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I need assistance with getting a new router, but there are issues with how it arrives at your house.

I need assistance with getting a new router, but there are issues with how it arrives at your house.

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dianarose32129
Senior Member
570
08-25-2020, 10:12 PM
#1
Hey there, I’m here to help with your network setup. After your internet upgrade, you got a fiber connection and a new router. The router they installed isn’t great—LAN works but is slow (around 900Mbps), while Wi-Fi is weak (30-50Mbps). It’s free, so you probably shouldn’t keep it. You want to upgrade to a better router with Ethernet input.

You mentioned finding converters that might work, but there’s another issue: your router has a phone output, and with the converters, you can’t use your phone or TV. You need a setup that lets you connect both Ethernet devices and still access Wi-Fi and phone signals.

For your current gear, you could look for a router that supports multiple Ethernet ports (like 4) and has an RJ11 phone port. A good option might be a router with built-in Ethernet ports and a separate phone jack, or a converter that lets you connect both your phone and the new router. If you want more stability, consider a dedicated network switch or a hub with proper ports.

Let me know what you find, and I’ll help you pick the right stuff!
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dianarose32129
08-25-2020, 10:12 PM #1

Hey there, I’m here to help with your network setup. After your internet upgrade, you got a fiber connection and a new router. The router they installed isn’t great—LAN works but is slow (around 900Mbps), while Wi-Fi is weak (30-50Mbps). It’s free, so you probably shouldn’t keep it. You want to upgrade to a better router with Ethernet input.

You mentioned finding converters that might work, but there’s another issue: your router has a phone output, and with the converters, you can’t use your phone or TV. You need a setup that lets you connect both Ethernet devices and still access Wi-Fi and phone signals.

For your current gear, you could look for a router that supports multiple Ethernet ports (like 4) and has an RJ11 phone port. A good option might be a router with built-in Ethernet ports and a separate phone jack, or a converter that lets you connect both your phone and the new router. If you want more stability, consider a dedicated network switch or a hub with proper ports.

Let me know what you find, and I’ll help you pick the right stuff!

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xAlphaLegend
Member
222
08-28-2020, 07:41 PM
#2
Inquire about their compatibility checklist for ONTs that support TV and phone while isolating internet capabilities to a distinct system. This setup is typical in most FTTH deployments such as FIOS.
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xAlphaLegend
08-28-2020, 07:41 PM #2

Inquire about their compatibility checklist for ONTs that support TV and phone while isolating internet capabilities to a distinct system. This setup is typical in most FTTH deployments such as FIOS.

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GameBoosh
Senior Member
470
08-30-2020, 06:25 AM
#3
Checking your Wi-Fi speed (2.4GHz vs 5GHz), wall materials, device-to-modem distance, and channel selection.
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GameBoosh
08-30-2020, 06:25 AM #3

Checking your Wi-Fi speed (2.4GHz vs 5GHz), wall materials, device-to-modem distance, and channel selection.

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TheLoneWolf09
Junior Member
48
09-02-2020, 11:01 PM
#4
Similar scenario. ISP cable modem for DOCSIS connection isn't great. Use it just as a modem and send all traffic through your router. I recently upgraded my router to a Netgear X8500 and it's performing well. Concerning Wi-Fi, several factors matter. Does it support 802.11g, n, a, ac? 2.4GHz, 5GHz? And what are the capabilities of the devices you're using? If your router offers solid 5GHz 802.11ac but your device only handles 2.4GHz 802.11g, it won't work well no matter what modem or router you have. Then you'll just be dealing with obstacles like walls and appliances, plus interference from neighbors' Wi-Fi. Many things are involved—do some research.
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TheLoneWolf09
09-02-2020, 11:01 PM #4

Similar scenario. ISP cable modem for DOCSIS connection isn't great. Use it just as a modem and send all traffic through your router. I recently upgraded my router to a Netgear X8500 and it's performing well. Concerning Wi-Fi, several factors matter. Does it support 802.11g, n, a, ac? 2.4GHz, 5GHz? And what are the capabilities of the devices you're using? If your router offers solid 5GHz 802.11ac but your device only handles 2.4GHz 802.11g, it won't work well no matter what modem or router you have. Then you'll just be dealing with obstacles like walls and appliances, plus interference from neighbors' Wi-Fi. Many things are involved—do some research.

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TempLate_YT
Senior Member
424
09-03-2020, 09:24 AM
#5
Im pretty sure it's 2.4ghz but the even on the admin site it doesn't specifies it, nor on the official website, my laptop and phone is 1m away from the router with nothing being between them. Channel is automatic and i checked the channels from my phone is looks to be okay, no seriuos interference. Maybe it's 5ghz because channel width is in auto 20/40mhz so it might be, but the admin site is really bad and i can barely change anything on it. H uawei HG8121H. Wifi is 802.11b/g/n, can't find it if it's 2.4ghz or 5ghz. Receiving devices are a galaxy s8+ and a lenovo y520 laptop, im pretty sure those 2 should handle more than 30mbit/s from 1m without anything between them and the router. The router is a Huawei HG8121H, i barely found anything on it. But im quite intrested in your solution, so i can plug in a decent router with an ethernet cable from the current ones output and it will work just fine? Is there a way to set my router so it doesn't interfere with the data just forwards it like a switch would?
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TempLate_YT
09-03-2020, 09:24 AM #5

Im pretty sure it's 2.4ghz but the even on the admin site it doesn't specifies it, nor on the official website, my laptop and phone is 1m away from the router with nothing being between them. Channel is automatic and i checked the channels from my phone is looks to be okay, no seriuos interference. Maybe it's 5ghz because channel width is in auto 20/40mhz so it might be, but the admin site is really bad and i can barely change anything on it. H uawei HG8121H. Wifi is 802.11b/g/n, can't find it if it's 2.4ghz or 5ghz. Receiving devices are a galaxy s8+ and a lenovo y520 laptop, im pretty sure those 2 should handle more than 30mbit/s from 1m without anything between them and the router. The router is a Huawei HG8121H, i barely found anything on it. But im quite intrested in your solution, so i can plug in a decent router with an ethernet cable from the current ones output and it will work just fine? Is there a way to set my router so it doesn't interfere with the data just forwards it like a switch would?

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Toodaloo_246
Senior Member
439
09-06-2020, 02:00 PM
#6
FTTH is essentially Ethernet. You might request your ISP to set up a rj-45 connection directly at your residence and eliminate the rest. (if possible)
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Toodaloo_246
09-06-2020, 02:00 PM #6

FTTH is essentially Ethernet. You might request your ISP to set up a rj-45 connection directly at your residence and eliminate the rest. (if possible)

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SlaRac0nte_
Member
217
09-14-2020, 01:22 PM
#7
You don’t need a 5GHz network card and no 802.11AC router.
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SlaRac0nte_
09-14-2020, 01:22 PM #7

You don’t need a 5GHz network card and no 802.11AC router.

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svenneke100
Member
64
09-14-2020, 08:55 PM
#8
There are some settings you'll need to change on the modem. - Disable DHCP - Disable NAT You will only want your new router providing DHCP and NAT. If you double up, you'll have network conflicts. Most modem/router combinations have the ability to turn on a bridge mode which usually turns off the above two by default. So worth checking out. Essentially, you have two devices in one. A modem, and a router. You want to turn off the router functionality as above and leave it as just a modem. This is quite a common approach given the shit quality of units most ISPs provide.
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svenneke100
09-14-2020, 08:55 PM #8

There are some settings you'll need to change on the modem. - Disable DHCP - Disable NAT You will only want your new router providing DHCP and NAT. If you double up, you'll have network conflicts. Most modem/router combinations have the ability to turn on a bridge mode which usually turns off the above two by default. So worth checking out. Essentially, you have two devices in one. A modem, and a router. You want to turn off the router functionality as above and leave it as just a modem. This is quite a common approach given the shit quality of units most ISPs provide.

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iNaseer502
Member
152
09-15-2020, 02:05 AM
#9
It sounds interesting, I’m planning to test it with my old router that offers 300Mbit/s wireless. If it performs well, I might consider getting a better one later. Appreciate the advice!
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iNaseer502
09-15-2020, 02:05 AM #9

It sounds interesting, I’m planning to test it with my old router that offers 300Mbit/s wireless. If it performs well, I might consider getting a better one later. Appreciate the advice!

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BlackhawkOz
Junior Member
36
09-15-2020, 01:32 PM
#10
This solution helped me. I’m facing the same issue and I need a Wi-Fi AC to boost my NAS performance.
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BlackhawkOz
09-15-2020, 01:32 PM #10

This solution helped me. I’m facing the same issue and I need a Wi-Fi AC to boost my NAS performance.

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