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06-16-2018, 05:56 PM
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alex_vampiru_2008 :
agentnathan009 :
alex_vampiru_2008 :
First, you likely need to turn on XMP if you haven't done so yet for your memory. It could have a different name than XMP, such as D.O.C.P when using an ASUS motherboard. Unlike the previous comment, your temperatures are acceptable. I would verify whether you have the most recent BIOS with the latest AGESA code for improved memory stability. The first generation Ryzen models didn't perform well above 3200 Mhz even with the latest AGESA code. Also, more precise timings (14-14-14... or in your case 16-16-16-36) tend to provide better RAM speed than simply increasing frequency. I opted for tighter timings above the memory's actual frequency. Usually, a voltage of 1.35 is standard, possibly slightly higher to 1.4 for stability. Additionally, I found a memory review stating that 3200Mhz could actually be faster than higher frequencies. I would increase your voltage and adjust timings slightly lower at 3200 Mhz.

Downgrading CPU speed to 4.0 might aid memory stability, but that remains uncertain. I’d probably overclock two cores above the current setting instead of all cores, or let Ryzen handle auto-clocking. I allowed Ryzen to manage it automatically and experienced better stability and a smooth gaming experience compared to manual adjustments.

Thanks for the assistance.

I own a B350 Tomahawk motherboard with the latest BIOS update. This PC handles everyday tasks well, so my goal is to overclock for enhanced gaming performance—not push it to extremes since I don’t play 24/7.

Concerning Ryzen Master, are you suggesting that auto-overclocking gives better results than manual? How did you configure it? Please note, I’m using a B350 and not an X470, so I don’t benefit from Precision Boost 2 (which I’ve heard is superior).

Also, regarding RAM, should I increase timings to 16-16-16-36 on the stock voltage of 3200Mhz, or should I raise the voltage slightly, like 1.36–1.38, just to avoid needing a CMOS reset?

Edit: I recently tried the Auto feature in Ryzen Master. The average clock speed is around 3950–4000, but CPU usage in PUBG spiked from about 20% to 50–60%. I’m unsure what to make of this—does higher voltage at 4100 on all cores improve performance, or is it better to aim for 1.4+ volts?

I’m also curious why you’re seeing lower CPU utilization when manually overclocking. Even with a first-gen Ryzen, manual overclocking provides Precision Boost, whereas auto-overclocking seems more refined. Overclocking two cores higher (e.g., to 4.0) might yield better results because it draws less current for CPU loading and leaves more headroom for overclocking, resulting in lower temperatures and fewer core constraints. Also, 1.375 volts is reasonable for a Ryzen. A voltage of 1.4 or higher is moving toward the upper end. I’m currently running around 1.325 with all cores at 3.9GHz on a Gen 2 2700X, and CPU usage is around 20–25%.

I wonder if you’d prefer to stick with manual overclocking for now, or try 4.1 manually across all cores, as that has worked for others. It seems Ryzen Master is more conservative to stay within thermal limits.

I’ll test the suggested timings after finishing this post. Thank you!

About CPU usage, I’m a bit puzzled too. I only tested it in PUBG and saw core activity across all cores, though with minor variations:

- Manual OC 4.1: Mostly 2 cores at 85%+ usage, others at 20–50%, but overall CPU usage around 25%.
- Ryzen Master on Auto: Around 3975–4025, usually staying near 3975, with core usage evenly distributed (55–65%), average CPU usage about 65%.

Given this, should I keep auto-overclocking for smoother gameplay, or switch to manual 4.1 for better control?

Or consider overclocking just two cores higher, say to 4.2k, and leave the rest at 4000–4050? You could try 15-17-17 and then 15-16-16. I found an incorrect Patriot memory listing.

I’ll stop short if Win10 is more efficient for multi-core CPUs than older versions. If you’re seeing higher utilization on just two cores with manual OC, it might be a thermal or load issue—some cores may be underutilized while others are overloaded. Do you use any apps besides Ryzen Master that are known to be game-friendly and minimize core usage?

Many users struggled to get 4.2 MHz out of first-gen CPUs without significant voltage boosts. First-gen southbridge boards were strict about memory, possibly explaining the lack of speed gains. Second-gen models offered better support for higher frequencies. I’d look into a frame rate app to see how your performance changes with different settings. CPU overclocking often gives higher frame rates at lower resolutions (720P vs 1080P). It seems you’ve fine-tuned GPU settings, which would have the biggest impact on frame rates than CPU tweaks.

I even play games on a single core (6-core SMT 12-core) while keeping the rest at the same time. That’s not possible with my old PC—Athlon 64 X3 Rana at 3.48 OC!
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06-16-2018, 05:56 PM #11

alex_vampiru_2008 :
agentnathan009 :
alex_vampiru_2008 :
First, you likely need to turn on XMP if you haven't done so yet for your memory. It could have a different name than XMP, such as D.O.C.P when using an ASUS motherboard. Unlike the previous comment, your temperatures are acceptable. I would verify whether you have the most recent BIOS with the latest AGESA code for improved memory stability. The first generation Ryzen models didn't perform well above 3200 Mhz even with the latest AGESA code. Also, more precise timings (14-14-14... or in your case 16-16-16-36) tend to provide better RAM speed than simply increasing frequency. I opted for tighter timings above the memory's actual frequency. Usually, a voltage of 1.35 is standard, possibly slightly higher to 1.4 for stability. Additionally, I found a memory review stating that 3200Mhz could actually be faster than higher frequencies. I would increase your voltage and adjust timings slightly lower at 3200 Mhz.

Downgrading CPU speed to 4.0 might aid memory stability, but that remains uncertain. I’d probably overclock two cores above the current setting instead of all cores, or let Ryzen handle auto-clocking. I allowed Ryzen to manage it automatically and experienced better stability and a smooth gaming experience compared to manual adjustments.

Thanks for the assistance.

I own a B350 Tomahawk motherboard with the latest BIOS update. This PC handles everyday tasks well, so my goal is to overclock for enhanced gaming performance—not push it to extremes since I don’t play 24/7.

Concerning Ryzen Master, are you suggesting that auto-overclocking gives better results than manual? How did you configure it? Please note, I’m using a B350 and not an X470, so I don’t benefit from Precision Boost 2 (which I’ve heard is superior).

Also, regarding RAM, should I increase timings to 16-16-16-36 on the stock voltage of 3200Mhz, or should I raise the voltage slightly, like 1.36–1.38, just to avoid needing a CMOS reset?

Edit: I recently tried the Auto feature in Ryzen Master. The average clock speed is around 3950–4000, but CPU usage in PUBG spiked from about 20% to 50–60%. I’m unsure what to make of this—does higher voltage at 4100 on all cores improve performance, or is it better to aim for 1.4+ volts?

I’m also curious why you’re seeing lower CPU utilization when manually overclocking. Even with a first-gen Ryzen, manual overclocking provides Precision Boost, whereas auto-overclocking seems more refined. Overclocking two cores higher (e.g., to 4.0) might yield better results because it draws less current for CPU loading and leaves more headroom for overclocking, resulting in lower temperatures and fewer core constraints. Also, 1.375 volts is reasonable for a Ryzen. A voltage of 1.4 or higher is moving toward the upper end. I’m currently running around 1.325 with all cores at 3.9GHz on a Gen 2 2700X, and CPU usage is around 20–25%.

I wonder if you’d prefer to stick with manual overclocking for now, or try 4.1 manually across all cores, as that has worked for others. It seems Ryzen Master is more conservative to stay within thermal limits.

I’ll test the suggested timings after finishing this post. Thank you!

About CPU usage, I’m a bit puzzled too. I only tested it in PUBG and saw core activity across all cores, though with minor variations:

- Manual OC 4.1: Mostly 2 cores at 85%+ usage, others at 20–50%, but overall CPU usage around 25%.
- Ryzen Master on Auto: Around 3975–4025, usually staying near 3975, with core usage evenly distributed (55–65%), average CPU usage about 65%.

Given this, should I keep auto-overclocking for smoother gameplay, or switch to manual 4.1 for better control?

Or consider overclocking just two cores higher, say to 4.2k, and leave the rest at 4000–4050? You could try 15-17-17 and then 15-16-16. I found an incorrect Patriot memory listing.

I’ll stop short if Win10 is more efficient for multi-core CPUs than older versions. If you’re seeing higher utilization on just two cores with manual OC, it might be a thermal or load issue—some cores may be underutilized while others are overloaded. Do you use any apps besides Ryzen Master that are known to be game-friendly and minimize core usage?

Many users struggled to get 4.2 MHz out of first-gen CPUs without significant voltage boosts. First-gen southbridge boards were strict about memory, possibly explaining the lack of speed gains. Second-gen models offered better support for higher frequencies. I’d look into a frame rate app to see how your performance changes with different settings. CPU overclocking often gives higher frame rates at lower resolutions (720P vs 1080P). It seems you’ve fine-tuned GPU settings, which would have the biggest impact on frame rates than CPU tweaks.

I even play games on a single core (6-core SMT 12-core) while keeping the rest at the same time. That’s not possible with my old PC—Athlon 64 X3 Rana at 3.48 OC!

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06-16-2018, 08:52 PM
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agentnathan009 :
alex_vampiru_2008 :
agentnathan009 :
First, it seems you might need to turn on XMP if you haven't already for your memory. There could be alternative names like D.O.C.P when using an ASUS motherboard. As mentioned in another post, your temperatures are acceptable. I'd check if you have the most recent BIOS with the latest AGESA code for improved memory stability. The first-gen Ryzen didn't perform well above 3200 Mhz even with the latest AGESA code. Also, tighter timings (14-14-14... or in your case 16-16-16-36) often provide better RAM performance than simply increasing frequency. I've also tried tighter timings above the memory's frequency—typically around 1.35 volts is standard, possibly raising it slightly to 1.4 for stability. I read a memory roundup suggesting that 3200Mhz could actually be faster than higher frequencies. You might consider increasing your voltage and adjusting timings slightly lower at 3200 Mhz.

Reducing CPU speed to 4.0 could aid memory stability, though this is just speculation. I'd probably overclock two cores above the base instead of all cores or let Ryzen handle auto-clocking. I opted for Ryzen master and achieved better stability with a smooth gaming experience.

Hello, thank you for your assistance.

I own a B350 Tomahawk motherboard with the latest BIOS update. This PC handles normal tasks well, so my goal is to overclock for enhanced gaming performance—not extreme settings since I don't play 24/7.

Concerning Ryzen Master: Are you implying that auto-overclocking gives better results than manual? How did you configure it? Since I have a B350 and not an X470, I don't benefit from Precision Boost 2 (which others claim is superior).

Regarding RAM, should I set it to 16-16-16-36 at stock voltage of 3200Mhz, or should I increase the voltage slightly, like 1.36-1.38, just to avoid resetting CMOS?

Edit: I tested the Auto feature in Ryzen Master. The average clock speed was 3950-4000, but CPU usage in PUBG spiked from about 20% to 50-60%. I'm unsure what to expect—does higher voltage at 4100 on all cores improve performance, or is it better to aim for 1.4+ volts?

I noticed you're seeing lower CPU utilization with manual overclocking. Even with a first-gen Ryzen, you get Precision Boost, but not the refined performance of the second-gen. Overclocking two cores might be more effective since you're drawing less current for CPU loading and have more headroom. Also, 1.375 volts is reasonable for a Ryzen. A 1.4+ voltage is moving toward the upper side, which could be beneficial. I'm currently running around 1.325 with all cores at 3.9Ghz folding@home on a Gen 2 2700X. Maybe CPU usage is calculated per active core rather than across all.

I tried 15-15-15 at 1.37 or 1.38 volts, and with your faster RAM, it should help performance during gaming, though to a limit. I'm leaning toward sticking with manual overclocking on all cores (around 4.1) if it's worked for you so far. Ryzen Master seems more conservative to stay within thermal limits.

I'll test the suggested timings after finishing this post. Thank you!

Also, regarding CPU usage: It's interesting I only tested in PUBG. Core activity varied—manual OC showed 2 cores used most of the time (85%+), while Ryzen Master stayed around 3975 with even distribution (55-65%). Overall CPU usage averaged about 65%.

Given this, should I keep auto-overclocking for smoother gameplay or switch to manual at 4.1? Or try overclocking just two cores up to 4.2k and leave others around 4000-4050? You could experiment with 15-17-17 or 15-16-16. I found some incorrect Patriot memory info earlier.

I'm still processing your post, but it seems Win10 loads multicore CPUs more efficiently than older versions. If you're seeing higher utilization on just two cores at manual OC, it might be a thermal or load limitation. You could try apps that are less CPU-intensive or use fewer cores.

Many users struggled to get 4.2 MHz out of first-gen CPUs without significant voltage boosts. First-gen southbridge was strict about memory, possibly explaining the lack of higher speeds. Second-gen offered better support and handled frequencies above 3200 more comfortably.

I'd suggest checking a framerate app to see how your performance changes with different settings. CPU overclocking often gives better frame rates at lower resolutions (720P vs 1080P). It seems your GPU is already tuned, so focusing on CPU tweaks might yield the biggest gains.

I even play games on one core while folding others—something I couldn't do with my old Athlon 64 X3 Rana core at 3.48 OC!

Sorry for asking another question, but this is my first time overclocking RAM. I'd prefer not to have to remove the battery again to reset CMOS.

In BIOS settings:
tCL: 16
tRCDRD: 18
tRCDWR: 18
tRP: 18
tRAS: 36

What are the recommended starting values and voltage?

Edit: Now I see the continuation of your post—I don't have any other apps besides Ryzen Master.
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06-16-2018, 08:52 PM #12

agentnathan009 :
alex_vampiru_2008 :
agentnathan009 :
First, it seems you might need to turn on XMP if you haven't already for your memory. There could be alternative names like D.O.C.P when using an ASUS motherboard. As mentioned in another post, your temperatures are acceptable. I'd check if you have the most recent BIOS with the latest AGESA code for improved memory stability. The first-gen Ryzen didn't perform well above 3200 Mhz even with the latest AGESA code. Also, tighter timings (14-14-14... or in your case 16-16-16-36) often provide better RAM performance than simply increasing frequency. I've also tried tighter timings above the memory's frequency—typically around 1.35 volts is standard, possibly raising it slightly to 1.4 for stability. I read a memory roundup suggesting that 3200Mhz could actually be faster than higher frequencies. You might consider increasing your voltage and adjusting timings slightly lower at 3200 Mhz.

Reducing CPU speed to 4.0 could aid memory stability, though this is just speculation. I'd probably overclock two cores above the base instead of all cores or let Ryzen handle auto-clocking. I opted for Ryzen master and achieved better stability with a smooth gaming experience.

Hello, thank you for your assistance.

I own a B350 Tomahawk motherboard with the latest BIOS update. This PC handles normal tasks well, so my goal is to overclock for enhanced gaming performance—not extreme settings since I don't play 24/7.

Concerning Ryzen Master: Are you implying that auto-overclocking gives better results than manual? How did you configure it? Since I have a B350 and not an X470, I don't benefit from Precision Boost 2 (which others claim is superior).

Regarding RAM, should I set it to 16-16-16-36 at stock voltage of 3200Mhz, or should I increase the voltage slightly, like 1.36-1.38, just to avoid resetting CMOS?

Edit: I tested the Auto feature in Ryzen Master. The average clock speed was 3950-4000, but CPU usage in PUBG spiked from about 20% to 50-60%. I'm unsure what to expect—does higher voltage at 4100 on all cores improve performance, or is it better to aim for 1.4+ volts?

I noticed you're seeing lower CPU utilization with manual overclocking. Even with a first-gen Ryzen, you get Precision Boost, but not the refined performance of the second-gen. Overclocking two cores might be more effective since you're drawing less current for CPU loading and have more headroom. Also, 1.375 volts is reasonable for a Ryzen. A 1.4+ voltage is moving toward the upper side, which could be beneficial. I'm currently running around 1.325 with all cores at 3.9Ghz folding@home on a Gen 2 2700X. Maybe CPU usage is calculated per active core rather than across all.

I tried 15-15-15 at 1.37 or 1.38 volts, and with your faster RAM, it should help performance during gaming, though to a limit. I'm leaning toward sticking with manual overclocking on all cores (around 4.1) if it's worked for you so far. Ryzen Master seems more conservative to stay within thermal limits.

I'll test the suggested timings after finishing this post. Thank you!

Also, regarding CPU usage: It's interesting I only tested in PUBG. Core activity varied—manual OC showed 2 cores used most of the time (85%+), while Ryzen Master stayed around 3975 with even distribution (55-65%). Overall CPU usage averaged about 65%.

Given this, should I keep auto-overclocking for smoother gameplay or switch to manual at 4.1? Or try overclocking just two cores up to 4.2k and leave others around 4000-4050? You could experiment with 15-17-17 or 15-16-16. I found some incorrect Patriot memory info earlier.

I'm still processing your post, but it seems Win10 loads multicore CPUs more efficiently than older versions. If you're seeing higher utilization on just two cores at manual OC, it might be a thermal or load limitation. You could try apps that are less CPU-intensive or use fewer cores.

Many users struggled to get 4.2 MHz out of first-gen CPUs without significant voltage boosts. First-gen southbridge was strict about memory, possibly explaining the lack of higher speeds. Second-gen offered better support and handled frequencies above 3200 more comfortably.

I'd suggest checking a framerate app to see how your performance changes with different settings. CPU overclocking often gives better frame rates at lower resolutions (720P vs 1080P). It seems your GPU is already tuned, so focusing on CPU tweaks might yield the biggest gains.

I even play games on one core while folding others—something I couldn't do with my old Athlon 64 X3 Rana core at 3.48 OC!

Sorry for asking another question, but this is my first time overclocking RAM. I'd prefer not to have to remove the battery again to reset CMOS.

In BIOS settings:
tCL: 16
tRCDRD: 18
tRCDWR: 18
tRP: 18
tRAS: 36

What are the recommended starting values and voltage?

Edit: Now I see the continuation of your post—I don't have any other apps besides Ryzen Master.

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06-17-2018, 06:24 AM
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alex_vampiru_2008 :
agentnathan009 :
alex_vampiru_2008 :
agentnathan009 :
alex_vampiru_2008 :
agentnathan009 :
First, you probably need to enable XMP if you havent' already for your memory. It might have another name than XMP such as D.O.C.P if using ASUS mobo. Contrary to above poster, your temps are fine. I would check to see if you have latest BIOS with latest AGESA code for better memory stability. 1st gen Ryzens didn't fair to well above 3200 Mhz with latest AGESA code. Also, tighter timings (14-14-14..... or in your case 16-16-16-36 might work) will usually yield better RAM memory speed than actually frequency increase. I have also gone with tighter timings above frequency of memory. Usually for that speed 1.35 volts is the norm, maybe edge it up towards 1.4 to find stability. Also, I read a memory roundup and 3200Mhz actually ended being faster than higher frequency memory speeds. I would bump your voltage and try a notch lower on timings at 3200 Mhz.
Dropping CPU speed to 4.0 may help with memory stability, but that is speculating. I would probably overclock 2 cores higher rather than all cores or let Ryzen master auto clock for you. I let Ryzen master do it for me and have had better stability and a perfectly fine gaming experience versus manual OCing.
Hello,thanks for the help
I own a b350 tomahawk motherboard with the latest bios update.This PC is a beast for normal activities,so i`m only looking to overclock for a better gaming experience,thats why i dont want to push it to extreme since i dont game 24/7.
Regarding ryzen master,are you saying i get a better overclock with auto than manual? and how exactly i set it to auto? Please consider i have a b350 and not x470,so i dont benefit from precision boost 2(which i heard indeed its better than manual overclocking)
Now regarding ram,should i push it to 16-16-16-36 on stock voltage 3200 mhz or should i bump the voltage a bit higher,like 1.36-1.38 just to make sure i dont need to reset cmos again?
Edit:i just tested with the Auto feature of ryzen master,average clock speed is 3950-4000 but CPU usage in PUBG spiked from average 20% to 50-60%. I dont know what to think of this,do i get better performance with 4100 On all cores but 20-25% utilisation or 3950-4000 but 50-60% CPU usage?
I find it curious that you are getting lower CPU utilization from manually OCing. Even with 1st Gen Ryzen you get Precision boost, just not the refined PB2 of 2nd gen Ryzen. OCing 2 cores for gaming may yield a higher overclock because you are drawing less current for CPU loading and have more available for overclocking and lower temps with fewer cores being pushed. Also, 1.375 volts isn't bad for a Ryzen. 1.4+ volts is getting on towards higher side of voltage. I'm running 1.325 or so with all cores at 3.9Ghz folding@home on a gen 2 2700X. Maybe CPU use is calculated on active cores and not aross all cores if less than all are being used?
I looked up your memory and you might try 15-15-15 at 1.37 or 1.38 volts. Having faster memory, which you have, helps with Ryzen system performance when gaming, though up to a point. I think 3200 was about the limit of worthwhile return. I would probably stick to 4.1 manual OC on all cores if that has worked for you so far. It seems that Ryzen Master is being more conservative to stay within thermal boundaries.
I will test those timings in after i finish writting this post,thank you for that !
Regarding CPU usage,i find it strange also.I only tested it in pubg,and i see core activity on all of them,but with some slight differences:
Manual OC 4.1: around 2 cores are being used most of the time 85+,while the others are at 20-50,but i see activity on all of them,overall cpu usage 25% ish
Ryzen master on auto: around 3975-4025,but frankly 90% of the time it stays at 3975,core usage are all about even at 55-65%,overall cpu usage averages at 65% ish
Considering this,should i keep it on auto to use the cpu more>>get smoother gameplay or
OC it to 4.1 as i did so far
or
Overclock only 2 cores higher,lets say 4.2k and leave the rest at around 4000-4050?
You may try 15-17-17 and see how that goes, then try 15-16-16. I looked up incorrect Patriot memory.
Well, I had replied further, but post got munched... Anyway, Win10 is more efficient at loading multicore CPUs than earlier versions. If you are getting more utilization on 2 cores at 4.1 manual OC than other cores it may be that you are hitting some kind of limit and CPU is being held back or something for other cores to be so lightly loaded but two cores being heavily loaded. Do you have any apps besides Ryzen Master that might be game aware and load fewer cores?
I think many had trouble getting 4.2 out of 1st gen CPUs without lots of voltage. 1st gen southbridges were picky about memory, which may be why you cannot get memory much faster. 2nd gen had better memory support and can handle higher than 3200 better.
I'd find a framerate app and see what your framerate is when you adjust various settings. CPU OCes usually yield higher framerates at lower resolutions (720P versus 1080P). It sounds like you have GPU dialed in, and that would give you the most difference for framerates versus CPU overclock.
I even play games on one core (6 core SMT 12 core) while folding on the remaining 11 cores at the same time. I could never do that with my old PC, Athlon 64 X3 Rana core at 3.48 OC!
Sorry to ask another question,but its my first time overclocking ram and i would like to avoid having to remove the battery again to reset Cmos
in bios i have the following values:
tCL 16
tRCDRD 18
tRCDWR 18
tRP 18
tRAS 36
What exact values do you recommend to start with and what voltage?
Ok, I would start with 15-17-17-17-36 at 1.4 volts and if you have instability, you may be stuck at your stock settings. It isn't necessarily that RAM cannot OC, but more likely Ryzen Southbridge can't handle RAM speed and timings.
I tried looking up reviews to see if anyone has gotten better than 3200 or tighter timings. Based on XMP settings that someone posted, it can do 3000 at 15-17-17-17-34 per XMP and each gets bumped up for 3200, 16-18-18-18-36.
Found this about that specific memory kit:
Series
Edition
Capacity
DIMM Type
Voltage
Tested Frequency
Tested Timings
Base Frequency
Base Timings
Tested Platforms
Feature Overclock
Viper 4
Black Sides / Red Top
16GB (2 x 8GB) Kit
288-Pin NON-ECC UDIMM
1.35V
PC4-25600 (3200MHz)
16-16-16-36
PC4-17000 (2133MHz)
15-15-15-36
Intended for Intel® 100 series platforms
XMP 2.0
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06-17-2018, 06:24 AM #13

alex_vampiru_2008 :
agentnathan009 :
alex_vampiru_2008 :
agentnathan009 :
alex_vampiru_2008 :
agentnathan009 :
First, you probably need to enable XMP if you havent' already for your memory. It might have another name than XMP such as D.O.C.P if using ASUS mobo. Contrary to above poster, your temps are fine. I would check to see if you have latest BIOS with latest AGESA code for better memory stability. 1st gen Ryzens didn't fair to well above 3200 Mhz with latest AGESA code. Also, tighter timings (14-14-14..... or in your case 16-16-16-36 might work) will usually yield better RAM memory speed than actually frequency increase. I have also gone with tighter timings above frequency of memory. Usually for that speed 1.35 volts is the norm, maybe edge it up towards 1.4 to find stability. Also, I read a memory roundup and 3200Mhz actually ended being faster than higher frequency memory speeds. I would bump your voltage and try a notch lower on timings at 3200 Mhz.
Dropping CPU speed to 4.0 may help with memory stability, but that is speculating. I would probably overclock 2 cores higher rather than all cores or let Ryzen master auto clock for you. I let Ryzen master do it for me and have had better stability and a perfectly fine gaming experience versus manual OCing.
Hello,thanks for the help
I own a b350 tomahawk motherboard with the latest bios update.This PC is a beast for normal activities,so i`m only looking to overclock for a better gaming experience,thats why i dont want to push it to extreme since i dont game 24/7.
Regarding ryzen master,are you saying i get a better overclock with auto than manual? and how exactly i set it to auto? Please consider i have a b350 and not x470,so i dont benefit from precision boost 2(which i heard indeed its better than manual overclocking)
Now regarding ram,should i push it to 16-16-16-36 on stock voltage 3200 mhz or should i bump the voltage a bit higher,like 1.36-1.38 just to make sure i dont need to reset cmos again?
Edit:i just tested with the Auto feature of ryzen master,average clock speed is 3950-4000 but CPU usage in PUBG spiked from average 20% to 50-60%. I dont know what to think of this,do i get better performance with 4100 On all cores but 20-25% utilisation or 3950-4000 but 50-60% CPU usage?
I find it curious that you are getting lower CPU utilization from manually OCing. Even with 1st Gen Ryzen you get Precision boost, just not the refined PB2 of 2nd gen Ryzen. OCing 2 cores for gaming may yield a higher overclock because you are drawing less current for CPU loading and have more available for overclocking and lower temps with fewer cores being pushed. Also, 1.375 volts isn't bad for a Ryzen. 1.4+ volts is getting on towards higher side of voltage. I'm running 1.325 or so with all cores at 3.9Ghz folding@home on a gen 2 2700X. Maybe CPU use is calculated on active cores and not aross all cores if less than all are being used?
I looked up your memory and you might try 15-15-15 at 1.37 or 1.38 volts. Having faster memory, which you have, helps with Ryzen system performance when gaming, though up to a point. I think 3200 was about the limit of worthwhile return. I would probably stick to 4.1 manual OC on all cores if that has worked for you so far. It seems that Ryzen Master is being more conservative to stay within thermal boundaries.
I will test those timings in after i finish writting this post,thank you for that !
Regarding CPU usage,i find it strange also.I only tested it in pubg,and i see core activity on all of them,but with some slight differences:
Manual OC 4.1: around 2 cores are being used most of the time 85+,while the others are at 20-50,but i see activity on all of them,overall cpu usage 25% ish
Ryzen master on auto: around 3975-4025,but frankly 90% of the time it stays at 3975,core usage are all about even at 55-65%,overall cpu usage averages at 65% ish
Considering this,should i keep it on auto to use the cpu more>>get smoother gameplay or
OC it to 4.1 as i did so far
or
Overclock only 2 cores higher,lets say 4.2k and leave the rest at around 4000-4050?
You may try 15-17-17 and see how that goes, then try 15-16-16. I looked up incorrect Patriot memory.
Well, I had replied further, but post got munched... Anyway, Win10 is more efficient at loading multicore CPUs than earlier versions. If you are getting more utilization on 2 cores at 4.1 manual OC than other cores it may be that you are hitting some kind of limit and CPU is being held back or something for other cores to be so lightly loaded but two cores being heavily loaded. Do you have any apps besides Ryzen Master that might be game aware and load fewer cores?
I think many had trouble getting 4.2 out of 1st gen CPUs without lots of voltage. 1st gen southbridges were picky about memory, which may be why you cannot get memory much faster. 2nd gen had better memory support and can handle higher than 3200 better.
I'd find a framerate app and see what your framerate is when you adjust various settings. CPU OCes usually yield higher framerates at lower resolutions (720P versus 1080P). It sounds like you have GPU dialed in, and that would give you the most difference for framerates versus CPU overclock.
I even play games on one core (6 core SMT 12 core) while folding on the remaining 11 cores at the same time. I could never do that with my old PC, Athlon 64 X3 Rana core at 3.48 OC!
Sorry to ask another question,but its my first time overclocking ram and i would like to avoid having to remove the battery again to reset Cmos
in bios i have the following values:
tCL 16
tRCDRD 18
tRCDWR 18
tRP 18
tRAS 36
What exact values do you recommend to start with and what voltage?
Ok, I would start with 15-17-17-17-36 at 1.4 volts and if you have instability, you may be stuck at your stock settings. It isn't necessarily that RAM cannot OC, but more likely Ryzen Southbridge can't handle RAM speed and timings.
I tried looking up reviews to see if anyone has gotten better than 3200 or tighter timings. Based on XMP settings that someone posted, it can do 3000 at 15-17-17-17-34 per XMP and each gets bumped up for 3200, 16-18-18-18-36.
Found this about that specific memory kit:
Series
Edition
Capacity
DIMM Type
Voltage
Tested Frequency
Tested Timings
Base Frequency
Base Timings
Tested Platforms
Feature Overclock
Viper 4
Black Sides / Red Top
16GB (2 x 8GB) Kit
288-Pin NON-ECC UDIMM
1.35V
PC4-25600 (3200MHz)
16-16-16-36
PC4-17000 (2133MHz)
15-15-15-36
Intended for Intel® 100 series platforms
XMP 2.0

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06-18-2018, 09:28 AM
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Question from alex_vampiru_2008 : "Help tightening ram timings at 3200 mhz"
alex_vampiru_2008 :
Hello,my pc specs are : Ryzen 2600x,overclocked on all cores to 4.1 Ghz, B350 Tomahawk mobo,gtx 1060 6gb GPU Oc-ed with 140+ and 500freq+,
2x 8gb patriot viper 3200 mhz 16-18-18-18-36 ram 1.35v
As of late,i`m trying to get more out of my ram,other than stock values but i dont know exactly what to do.
3466 1.35v doesnt post,3400 causes errors,3333 caused me a bluescreen after 1hour regarding memory,so as of late i switched back to XMP 3200 at advertised timings.All those tests were done by just ingreasing voltage to 1.37,nothing else
What manual settings regarding voltage,frequency and timings do i need to imput to get more out of my ram? Either tighter timings at 3200mhz or 3400 stable is the goal.
I would like also to not risk settings that straight-up dont let me POST,because No boot lockdown is fixed only by removing battery in my case,and that is a pain in the ass because i need to remove GPU also to acces it
https://imgur.com/a/3gWloTV
Readings on my ram done with Thaiphooner
shknawe :
I think you are at your max speed at 3200 with the 2600x. If you look up the msi web site for the motherboard,
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/...ort-mem-14
max speed is 3200 for the memory for that cpu. Quite frankly you wont see any difference from 3200 to 3400 anyway and why shorten the life of your memory just to say your memory is running at 3400? 3200 is already a screaming speed trust me.
alex_vampiru_2008 :
I dont like the timings on it,and i know for sure it can do better,so why not?
And max memory for tomahawk is 4000,not 3200
MAX for the tomahawk not your cpu. You are at your limits sorry. And remember the higher the speed the higher the timings and the worse the actual memory lag speed gets. Actually that motherboard is rated at MAX oc 3200.
• AMD B350
• Supports AMD RYZEN Series Processors and 7th Gen A-series/ Athlon processors for Socket AM4
• DDR4 3200(OC)+/ 2933(OC)/ 2667(OC)/ 2400/ 2133/ 1866
• * 7th Gen A-series/ Athlon processors support up to 2400 MHz. Please refer www.msi.com for more information on compatible memory.
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06-18-2018, 09:28 AM #14

MERGED QUESTION
Question from alex_vampiru_2008 : "Help tightening ram timings at 3200 mhz"
alex_vampiru_2008 :
Hello,my pc specs are : Ryzen 2600x,overclocked on all cores to 4.1 Ghz, B350 Tomahawk mobo,gtx 1060 6gb GPU Oc-ed with 140+ and 500freq+,
2x 8gb patriot viper 3200 mhz 16-18-18-18-36 ram 1.35v
As of late,i`m trying to get more out of my ram,other than stock values but i dont know exactly what to do.
3466 1.35v doesnt post,3400 causes errors,3333 caused me a bluescreen after 1hour regarding memory,so as of late i switched back to XMP 3200 at advertised timings.All those tests were done by just ingreasing voltage to 1.37,nothing else
What manual settings regarding voltage,frequency and timings do i need to imput to get more out of my ram? Either tighter timings at 3200mhz or 3400 stable is the goal.
I would like also to not risk settings that straight-up dont let me POST,because No boot lockdown is fixed only by removing battery in my case,and that is a pain in the ass because i need to remove GPU also to acces it
https://imgur.com/a/3gWloTV
Readings on my ram done with Thaiphooner
shknawe :
I think you are at your max speed at 3200 with the 2600x. If you look up the msi web site for the motherboard,
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/...ort-mem-14
max speed is 3200 for the memory for that cpu. Quite frankly you wont see any difference from 3200 to 3400 anyway and why shorten the life of your memory just to say your memory is running at 3400? 3200 is already a screaming speed trust me.
alex_vampiru_2008 :
I dont like the timings on it,and i know for sure it can do better,so why not?
And max memory for tomahawk is 4000,not 3200
MAX for the tomahawk not your cpu. You are at your limits sorry. And remember the higher the speed the higher the timings and the worse the actual memory lag speed gets. Actually that motherboard is rated at MAX oc 3200.
• AMD B350
• Supports AMD RYZEN Series Processors and 7th Gen A-series/ Athlon processors for Socket AM4
• DDR4 3200(OC)+/ 2933(OC)/ 2667(OC)/ 2400/ 2133/ 1866
• * 7th Gen A-series/ Athlon processors support up to 2400 MHz. Please refer www.msi.com for more information on compatible memory.

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06-18-2018, 10:15 AM
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Alex vampiru_2008 shared some insights on tuning. It looks like you're making several changes at once, but the impact isn't huge—just about 1% for Ryzen between 3200 and 3400. The situation changes after 2933mhz, where faster RAM becomes more noticeable. Don’t fixate too much on that detail; gaming performance will likely remain unaffected. Cutting timings at 3200 could help more than adding extra MHz with looser timing.

Your temperatures aren’t extreme, but they’re a bit high. Running Prime 95 small FFTs can help you monitor them. It might be that your voltage or clock speed is slightly off—check those values. If your readings with Prime95 stay under 80°C, that’s a good sign.

For both RAM and CPU, tweaking via BIOS should improve results. However, settings that suit one motherboard configuration may not work on another. You’ll need to experiment and adjust accordingly. This process requires some effort and testing—we can’t do it for you.
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06-18-2018, 10:15 AM #15

Alex vampiru_2008 shared some insights on tuning. It looks like you're making several changes at once, but the impact isn't huge—just about 1% for Ryzen between 3200 and 3400. The situation changes after 2933mhz, where faster RAM becomes more noticeable. Don’t fixate too much on that detail; gaming performance will likely remain unaffected. Cutting timings at 3200 could help more than adding extra MHz with looser timing.

Your temperatures aren’t extreme, but they’re a bit high. Running Prime 95 small FFTs can help you monitor them. It might be that your voltage or clock speed is slightly off—check those values. If your readings with Prime95 stay under 80°C, that’s a good sign.

For both RAM and CPU, tweaking via BIOS should improve results. However, settings that suit one motherboard configuration may not work on another. You’ll need to experiment and adjust accordingly. This process requires some effort and testing—we can’t do it for you.

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