F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Instability in DDR5 RAM when using AM5 is a known issue.

Instability in DDR5 RAM when using AM5 is a known issue.

Instability in DDR5 RAM when using AM5 is a known issue.

Pages (2): 1 2 Next
H
herobrine3959
Senior Member
443
08-28-2022, 01:02 AM
#1
The optimal frequency for AM5 is around 6000MHz, but going higher can cause instability. These recommendations come from older DDR5 discussions, so it's worth checking current guidelines. You're planning a high-end build with a 4090 and considering either the upcoming X3D or the 7T7800X3D. You're evaluating two 2x configurations: one at 6000MHz CL30 and another at 6400MHz CL32, both under $10 in your region. Would the higher 6400MHz option affect performance? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
H
herobrine3959
08-28-2022, 01:02 AM #1

The optimal frequency for AM5 is around 6000MHz, but going higher can cause instability. These recommendations come from older DDR5 discussions, so it's worth checking current guidelines. You're planning a high-end build with a 4090 and considering either the upcoming X3D or the 7T7800X3D. You're evaluating two 2x configurations: one at 6000MHz CL30 and another at 6400MHz CL32, both under $10 in your region. Would the higher 6400MHz option affect performance? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

P
ProffesorFrog
Member
137
08-28-2022, 02:18 AM
#2
6000 CL30 remains the optimal range most of the time. A few individuals raise it to 6400, though this isn't common.
P
ProffesorFrog
08-28-2022, 02:18 AM #2

6000 CL30 remains the optimal range most of the time. A few individuals raise it to 6400, though this isn't common.

A
ADIR_4444
Senior Member
417
08-29-2022, 03:16 AM
#3
This applies to 4K as well; note that the kits come in 32GB each, doubled for dual units if relevant.
A
ADIR_4444
08-29-2022, 03:16 AM #3

This applies to 4K as well; note that the kits come in 32GB each, doubled for dual units if relevant.

O
Okunino
Posting Freak
845
08-30-2022, 02:36 PM
#4
Perhaps the problem stems from AMD CPUs offering two memory controller settings: 1:1 and 2:1. The 2:1 mode brings a big delay but lets you reach much faster clock speeds. On Ryzen 7000 chips, speeds over DDR5 6000 usually switch to 2:1 on most boards. You can force it to 1:1 manually, but only around half of the processors run at 6400 in that mode. For the Ryzen 9000 series, rumors suggest all chips should support 6400 at 1:1, though it hasn't been confirmed yet. It's unclear if makers will actually change defaults so 6400 always goes to 1:1, or if it'll stay on 2:1. Another point is that X3D chips aim to make memory usage less important, so even at 6400 1:1 it probably won't noticeably boost performance. TL;DR: if you don’t care, go with DDR5 6000.
O
Okunino
08-30-2022, 02:36 PM #4

Perhaps the problem stems from AMD CPUs offering two memory controller settings: 1:1 and 2:1. The 2:1 mode brings a big delay but lets you reach much faster clock speeds. On Ryzen 7000 chips, speeds over DDR5 6000 usually switch to 2:1 on most boards. You can force it to 1:1 manually, but only around half of the processors run at 6400 in that mode. For the Ryzen 9000 series, rumors suggest all chips should support 6400 at 1:1, though it hasn't been confirmed yet. It's unclear if makers will actually change defaults so 6400 always goes to 1:1, or if it'll stay on 2:1. Another point is that X3D chips aim to make memory usage less important, so even at 6400 1:1 it probably won't noticeably boost performance. TL;DR: if you don’t care, go with DDR5 6000.

Z
zMisterio
Junior Member
38
08-31-2022, 06:41 PM
#5
The resolution is unrelated to RAM speed.
Z
zMisterio
08-31-2022, 06:41 PM #5

The resolution is unrelated to RAM speed.

M
m4xesh3pard
Member
177
08-31-2022, 07:33 PM
#6
Thanks to both of you. I’ll keep using 6000mhz with 30cl. I’ll check later if they raise it to 6400mhz once the 9000x3d comes out, since I’m not in a rush.
M
m4xesh3pard
08-31-2022, 07:33 PM #6

Thanks to both of you. I’ll keep using 6000mhz with 30cl. I’ll check later if they raise it to 6400mhz once the 9000x3d comes out, since I’m not in a rush.

L
Larnyy
Member
62
09-01-2022, 04:55 AM
#7
Higher detail tends to ignore RAM limitations because the GPU usually runs most intense at that setting, freeing up the CPU. Still, it may affect frame stability across all resolutions, particularly during slower moments. As mentioned earlier, 6000 offers a safer choice if you don’t want to face complications, while 6400 models are often promoted by Intel and use XMP settings instead of EXPO.
L
Larnyy
09-01-2022, 04:55 AM #7

Higher detail tends to ignore RAM limitations because the GPU usually runs most intense at that setting, freeing up the CPU. Still, it may affect frame stability across all resolutions, particularly during slower moments. As mentioned earlier, 6000 offers a safer choice if you don’t want to face complications, while 6400 models are often promoted by Intel and use XMP settings instead of EXPO.

Z
Zak74
Junior Member
7
09-02-2022, 03:43 AM
#8
This model uses quality parts and could be overclocked later if future CPUs offer better memory controllers. A 30CL 6000MHz runs at the same speed as a 3200MHz DDR4 CL16/3600MHz CL18 setup.
Z
Zak74
09-02-2022, 03:43 AM #8

This model uses quality parts and could be overclocked later if future CPUs offer better memory controllers. A 30CL 6000MHz runs at the same speed as a 3200MHz DDR4 CL16/3600MHz CL18 setup.

K
KarlEmil77
Member
63
09-02-2022, 05:43 AM
#9
AM5 issues increase during attempts to use four pins instead of two, even at faster clocks. Weak memory controller performance is a contributing factor.
K
KarlEmil77
09-02-2022, 05:43 AM #9

AM5 issues increase during attempts to use four pins instead of two, even at faster clocks. Weak memory controller performance is a contributing factor.

R
Ricky2006
Junior Member
20
09-02-2022, 11:23 AM
#10
Got it through trial and error—four sticks aren't the best choice. I went for two bigger sticks instead, which turned out smoother. I wasn’t planning it that way at first since I didn’t realize it’d cause problems. Spent some time tweaking settings to hit 6000MT/s with Cl36 Corsair RAM and 6000MT/s speeds, using the right latency settings. Now it’s stable—hope it stays that way. I’m using an Asus Tuf Gaming B650 with Wi-Fi and an AMD 7900X CPU.
R
Ricky2006
09-02-2022, 11:23 AM #10

Got it through trial and error—four sticks aren't the best choice. I went for two bigger sticks instead, which turned out smoother. I wasn’t planning it that way at first since I didn’t realize it’d cause problems. Spent some time tweaking settings to hit 6000MT/s with Cl36 Corsair RAM and 6000MT/s speeds, using the right latency settings. Now it’s stable—hope it stays that way. I’m using an Asus Tuf Gaming B650 with Wi-Fi and an AMD 7900X CPU.

Pages (2): 1 2 Next