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I have queries regarding IBM Power PC design.

I have queries regarding IBM Power PC design.

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FireworkFlare
Junior Member
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10-30-2023, 12:28 PM
#1
I understand the context. Besides x86, architectures like Power PC existed—IBM used them, Apple did too, and even Xbox 360 supported them. Why aren't they common in modern PCs? Where can you still find them today (besides supercomputers and Sierra)? What advantages do they offer compared to x86? I wasn’t surprised by your questions.
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FireworkFlare
10-30-2023, 12:28 PM #1

I understand the context. Besides x86, architectures like Power PC existed—IBM used them, Apple did too, and even Xbox 360 supported them. Why aren't they common in modern PCs? Where can you still find them today (besides supercomputers and Sierra)? What advantages do they offer compared to x86? I wasn’t surprised by your questions.

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Max846
Senior Member
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11-01-2023, 10:21 PM
#2
Power PC resembles ARM, offering advantages from RISC architecture, though I don’t believe it’s commonly used today.
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Max846
11-01-2023, 10:21 PM #2

Power PC resembles ARM, offering advantages from RISC architecture, though I don’t believe it’s commonly used today.

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Gao135
Junior Member
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11-02-2023, 12:00 AM
#3
According to my understanding, it remains operational in a couple of supercomputers and certain IBM mainframes.
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Gao135
11-02-2023, 12:00 AM #3

According to my understanding, it remains operational in a couple of supercomputers and certain IBM mainframes.

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Spinetingling
Junior Member
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11-02-2023, 11:55 AM
#4
they belong to IBM's company
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Spinetingling
11-02-2023, 11:55 AM #4

they belong to IBM's company

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JONNTHENOOB
Member
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11-12-2023, 06:02 AM
#5
It isn't common in modern PCs because Apple, IBM, and Motorola chose to stop developing it as a consumer product. The final consumer versions were found only on the 7th generation consoles—Wii, Xbox 360, PS3—which used PowerPC. IBM's present hardware relies on Power ISA, an extension of PowerPC, which simplified things by removing x86's extra weight. This RISC design boosted performance. Intel eventually caught up with x86 and moved away from PowerPC. Since only Apple produced consumer devices, the technology faded in that market and transitioned to IBM's internal systems. Edited August 5, 2020 by BobVonBob fixed a thing
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JONNTHENOOB
11-12-2023, 06:02 AM #5

It isn't common in modern PCs because Apple, IBM, and Motorola chose to stop developing it as a consumer product. The final consumer versions were found only on the 7th generation consoles—Wii, Xbox 360, PS3—which used PowerPC. IBM's present hardware relies on Power ISA, an extension of PowerPC, which simplified things by removing x86's extra weight. This RISC design boosted performance. Intel eventually caught up with x86 and moved away from PowerPC. Since only Apple produced consumer devices, the technology faded in that market and transitioned to IBM's internal systems. Edited August 5, 2020 by BobVonBob fixed a thing

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Fergy04
Member
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11-12-2023, 12:05 PM
#6
It offers advantages compared to x86 yet comes with certain drawbacks. Running Windows on it demands compilation tailored for that platform, which involves significant adjustments and code optimization—something not justified given the limited market presence of those chips. If you're interested in deeper details, check archive.org for BYTE/PC Magazine or PC World articles about PowerPC and related processors. For more specialized knowledge, Transmeta's Crusoe architecture is worth exploring; it can emulate x86 and other designs. See their Wikipedia page and the Stanford course materials for further insight.
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Fergy04
11-12-2023, 12:05 PM #6

It offers advantages compared to x86 yet comes with certain drawbacks. Running Windows on it demands compilation tailored for that platform, which involves significant adjustments and code optimization—something not justified given the limited market presence of those chips. If you're interested in deeper details, check archive.org for BYTE/PC Magazine or PC World articles about PowerPC and related processors. For more specialized knowledge, Transmeta's Crusoe architecture is worth exploring; it can emulate x86 and other designs. See their Wikipedia page and the Stanford course materials for further insight.

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KrakenCraft77
Junior Member
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11-13-2023, 11:48 AM
#7
Hey @NZgamer, @mahyar, @BobVonBob and @mariushm
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KrakenCraft77
11-13-2023, 11:48 AM #7

Hey @NZgamer, @mahyar, @BobVonBob and @mariushm

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eral_miner
Junior Member
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11-13-2023, 12:25 PM
#8
I believe some older Macs had them, but those were the final models. The only option besides outdated iOS is to run Ubuntu. OwO – powerPC for Windows isn’t working at all.
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eral_miner
11-13-2023, 12:25 PM #8

I believe some older Macs had them, but those were the final models. The only option besides outdated iOS is to run Ubuntu. OwO – powerPC for Windows isn’t working at all.