i5 4690k @4.5 or 4.7 atm or OC in the future
i5 4690k @4.5 or 4.7 atm or OC in the future
as mentioned in the title... which choice is superior...
and kindly read the full discussion!
considering the points: money isn’t a concern and it’s all about full gaming, nothing else.
now the situation will be similar: whether you choose an i5 4690k with a hyper evo 212 and not an oc (as I understand), or an oc when needed in the future... if CPU power is lacking for games... it might end up being around 4.2 or 4.3 because Egypt is already extremely hot.
OR
opt for more money—i5 4690k with a cryorig r1 and an oc, as I understand, and see the results for better gaming frames... oc at 4.5ghz or even 4.7ghz under good temperatures.
please note it will run on a seasonic m12ii 750w plus 80 bronze fully modular psu and an r9 390 or 390x sapphire, only on 1080p... not 2k or 4k due to the prices here...
The decision hinges on whether it's worth it, which depends on your perspective. Theoretical figures show the Evo offers 4.2GHz and the R1 4.5GHz, providing only a 7% improvement at most. In games, the gain might be around 4% to 5%, which is likely unnoticeable. Still, the R1 could run smoothly at 4.2GHz while producing less noise than the Evo—this might matter more to you.
If you aim for improved performance, then you choose the superior cooler. I'm not entirely clear on what you're asking.
If you're concerned about whether your power supply or other components will restrict results, don't stress about that. It's not an ultra-high-end PSU, but it's a dependable choice. If you're curious if the increased overclocking will make a real difference, the answer is likely no—it won't be a significant boost since it doesn't offer much in terms of performance gain.
If you're looking for improved performance, then you'll get a better cooler. I'm not entirely sure what you're specifically asking about. If you're concerned about whether your power supply or other components will limit the results, don't worry—this isn't a top-of-the-line PSU, but it's still a dependable choice. If you're wondering if the higher overclock will make a real difference, probably not, since it won't offer a significant performance boost. What I'm really asking is whether the price is worth it. Is it better to overclock when I get it or when I need to? I've spoken to many people, and the situation is still unclear, so I need to decide what to do.
The issue is figuring out if it's worth it, which depends on what you value most. Theoretical figures show the Evo offers 4.2GHz and the R1 4.5GHz, giving just a 7% improvement at most. In games, the gain might be around 4% to 5%, which is barely noticeable. You might not care about the difference between 50FPS and 53FPS. Still, the R1 could run smoothly at 4.2GHz while producing less noise than the Evo—this could matter more to you.
Your ability to achieve high clock speeds for a 4690K is mainly influenced by the luck of the silicon lottery.
You’ll typically hit your safe voltage limit of 1.30v before reaching thermal constraints.
You won’t see much variation in performance differences between multipliers.
A Hyper212 is likely the best option you can realistically use.
If budget isn’t a concern, go with an i5-6600K.
The 14nm manufacturing process should keep things stable, making it easier to overclock in warmer conditions.
Your chances of successfully getting a good i5-6600K chip that can be overclocked at around 1.40v are as follows:
4.9 – 3%
4.8 – 38%
4.7 – 70%
4.6 – 85%
I'm trying to understand what makes sense in terms of cost. Is there a better time to overclock compared to when I need it? After talking to many people, the situation is still unclear, so I need to decide whether to proceed or not. To be honest, I currently have a stable 4.7GHz overclock on my 4690K, but I don't run it at that speed while gaming. The difference in frame rates isn't noticeable, especially since most of the workload is handled by the GPU at higher resolutions and with ultra quality settings. At lower resolutions like 1080p, you might see minor improvements, but it won't be a big jump from 60fps to 75fps. I've seen examples online that support this idea.
For productivity tasks and content creation, such as video editing, I do overclock it because it helps speed up rendering times. As for cooling, since you're in a warm environment, a dual-fan cooler like the R1 would be a good choice whether you mildly or heavily overclock. Everyone's setup is different, so what works for one person might not work for another—your chip could be a solid overclocker if it handles voltage more efficiently.
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Adel_Yasser :
I'm trying to figure out what price increase is worth it. Should I overclock when I get it or wait until I need it? I've spoken to many people, and the situation is still unclear, so I need to decide whether to proceed or not.
To be honest, my 4.7GHz overclock on the 4690K runs fine without it, but I don't boost it during games. The performance difference in my games isn't significant since most of the workload comes from the GPU at higher resolutions (1440p) and with ultra quality + AA settings. At lower resolutions (1080p), you might notice a slight improvement in FPS in some titles, but it won't be dramatic—like jumping from 60fps to 75fps. See this link for more details:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8227/devil...i5-4690k/5
For productivity and content creation, like video editing, I do overclock it because it speeds up rendering times.
Regarding cooling, since you're in a hot area and likely have warm indoor temperatures, a dual-fan cooler like the R1 would be a solid choice, whether you mildly or heavily overclock. Everyone's setup is different, so it depends on your specific chip—your processor might suit an overclocker better than others.
If the price drop to under 2000 EGP (about 225 dollars) isn't too much, it might be worth considering. The person who suggested overclocking recommended an I7 4790K at 4.5 and 980Ti, which did show some noticeable gains up to 7fps in certain games.
So, is getting a K-series processor really necessary for future-proofing?
I'm thinking about sticking with the i5 4690 and 16GB DDR3 Kingston, or maybe the i5 6600 with 16GB DDR4 and Z170 motherboard. Alternatively, we could go with the i5 6700 and 16GB DDR4 and Z170. We only have one non-overclocking motherboard, which is the B150 MSE Pro VD. Is that enough for gaming?
Which option would you strongly recommend for heavy games like R9 390 or 390X, especially with 8GB VRAM? And considering the futureproof aspect, I'd lean toward the R9 390 because of its performance and memory capacity.
When playing in a hot setting, prioritize the most energy-efficient parts available. Think about choosing a solid i3 such as the i3-6320. It includes a decent cooler. Opt for a powerful nvidia graphics card like the GTX970 to handle 1080P gaming. Install an SSD for both the operating system and games. Select a case with strong airflow, ideally featuring at least two 120mm intake fans. If you go with an M-ATX motherboard, the Silverstone TJ-08E and PS-07 are great options.