Inquiries regarding 10850k/Z590
Inquiries regarding 10850k/Z590
Hey, the original poster didn’t ask about alternative CPUs. Keep it real—don’t get too caught up in fanboy vibes. I’ve noticed my 3200G going up to 1.5v before, which made me nervous enough to share on the forum. So AMD isn’t flawless after all, huh? I’m okay with holding companies accountable for poor products, but this isn’t the right time or place. Just remember, both AMD and INTEL are mainly focused on profit, so stop being overly critical of them.
I believe he was just seeking a chance to advise anyone to go ahead and really take it. The 5900x might be better suited for running stock, but that’s all I’ll mention here. Regarding the voltage, 1.46v for single core is quite high even for a single core if the reading is accurate. At 225w under full load, that doesn’t seem realistic. Stick to careful testing of your current settings with @Mister Woof and @unclewebb—they know better than I do. Based on the silicon lottery, you could likely run around 4.8 at much lower voltages. In your case, you could try a -0.05v offset (or go with -0.09v, but it might be unstable when idle) or set a fixed voltage of 1.325v. According to the site, 10900k should work and run, though it may not be ideal if you leave it at stock. A bit of tuning could easily get you 5.0 or even 4.8 at a lower voltage. glhf.
They definitely aren't the best first or second generation Ryzen chips, regardless of the 7603. Even a solid 32-core processor would lose to a 5950x which has half the cores. If you're comparing Ryzen 1st or 2nd gen to Intel's 10th generation, just laugh at yourself since efficiency isn't the issue here. First and second gen chips aren't built on 7nm and they underperform significantly compared to modern Intel chips. You probably won't be able to use PBO on them either. Overall, they're nowhere near matching Intel 10th gen in quality or performance, especially at the same price point.
The Epyc CPU is specifically built for industrial or specialized applications, not for regular home computers.
More PCIe lanes are nice but CPU speed still lags behind a 5950X. If you really want extra lanes, wait for Milan to fully launch and see Rome prices drop sharply as more people upgrade to Milan. Used cheap Rome CPUs with lots of cores are still available on eBay, though most have already been taken up by collectors or overclockers. Even if not for regular buyers, building a system with an AMD EPYC is possible—just purchase parts from eBay. I found EPYC 7551 boards around $500. And please, let's focus the discussion away from OP thread.
I intend to customize this later on, mainly to check my current setup before making changes. For a Z590 motherboard, the one I have has four M.2 slots—three are functional and one is not useful because it's from a 10th generation CPU. The 10850K was a solid purchase; the board itself wasn’t great. This board offers most of the M.2 slots without issues and includes several USB ports: four USB 1.0, three USB 2.0, and four USB 3.0/2.0. I also have Wi-Fi built in since I haven’t upgraded my router yet. Since I’m not moving much after remodeling a 120-year-old house upstairs, I don’t need an i9 right now. The missing ports will be fixed soon, and I’ll upgrade to what I need. My old 6700K was pushed hard as a second-hand unit, making it the perfect time for an upgrade. It wouldn’t run unless overclocked, but getting a free CPU and board was definitely worth it.
Manually adjusting the settings will change the outcome. At stock prices, the motherboard tends to supply more voltage than needed for your sample to ensure compatibility with most devices. This extra voltage helps accommodate a wide range of chips, especially important for lower binned models like the 10850k and even more so for the 10900K. Performance differences are usually minimal unless you're spending a lot of time tweaking things for personal enjoyment. It's best to leave it as is, provided the core load doesn't cause excessive voltage or heat.