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I have a really odd issue.

I have a really odd issue.

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TrashiestQueen
Junior Member
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07-02-2017, 09:19 AM
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One day my computer stopped working suddenly, the screen remained unresponsive and there was no blue screen of death. I unplugged it from the power source. After reconnecting, I attempted to start it again. The display showed no output, the CPU indicator was red, and the RAM LEDs were yellow. I disassembled the entire system, reassembling it carefully to ensure everything was intact. When I powered it back on, only the memory-related LED remained active. I removed the second set of RAM modules in slots 2 and 4, and the PC started without issues. This was unusual because the machine seemed stable with all RAM slots filled before the crash. When I tried booting with all modules properly seated, it still wouldn’t start. I considered swapping the RAM sticks into different slots to test if this would resolve the issue. Eventually, I found that rearranging the RAM modules helped the system launch correctly. This change resolved the problem, though I’m still unsure why it worked so well after the swap.

Specs:
i7-7700K - running at base clock 4.2
32 GB - two unmatched pairs, one rated for 2133 and the other for 2400, functioning properly with XMP at 2400
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TrashiestQueen
07-02-2017, 09:19 AM #1

One day my computer stopped working suddenly, the screen remained unresponsive and there was no blue screen of death. I unplugged it from the power source. After reconnecting, I attempted to start it again. The display showed no output, the CPU indicator was red, and the RAM LEDs were yellow. I disassembled the entire system, reassembling it carefully to ensure everything was intact. When I powered it back on, only the memory-related LED remained active. I removed the second set of RAM modules in slots 2 and 4, and the PC started without issues. This was unusual because the machine seemed stable with all RAM slots filled before the crash. When I tried booting with all modules properly seated, it still wouldn’t start. I considered swapping the RAM sticks into different slots to test if this would resolve the issue. Eventually, I found that rearranging the RAM modules helped the system launch correctly. This change resolved the problem, though I’m still unsure why it worked so well after the swap.

Specs:
i7-7700K - running at base clock 4.2
32 GB - two unmatched pairs, one rated for 2133 and the other for 2400, functioning properly with XMP at 2400

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Arew123102
Junior Member
2
07-04-2017, 12:11 AM
#2
Inspect Event Viewer for event codes to understand system logs. Reliability History may provide helpful details. Recommend running memtest to check for errors.
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Arew123102
07-04-2017, 12:11 AM #2

Inspect Event Viewer for event codes to understand system logs. Reliability History may provide helpful details. Recommend running memtest to check for errors.

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MrPlywaczek
Junior Member
15
07-04-2017, 12:46 AM
#3
There are roughly 4000 error codes and 18000 warnings in the event viewer. The memtest passed without issues. Could you suggest other options?
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MrPlywaczek
07-04-2017, 12:46 AM #3

There are roughly 4000 error codes and 18000 warnings in the event viewer. The memtest passed without issues. Could you suggest other options?

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FlappyLegend
Junior Member
5
07-04-2017, 08:18 AM
#4
Critical and Error are the areas you should focus on most. Obtain another device, like another computer or phone, and observe the PC's activities. Use memtest86 as it offers a more detailed troubleshooting tool. It would also be wise to load CPU-Z and inspect the SPD screen for each stick. Capture a screenshot or photo of the JEDEC/XMP timings and attempt to manually adjust the speeds so they align, if feasible. If your RAM is running at 2400 that is rated for 2133, it could definitely lead to errors. Memory issues, over time, may result in OS corruption. You might also consider running SFC/DISM to check for improvements.
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FlappyLegend
07-04-2017, 08:18 AM #4

Critical and Error are the areas you should focus on most. Obtain another device, like another computer or phone, and observe the PC's activities. Use memtest86 as it offers a more detailed troubleshooting tool. It would also be wise to load CPU-Z and inspect the SPD screen for each stick. Capture a screenshot or photo of the JEDEC/XMP timings and attempt to manually adjust the speeds so they align, if feasible. If your RAM is running at 2400 that is rated for 2133, it could definitely lead to errors. Memory issues, over time, may result in OS corruption. You might also consider running SFC/DISM to check for improvements.

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lars0100
Member
70
07-04-2017, 12:12 PM
#5
Check the SPD report for the first pair and follow the instructions in the bios to match the settings. For the second pair, ensure consistency and note that program hanging remained unaffected after disabling XMP.
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lars0100
07-04-2017, 12:12 PM #5

Check the SPD report for the first pair and follow the instructions in the bios to match the settings. For the second pair, ensure consistency and note that program hanging remained unaffected after disabling XMP.

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I_mex380_I
Member
200
07-04-2017, 01:15 PM
#6
This was my initial assumption about the issues. Upgrading only high-end RAM isn't ideal; simply increasing the speed of 2133 MHz isn't a great solution. These RAM sets don't really complement each other well.
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I_mex380_I
07-04-2017, 01:15 PM #6

This was my initial assumption about the issues. Upgrading only high-end RAM isn't ideal; simply increasing the speed of 2133 MHz isn't a great solution. These RAM sets don't really complement each other well.

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funnie_boy
Junior Member
7
07-08-2017, 01:29 AM
#7
I thought so, but before that sudden hard crash, everything ran smoothly, and I was really happy. Now, games load 50% slower, it feels like.
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funnie_boy
07-08-2017, 01:29 AM #7

I thought so, but before that sudden hard crash, everything ran smoothly, and I was really happy. Now, games load 50% slower, it feels like.

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Binteufel13
Member
62
07-09-2017, 08:26 AM
#8
Specifically, the intervals between them are quite far apart. I'm puzzled how the system managed to train something that works for both installed simultaneously. I believe the 3200 model is quicker than the 7700K can handle, and anything above 2400 seems to be a custom build. Considering the lower spec of the "smaller" kit and its target speed, I think I should look into those again and consider the 3200 for future use or sale.
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Binteufel13
07-09-2017, 08:26 AM #8

Specifically, the intervals between them are quite far apart. I'm puzzled how the system managed to train something that works for both installed simultaneously. I believe the 3200 model is quicker than the 7700K can handle, and anything above 2400 seems to be a custom build. Considering the lower spec of the "smaller" kit and its target speed, I think I should look into those again and consider the 3200 for future use or sale.

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ThatFNaFGamer
Member
139
07-10-2017, 04:16 AM
#9
Thanks for coming, but I need to use every stick I have. I can't just sell it and get a new one. And as you mentioned, things were fine until recently, for a whole year.
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ThatFNaFGamer
07-10-2017, 04:16 AM #9

Thanks for coming, but I need to use every stick I have. I can't just sell it and get a new one. And as you mentioned, things were fine until recently, for a whole year.

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Lucianyourgod
Member
134
07-16-2017, 08:39 PM
#10
Hi, there mate, I hope you've fixed your problem. If not, it looks like the RAM sticks might be the issue, even if they didn't fail before. It seems someone mentioned messages above, but the RAM OC could be causing the stick to slowly degrade. Software tests don't always catch real problems, and using a bad component can lead to other parts failing too. I recommend checking which stick is causing the problem—either remove them one by one or test each individually in each slot. You should see one or two sticks booting slowly or not at all. You said you can't just replace the faulty one, but having a bad part cause the whole system to fail means more components might go wrong. Just take out the bad one and buy a new one. Make sure to keep all components at the same frequency; don't overclock them, as it might not give big improvements. The 2100 to 2400 range won't make much of a difference—it's still within the same ballpark, just a slight drop in FPS.
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Lucianyourgod
07-16-2017, 08:39 PM #10

Hi, there mate, I hope you've fixed your problem. If not, it looks like the RAM sticks might be the issue, even if they didn't fail before. It seems someone mentioned messages above, but the RAM OC could be causing the stick to slowly degrade. Software tests don't always catch real problems, and using a bad component can lead to other parts failing too. I recommend checking which stick is causing the problem—either remove them one by one or test each individually in each slot. You should see one or two sticks booting slowly or not at all. You said you can't just replace the faulty one, but having a bad part cause the whole system to fail means more components might go wrong. Just take out the bad one and buy a new one. Make sure to keep all components at the same frequency; don't overclock them, as it might not give big improvements. The 2100 to 2400 range won't make much of a difference—it's still within the same ballpark, just a slight drop in FPS.

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