I'm a simple, poor child who has saved some money, what should I improve first?

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I'm a simple, poor child who has saved some money, what should I improve first?

I'm a simple, poor child who has saved some money, what should I improve first?

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Coolcoral
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06-18-2016, 06:30 PM

#11

In your view, you should purchase only the 1TB NVME gen 4x4 SSD and keep saving for the graphics card, right? Also, no, I don't agree—using an SDD will help games load quicker and improve future performance, especially since your HDD is already full with 960 gigabytes.

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Coolcoral

06-18-2016, 06:30 PM #11

In your view, you should purchase only the 1TB NVME gen 4x4 SSD and keep saving for the graphics card, right? Also, no, I don't agree—using an SDD will help games load quicker and improve future performance, especially since your HDD is already full with 960 gigabytes.

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TommyTheLommy
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06-20-2016, 06:06 PM

#12

For games get 2TB (or 4TB) SSD instead.
It can be SATA SSD or NVME SSD. For games it doesn't matter so much.
If your HDD is siting empty and you're running out of space on SSD,
them move your user data to HDD
(like videos, photos, documents, game installs, archives etc.)
You were not complaining about game performance. Were you?
If game performance is fine, then current graphics card is fine as well.

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TommyTheLommy

06-20-2016, 06:06 PM #12

For games get 2TB (or 4TB) SSD instead.
It can be SATA SSD or NVME SSD. For games it doesn't matter so much.
If your HDD is siting empty and you're running out of space on SSD,
them move your user data to HDD
(like videos, photos, documents, game installs, archives etc.)
You were not complaining about game performance. Were you?
If game performance is fine, then current graphics card is fine as well.

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TheMiiki14
Junior Member

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06-20-2016, 06:31 PM

#13

I plan to upgrade to a 1 tb ssd nvme drive and save money by getting a graphics card. Upgrading to Windows 11 caused my FPS to fall from 240 to 100 in CS2, so I’ll also perform a clean installation.

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TheMiiki14

06-20-2016, 06:31 PM #13

I plan to upgrade to a 1 tb ssd nvme drive and save money by getting a graphics card. Upgrading to Windows 11 caused my FPS to fall from 240 to 100 in CS2, so I’ll also perform a clean installation.

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Taybaybay
Posting Freak

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06-22-2016, 10:02 PM

#14

It's easy to misinterpret Windows memory usage if you're not familair with the terminology. Of course I've no idea what games you've got loaded that might use "around 22GB of ram", but it's possible you've got more available memory than you think.
Using an old Windows 10 PC screen shot below as an example, at first sight only 112GB of memory remains 'Free', but in fact there's another 1816MB of RAM labelled 'Standby', that's avaiable for any program that needs it.
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how...ory-usage/
When Widows starts up, it often fills a good proportion of available memory with programs, to speed up loading times of programs like Word, etc.
The section marked 'In Use' (green) is the amount of memory being used by programs. The section marked 'Standby' holds programs that might be required, but this 'Standby' memory can be handed over to other programs on demand.
Admittedly this example is for a very old PC with only 4096MB RAM (4GB), but it shows how Windows can allocate memory on a computer with limited RAM.
On my systems with 64GB RAM, usually around 32GB is shown as 'Free' after starting, but on systems with only 8GB RAM, very little appears as 'Free'.
Check Resource Monitor (Memory tab) in Windows Task Manager and see what proportion of your 24GB RAM is displayed as 'In Use'. If you have a large chunk of 'Standby" (blue) RAM, you probably don't need any more RAM, but would still benefit from identical DIMMs, not 16GB + 8GB.
This is not a good idea. If you buy another 16GB DIMM, the timings will be slightly different and the resultant pair will be mis-matched, even if they have exactly the same part number. The two DIMMs will be from different batches and the memory chips will be from different bins.
Mis-matched DIMMs can cause system instability, especially if you enable XMP.
RAM should be fitted in precisely matched kits of 2 DIMMs or 4 DIMMs on desktop PCs, not individual unmatched memory modules.
It would be far better if you could persuade your friend to hand over the second stick of RAM for your computer and buy him some new RAM, e.g. 2 x 8GB. That way you'll both end up with matched kits and have less trouble running XMP.

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Taybaybay

06-22-2016, 10:02 PM #14

It's easy to misinterpret Windows memory usage if you're not familair with the terminology. Of course I've no idea what games you've got loaded that might use "around 22GB of ram", but it's possible you've got more available memory than you think.
Using an old Windows 10 PC screen shot below as an example, at first sight only 112GB of memory remains 'Free', but in fact there's another 1816MB of RAM labelled 'Standby', that's avaiable for any program that needs it.
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how...ory-usage/
When Widows starts up, it often fills a good proportion of available memory with programs, to speed up loading times of programs like Word, etc.
The section marked 'In Use' (green) is the amount of memory being used by programs. The section marked 'Standby' holds programs that might be required, but this 'Standby' memory can be handed over to other programs on demand.
Admittedly this example is for a very old PC with only 4096MB RAM (4GB), but it shows how Windows can allocate memory on a computer with limited RAM.
On my systems with 64GB RAM, usually around 32GB is shown as 'Free' after starting, but on systems with only 8GB RAM, very little appears as 'Free'.
Check Resource Monitor (Memory tab) in Windows Task Manager and see what proportion of your 24GB RAM is displayed as 'In Use'. If you have a large chunk of 'Standby" (blue) RAM, you probably don't need any more RAM, but would still benefit from identical DIMMs, not 16GB + 8GB.
This is not a good idea. If you buy another 16GB DIMM, the timings will be slightly different and the resultant pair will be mis-matched, even if they have exactly the same part number. The two DIMMs will be from different batches and the memory chips will be from different bins.
Mis-matched DIMMs can cause system instability, especially if you enable XMP.
RAM should be fitted in precisely matched kits of 2 DIMMs or 4 DIMMs on desktop PCs, not individual unmatched memory modules.
It would be far better if you could persuade your friend to hand over the second stick of RAM for your computer and buy him some new RAM, e.g. 2 x 8GB. That way you'll both end up with matched kits and have less trouble running XMP.

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ilycookie
Member

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06-23-2016, 02:12 AM

#15

I see but it seems to display 22 gb in use rather than standby since I had 5 apps and 2 open world games running at the same time. Regarding the RAM sticks, I’ve chosen not to use xmp and instead picked a 1 TB NVME SSD, planning to save for a 3070ti.

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ilycookie

06-23-2016, 02:12 AM #15

I see but it seems to display 22 gb in use rather than standby since I had 5 apps and 2 open world games running at the same time. Regarding the RAM sticks, I’ve chosen not to use xmp and instead picked a 1 TB NVME SSD, planning to save for a 3070ti.

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Jerryx01
Posting Freak

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06-24-2016, 08:02 AM

#16

I'm really frustrated! Using mismatched RAM can hurt your gaming experience, especially with more of it. A 1 TB NVME SSD works fine, but you should consider saving up for a better used GPU like the 3070Titanium.

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Jerryx01

06-24-2016, 08:02 AM #16

I'm really frustrated! Using mismatched RAM can hurt your gaming experience, especially with more of it. A 1 TB NVME SSD works fine, but you should consider saving up for a better used GPU like the 3070Titanium.

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Mordigal
Junior Member

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06-29-2016, 09:51 PM

#17

It's really funny. I'd never wish to take on debt. Yet living in poverty shouldn't stop you from making your own PCs, and you shouldn't have to ask wealthy people for help secretly.

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Mordigal

06-29-2016, 09:51 PM #17

It's really funny. I'd never wish to take on debt. Yet living in poverty shouldn't stop you from making your own PCs, and you shouldn't have to ask wealthy people for help secretly.

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TheSparklyOne
Junior Member

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06-30-2016, 01:02 AM

#18

I maintain an older PC beside my primary system to handle lightweight applications, which frees up CPU cycles and memory for heavier tasks.
I prefer retaining a few gigabytes of RAM if feasible, yet I managed to fit a Windows 10 Hyper-V VM onto a legacy Intel G3258 dual-core machine with just 8GB RAM—4GB allocated for the operating system and another 4GB for the virtual environment. It ran smoothly without issues.
There’s value in prioritizing what matters most to you and anticipating future upgrades.
Of course, optimizing game performance through XMP settings could boost frame rates, but a new SSD and GPU are likely to make a bigger impact than a costly RAM increase. Beyond a certain threshold, would you start to notice a noticeable improvement?

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TheSparklyOne

06-30-2016, 01:02 AM #18

I maintain an older PC beside my primary system to handle lightweight applications, which frees up CPU cycles and memory for heavier tasks.
I prefer retaining a few gigabytes of RAM if feasible, yet I managed to fit a Windows 10 Hyper-V VM onto a legacy Intel G3258 dual-core machine with just 8GB RAM—4GB allocated for the operating system and another 4GB for the virtual environment. It ran smoothly without issues.
There’s value in prioritizing what matters most to you and anticipating future upgrades.
Of course, optimizing game performance through XMP settings could boost frame rates, but a new SSD and GPU are likely to make a bigger impact than a costly RAM increase. Beyond a certain threshold, would you start to notice a noticeable improvement?

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MrMuncheyyy
Junior Member

3

06-30-2016, 03:07 PM

#19

I got everything and the RAM too. The RAM was swapped once I agreed to give my friend my old 1650, PSU, and an 8GB RAM stick, and he was open to giving me the other 16GB one.

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MrMuncheyyy

06-30-2016, 03:07 PM #19

I got everything and the RAM too. The RAM was swapped once I agreed to give my friend my old 1650, PSU, and an 8GB RAM stick, and he was open to giving me the other 16GB one.

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JakeTheTiger
Member

216

06-30-2016, 04:15 PM

#20

Was der Wechsel eines 1650-PSU mit 8 GB RAM auf einen 16 GB Gerät erfolgt?

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JakeTheTiger

06-30-2016, 04:15 PM #20

Was der Wechsel eines 1650-PSU mit 8 GB RAM auf einen 16 GB Gerät erfolgt?

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