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i7 8700k 4,7Ghz MAX Turbo Limit

i7 8700k 4,7Ghz MAX Turbo Limit

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Mozzasaur
Junior Member
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06-04-2017, 11:32 AM
#1
Hi guys,
I have an intel i7 8700k installed on an ASUS Z370-E Gaming motherboard with a Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240 Pro AIO cooler. I attempted to run 4.7Ghz across all cores. I configured the VCORE to Adaptive mode at 1.2 V and set Load Line Calibration to 4. In Prime95 10 seconds, the test failed with a value of 4,6 and remained stable afterward. Checking HWiNFO shows "IA: Max Turbo Limit" enabled. No other events were recorded—no throttling due to temperature or power draw. The CPU temperature stayed below 79 degrees throughout the test. What might be causing the throttling to 4,6Ghz? I attached a screenshot from HWiNFO.
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Mozzasaur
06-04-2017, 11:32 AM #1

Hi guys,
I have an intel i7 8700k installed on an ASUS Z370-E Gaming motherboard with a Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240 Pro AIO cooler. I attempted to run 4.7Ghz across all cores. I configured the VCORE to Adaptive mode at 1.2 V and set Load Line Calibration to 4. In Prime95 10 seconds, the test failed with a value of 4,6 and remained stable afterward. Checking HWiNFO shows "IA: Max Turbo Limit" enabled. No other events were recorded—no throttling due to temperature or power draw. The CPU temperature stayed below 79 degrees throughout the test. What might be causing the throttling to 4,6Ghz? I attached a screenshot from HWiNFO.

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FoolishJ
Junior Member
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06-07-2017, 07:45 PM
#2
Is prime performance possible across all cores?
A 8700k with boost will operate at these speeds depending on the number of cores used.
1 core 4.7
2 core 4.6
3 core 4.5
4-5 core 4.4
6 core 4.3
If prime is only running on 2 cores, the CPU would default to 4.6 GHz during boost.
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FoolishJ
06-07-2017, 07:45 PM #2

Is prime performance possible across all cores?
A 8700k with boost will operate at these speeds depending on the number of cores used.
1 core 4.7
2 core 4.6
3 core 4.5
4-5 core 4.4
6 core 4.3
If prime is only running on 2 cores, the CPU would default to 4.6 GHz during boost.

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ClayFish
Member
52
06-07-2017, 08:18 PM
#3
Max Turbo Limit confirms you've hit the turbo limit you specified.
Which version of Prime do you use?
Is there an AVX offset configured?
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ClayFish
06-07-2017, 08:18 PM #3

Max Turbo Limit confirms you've hit the turbo limit you specified.
Which version of Prime do you use?
Is there an AVX offset configured?

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XxXTrexXxX12
Junior Member
13
06-07-2017, 11:45 PM
#4
My Prime95 version is 29.4 with an AVX offset of 0. The limit on all cores was set to 47, but it dropped to 47 for the first 20-30 seconds before going to 46 afterward. All cores are now running.
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XxXTrexXxX12
06-07-2017, 11:45 PM #4

My Prime95 version is 29.4 with an AVX offset of 0. The limit on all cores was set to 47, but it dropped to 47 for the first 20-30 seconds before going to 46 afterward. All cores are now running.

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karpitto
Junior Member
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06-07-2017, 11:54 PM
#5
nightmare392 :
My Prime95 version is 29.4 with AVX offset at 0. I've set the limit on all cores to 47, and they initially stayed at 47 for the first 20-30 seconds before dropping to 46 afterward. The performance was consistent across all cores. You mentioned setting vcore to 1.2, but your HWINFO shows 1.152. Would changing LLC to 5 help? Is there a significant drop in performance? How long did you run the program? I checked Version 26.6 as well.
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karpitto
06-07-2017, 11:54 PM #5

nightmare392 :
My Prime95 version is 29.4 with AVX offset at 0. I've set the limit on all cores to 47, and they initially stayed at 47 for the first 20-30 seconds before dropping to 46 afterward. The performance was consistent across all cores. You mentioned setting vcore to 1.2, but your HWINFO shows 1.152. Would changing LLC to 5 help? Is there a significant drop in performance? How long did you run the program? I checked Version 26.6 as well.

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master_scope
Posting Freak
794
06-08-2017, 02:21 PM
#6
My core setting is 1.2 adaptive, not fixed. I plan to adjust LLC to 5, though it could raise temperatures. I completed a prime run for roughly an hour. The same results appeared in a large FFT (512-4096).
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master_scope
06-08-2017, 02:21 PM #6

My core setting is 1.2 adaptive, not fixed. I plan to adjust LLC to 5, though it could raise temperatures. I completed a prime run for roughly an hour. The same results appeared in a large FFT (512-4096).

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Xiao_Star
Junior Member
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06-10-2017, 03:30 AM
#7
nightmare392 :
My vcore is configured at 1.2 adaptive, not fixed. I plan to adjust LLC to 5, though it could raise the temperatures. I ran prime for roughly an hour.
Any change in core voltage will affect the temps, as you understand.
It's odd that you're losing a bin without any power or temperature issues.
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Xiao_Star
06-10-2017, 03:30 AM #7

nightmare392 :
My vcore is configured at 1.2 adaptive, not fixed. I plan to adjust LLC to 5, though it could raise the temperatures. I ran prime for roughly an hour.
Any change in core voltage will affect the temps, as you understand.
It's odd that you're losing a bin without any power or temperature issues.

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Wipeouts
Junior Member
38
06-10-2017, 03:02 PM
#8
That is what i can't understand. There is no reason to throttle. Temps are good, power limit is not reached, vrm is not too hot to cause throttling. Maybe it's not getting enough vcore. Should i try to increase to 1.25V and see if it can hold 4,7? It seems a bit too much 1.25V for 4.7Ghz.
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Wipeouts
06-10-2017, 03:02 PM #8

That is what i can't understand. There is no reason to throttle. Temps are good, power limit is not reached, vrm is not too hot to cause throttling. Maybe it's not getting enough vcore. Should i try to increase to 1.25V and see if it can hold 4,7? It seems a bit too much 1.25V for 4.7Ghz.

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csige791
Posting Freak
818
06-14-2017, 02:37 PM
#9
nightmare392 :
That is what i can't understand. There is no reason to throttle. Temps are good, power limit is not reached, vrm is not too hot to cause throttling. Maybe it's not getting enough vcore. Should i try to increase to 1.25V and see if it can hold 4,7? It seems a bit too much 1.25V for 4.7Ghz.
I'd try upping LLC first.
Low voltage is my thinking also. Since your using Prime ver 29 which use AVX instructions, it may be dropping a bin. Normally this would just be unstable, though.
Have you set AC/DC load lines to 0.01?
How do you know that VRM is not hot? I wouldn't think that they are considering vcore, Just curious.
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csige791
06-14-2017, 02:37 PM #9

nightmare392 :
That is what i can't understand. There is no reason to throttle. Temps are good, power limit is not reached, vrm is not too hot to cause throttling. Maybe it's not getting enough vcore. Should i try to increase to 1.25V and see if it can hold 4,7? It seems a bit too much 1.25V for 4.7Ghz.
I'd try upping LLC first.
Low voltage is my thinking also. Since your using Prime ver 29 which use AVX instructions, it may be dropping a bin. Normally this would just be unstable, though.
Have you set AC/DC load lines to 0.01?
How do you know that VRM is not hot? I wouldn't think that they are considering vcore, Just curious.

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iRaine
Posting Freak
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06-14-2017, 03:53 PM
#10
The AC/DC load lines are configured at 0.01. Keeping them on Auto was triggering VR Thermal Alert and throttling, likely because the motherboard was assigning an excessively high value. I plan to adjust the LLC tomorrow after returning from work. If that doesn’t resolve the issue, I’ll attempt to raise Vcore. Meanwhile, I had to adjust VCCSA to 1.3 and VCCIO to 1.25 so my G.Skill 3200Mhz memory would function with XMP enabled. I gradually increased the values from 1.1 and 1.15 until I achieved stability in Prime95 (512k-4096K). The settings appear high, but nothing under these conditions worked consistently. The DRAM voltage is set to 1.35 via XMP. I tested 1.36 with VCCIO and VCCSA at 1.15 and 1.2, but it failed in Prime95. It has been running for two hours without errors now, though I remain concerned that the 1.3V VCCSA might be slightly too high.
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iRaine
06-14-2017, 03:53 PM #10

The AC/DC load lines are configured at 0.01. Keeping them on Auto was triggering VR Thermal Alert and throttling, likely because the motherboard was assigning an excessively high value. I plan to adjust the LLC tomorrow after returning from work. If that doesn’t resolve the issue, I’ll attempt to raise Vcore. Meanwhile, I had to adjust VCCSA to 1.3 and VCCIO to 1.25 so my G.Skill 3200Mhz memory would function with XMP enabled. I gradually increased the values from 1.1 and 1.15 until I achieved stability in Prime95 (512k-4096K). The settings appear high, but nothing under these conditions worked consistently. The DRAM voltage is set to 1.35 via XMP. I tested 1.36 with VCCIO and VCCSA at 1.15 and 1.2, but it failed in Prime95. It has been running for two hours without errors now, though I remain concerned that the 1.3V VCCSA might be slightly too high.

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