not sure what’s happening.

Second, about dual-booting, I think there might be some configuration files or tools that handle the boot options. I’ve seen YouTube tutorials, but they often don’t explain clearly why they’re doing certain things or show poor-quality footage.

My setup details: Intel Pentium (m) with Centrino 1.4 GHz, 512MB RAM, 40GB HDD, Radeon 9000 graphics. Thanks in advance!

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petegaming123
Member
127
01-13-2022, 04:25 PM
#2
Wow, very few views – that’s not great!
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petegaming123
01-13-2022, 04:25 PM #2

Wow, very few views – that’s not great!

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SparkingFires
Member
53
01-26-2022, 01:08 AM
#3
You could damage your device by burning a CD or creating a bootable USB, then redirect the boot settings to that drive instead of your DVD. Once you're running Linux, you'll notice a shortcut named "install linux <YourLinuxVersionHere>" on your desktop. Click it and follow the setup instructions. You'll likely see an option to install on another partition, so check that first and decide how you want your drive layout. I've used Windows 7 with Linux Mint 17 (Qiana) for dual-booting, and it's worked well so far. I suggest trying Mint (Cinnamon), but you'll need to set it up yourself. Good luck!
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SparkingFires
01-26-2022, 01:08 AM #3

You could damage your device by burning a CD or creating a bootable USB, then redirect the boot settings to that drive instead of your DVD. Once you're running Linux, you'll notice a shortcut named "install linux <YourLinuxVersionHere>" on your desktop. Click it and follow the setup instructions. You'll likely see an option to install on another partition, so check that first and decide how you want your drive layout. I've used Windows 7 with Linux Mint 17 (Qiana) for dual-booting, and it's worked well so far. I suggest trying Mint (Cinnamon), but you'll need to set it up yourself. Good luck!

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Cross_OX
Junior Member
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01-26-2022, 01:34 AM
#4
Identify the exact issues with Grub. Determine if problems occur during Installation Fail or after Booting. Versions of Ubuntu older than 12.04.4 lack support for PAE-enabled PCs. If Setup encounters issues, you can check the Install log on a VT device. Use [CTRL]+[ALT]+[F4] (or alternatives if needed) and share relevant log sections. Navigate back to the Installer via [CTRL]+[ALT]+[F1]. Ubuntu 12.04 remains a solid choice, performing well. The LXDE version with Lubuntu is recommended, and Mint also functions well despite using PAE kernels since version 13.
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Cross_OX
01-26-2022, 01:34 AM #4

Identify the exact issues with Grub. Determine if problems occur during Installation Fail or after Booting. Versions of Ubuntu older than 12.04.4 lack support for PAE-enabled PCs. If Setup encounters issues, you can check the Install log on a VT device. Use [CTRL]+[ALT]+[F4] (or alternatives if needed) and share relevant log sections. Navigate back to the Installer via [CTRL]+[ALT]+[F1]. Ubuntu 12.04 remains a solid choice, performing well. The LXDE version with Lubuntu is recommended, and Mint also functions well despite using PAE kernels since version 13.

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ditox95
Member
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01-26-2022, 10:07 AM
#5
If GRUB setup doesn<|pad|>, it usually indicates you're placing it in an incorrect location. To be safe, back up your current Windows system before proceeding. If you prefer more control, choose the manual partitioning option in the Kubuntu installer (similar for Ubuntu and Debian). Reduce your Windows partition, then create a fresh partition using the correct filesystem for Debian—NTFS won't work due to file permission restrictions. For beginners, ext4 is recommended. Also, indicate the root directory as "/". Allocate a partition for GRUB, which should be roughly one gigabyte. For the bootloader, pick a suitable partition when prompted. The remaining steps will follow naturally.
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ditox95
01-26-2022, 10:07 AM #5

If GRUB setup doesn<|pad|>, it usually indicates you're placing it in an incorrect location. To be safe, back up your current Windows system before proceeding. If you prefer more control, choose the manual partitioning option in the Kubuntu installer (similar for Ubuntu and Debian). Reduce your Windows partition, then create a fresh partition using the correct filesystem for Debian—NTFS won't work due to file permission restrictions. For beginners, ext4 is recommended. Also, indicate the root directory as "/". Allocate a partition for GRUB, which should be roughly one gigabyte. For the bootloader, pick a suitable partition when prompted. The remaining steps will follow naturally.

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toejamdaddy
Member
135
01-26-2022, 12:19 PM
#6
The setup process is what goes wrong, including the LILO issue. I’m unsure if I should pick Grub or LILO, or both might work together. My CPU doesn’t support PAE, so I’ll try that as well. After installation, I’ll make a large partition for the Linux OS and another 1GB for the bootloader. Once installed, I’ll be able to choose the operating system I want to run.
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toejamdaddy
01-26-2022, 12:19 PM #6

The setup process is what goes wrong, including the LILO issue. I’m unsure if I should pick Grub or LILO, or both might work together. My CPU doesn’t support PAE, so I’ll try that as well. After installation, I’ll make a large partition for the Linux OS and another 1GB for the bootloader. Once installed, I’ll be able to choose the operating system I want to run.

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Heyzer
Member
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01-26-2022, 12:51 PM
#7
When you launch your PC, GRUB typically prompts you to choose the operating system to boot. Additionally, during installation, there may be an option to specify the bootloader location. Ensure you pick the correct partition there; otherwise, the setup is likely to fail again.
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Heyzer
01-26-2022, 12:51 PM #7

When you launch your PC, GRUB typically prompts you to choose the operating system to boot. Additionally, during installation, there may be an option to specify the bootloader location. Ensure you pick the correct partition there; otherwise, the setup is likely to fail again.

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MilkShqkes
Junior Member
39
01-26-2022, 09:17 PM
#8
Grub and LiLo serve as boot loaders. A boot loader is software that loads onto the hard drive first when your PC powers on, handling initial setup and loading essential components. The standard Windows bootloader remains concealed, typically unseen. Grub or LiLo functions as the Linux equivalent. When installed on a Linux-only system, they remain hidden. However, if Windows is installed on a separate partition, these loaders appear after the BIOS, offering a choice between Windows and Linux. Creating a separate partition isn't necessary here—it's not UEFI-based. Sharing the installer log could provide further insight and help resolve your issue. (Grub/Grub2 refers to an enhanced bootloader; LiLo acts as a backup, less flexible than Grub.)
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MilkShqkes
01-26-2022, 09:17 PM #8

Grub and LiLo serve as boot loaders. A boot loader is software that loads onto the hard drive first when your PC powers on, handling initial setup and loading essential components. The standard Windows bootloader remains concealed, typically unseen. Grub or LiLo functions as the Linux equivalent. When installed on a Linux-only system, they remain hidden. However, if Windows is installed on a separate partition, these loaders appear after the BIOS, offering a choice between Windows and Linux. Creating a separate partition isn't necessary here—it's not UEFI-based. Sharing the installer log could provide further insight and help resolve your issue. (Grub/Grub2 refers to an enhanced bootloader; LiLo acts as a backup, less flexible than Grub.)

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Elleths
Junior Member
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01-26-2022, 11:04 PM
#9
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give Debian a try to check its performance. Just wanted to confirm it works better, thanks again! Lol.
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Elleths
01-26-2022, 11:04 PM #9

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give Debian a try to check its performance. Just wanted to confirm it works better, thanks again! Lol.