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Identify issues causing random app crashes on your PC.

Identify issues causing random app crashes on your PC.

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vuro
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05-11-2023, 05:38 AM
#11
Your CPU is severely affected (specifically an Intel 14th gen model). The best way to resolve this is by slowing down your P cores. For me, lowering the 6GHz cores to 5.7GHz is sufficient. You might need even lower speeds—possibly all cores at 5.6GHz. There’s no advantage in going through a return merchandise authorization. I already had my first 14900K covered under warranty after it became unstable, and my latest unit also failed after six months. The new chip only uses the updated microcode, but it doesn’t fix the problems. I can still RMA it now, but the next one will likely fail too. If you reduce those two P cores from turbo to 5.7–5.6GHz, the crashes should stop—this points to a hardware fault. That’s the only real solution left. I’ve tried hundreds of troubleshooting steps by mid-2024, and this is the only path forward.
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vuro
05-11-2023, 05:38 AM #11

Your CPU is severely affected (specifically an Intel 14th gen model). The best way to resolve this is by slowing down your P cores. For me, lowering the 6GHz cores to 5.7GHz is sufficient. You might need even lower speeds—possibly all cores at 5.6GHz. There’s no advantage in going through a return merchandise authorization. I already had my first 14900K covered under warranty after it became unstable, and my latest unit also failed after six months. The new chip only uses the updated microcode, but it doesn’t fix the problems. I can still RMA it now, but the next one will likely fail too. If you reduce those two P cores from turbo to 5.7–5.6GHz, the crashes should stop—this points to a hardware fault. That’s the only real solution left. I’ve tried hundreds of troubleshooting steps by mid-2024, and this is the only path forward.

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Rosario17_
Posting Freak
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05-31-2023, 09:55 AM
#12
Consider trying a lower clock speed for all P-cores. It might be a better way to handle the problems without risking too much performance loss.
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Rosario17_
05-31-2023, 09:55 AM #12

Consider trying a lower clock speed for all P-cores. It might be a better way to handle the problems without risking too much performance loss.

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SlyxRy
Junior Member
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06-01-2023, 09:38 PM
#13
It's good to attempt it just to check if the problem lies with the CPU and might improve simply by trying this.
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SlyxRy
06-01-2023, 09:38 PM #13

It's good to attempt it just to check if the problem lies with the CPU and might improve simply by trying this.

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Machi_Gamz
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06-03-2023, 04:23 AM
#14
I tested both CPUs with only a slight reduction in clock speed, specifically lowering the two 6GHz cores, and they ran smoothly without any crashes. I’m unsure if performance will drop further, so if issues arise again I’ll know to try even lower speeds before investigating other factors. If reducing all P cores to around 5.5-5.4GHz still causes problems, it’s likely another component is involved. I haven’t tried running them below 5.7GHz yet—possibly not long ago—and still experienced crashes, suggesting the CPU design for 13th and 14th generations struggles above that frequency.
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Machi_Gamz
06-03-2023, 04:23 AM #14

I tested both CPUs with only a slight reduction in clock speed, specifically lowering the two 6GHz cores, and they ran smoothly without any crashes. I’m unsure if performance will drop further, so if issues arise again I’ll know to try even lower speeds before investigating other factors. If reducing all P cores to around 5.5-5.4GHz still causes problems, it’s likely another component is involved. I haven’t tried running them below 5.7GHz yet—possibly not long ago—and still experienced crashes, suggesting the CPU design for 13th and 14th generations struggles above that frequency.

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Zlapy_XD
Junior Member
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06-08-2023, 03:52 AM
#15
Executing at 5.5GHz across all P-cores now. I'm also testing games at the moment.
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Zlapy_XD
06-08-2023, 03:52 AM #15

Executing at 5.5GHz across all P-cores now. I'm also testing games at the moment.

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gaLact1cfLea
Member
194
06-08-2023, 11:37 AM
#16
It's good to hear it's improved! You're usually able to complete the test runs in about 4-6 minutes, but now you've managed a 15-minute session. That suggests stability has been achieved.
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gaLact1cfLea
06-08-2023, 11:37 AM #16

It's good to hear it's improved! You're usually able to complete the test runs in about 4-6 minutes, but now you've managed a 15-minute session. That suggests stability has been achieved.

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jerppu04
Member
68
06-09-2023, 09:37 PM
#17
I tested it and it seems to have resolved the obvious problems. Running at 5.5GHz with a lower clock speed might actually improve the CPU's longevity. I’m really hoping this brings me peace of mind for another year or two.
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jerppu04
06-09-2023, 09:37 PM #17

I tested it and it seems to have resolved the obvious problems. Running at 5.5GHz with a lower clock speed might actually improve the CPU's longevity. I’m really hoping this brings me peace of mind for another year or two.

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GamingPanda54
Member
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06-10-2023, 11:55 AM
#18
No certainty about whether the slowdown is limited to exceeding 5.7GHz or if it gradually reduces CPU performance over time. I maintain 5.7GHz because the system remains functional at that speed, even though it might eventually drop further. I plan to return for an RMA once noticeable performance drops occur. For testing, I relied on a simple overnight test—watching if the PC restarted upon waking up. If it stayed running without any restarts, it’s likely fully stable. Avoid relying on minor updates like Windows patches that could mislead you about stability.
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GamingPanda54
06-10-2023, 11:55 AM #18

No certainty about whether the slowdown is limited to exceeding 5.7GHz or if it gradually reduces CPU performance over time. I maintain 5.7GHz because the system remains functional at that speed, even though it might eventually drop further. I plan to return for an RMA once noticeable performance drops occur. For testing, I relied on a simple overnight test—watching if the PC restarted upon waking up. If it stayed running without any restarts, it’s likely fully stable. Avoid relying on minor updates like Windows patches that could mislead you about stability.

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Zeeeus_PvP
Member
156
06-16-2023, 01:25 AM
#19
It’s on my agenda to let it rest for a while. If 5.7GHz is fine for you, trying 5.5 could give me extra reassurance. By the way, do you have XMP turned on on your device?
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Zeeeus_PvP
06-16-2023, 01:25 AM #19

It’s on my agenda to let it rest for a while. If 5.7GHz is fine for you, trying 5.5 could give me extra reassurance. By the way, do you have XMP turned on on your device?

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Rok_ka
Member
146
06-20-2023, 12:24 AM
#20
I use AMD EXPO certified memory, two 32-bit DDR5-6000 CL30 modules, not stable for overclocking but works well as is. I previously owned a pair of 16-bit DDR5-6000 CL30 (identical speed and timing, just smaller) Intel XMP RAM, which didn’t improve CPU performance.
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Rok_ka
06-20-2023, 12:24 AM #20

I use AMD EXPO certified memory, two 32-bit DDR5-6000 CL30 modules, not stable for overclocking but works well as is. I previously owned a pair of 16-bit DDR5-6000 CL30 (identical speed and timing, just smaller) Intel XMP RAM, which didn’t improve CPU performance.

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