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I don’t understand the required processor yet.

I don’t understand the required processor yet.

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_HardGamer_
Member
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07-29-2023, 03:23 AM
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Hey everyone, I’m getting ready to assemble my first PC and honestly can’t figure out where to start with the CPU requirements. My initial picks are:

- CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K at 3.4 GHz, 16-core processor
- Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK (68.99 CFM)
- Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B760M-PLUS WIFI II (Micro ATX, LGA1700)
- RAM: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40
- Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVMe SSD
- Graphics: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti (16 GB)
- Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower
- Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023), 850W, 80+ Gold certified, fully modular

Except for the RTX 4070 Ti, I’m considering a mid-tower case and a Micro ATX motherboard—just big enough to fit.

To sum up, I’m not sure how much CPU power I’ll actually need. I’m open to both AMD and Intel options. My usage will be mostly online browsing, streaming videos, and watching content with lots of tabs open. I’ll be doing moderate gaming occasionally—mostly older titles like StarCraft, Halo MCC, pre-2010 COD, Battlefield, and Hades. I’m also interested in trying newer games like Halo Infinite, but I want them to look great on 4K at 144Hz.

I’m also using AI tools for things like Stable Diffusion, local LLMs, and text-to-speech. It seems like my main need is a solid GPU for those tasks, not necessarily a high-end CPU. I’m curious if running most of my apps single-threaded will matter much, and whether an integrated graphics card would be enough.

Lastly, I’m thinking about using two monitors—just in case the GPU fails or I want extra display power. Would having an iGPU help or hurt things? And what about choosing an i5/Ryzen 5 or 7 versus an i9/Ryzen 9? I don’t need the top-end models, just something that’s not too bulky.

Thanks for your help—I’m a bit overwhelmed by all this info!
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_HardGamer_
07-29-2023, 03:23 AM #1

Hey everyone, I’m getting ready to assemble my first PC and honestly can’t figure out where to start with the CPU requirements. My initial picks are:

- CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K at 3.4 GHz, 16-core processor
- Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK (68.99 CFM)
- Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B760M-PLUS WIFI II (Micro ATX, LGA1700)
- RAM: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5200 CL40
- Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVMe SSD
- Graphics: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti (16 GB)
- Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower
- Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023), 850W, 80+ Gold certified, fully modular

Except for the RTX 4070 Ti, I’m considering a mid-tower case and a Micro ATX motherboard—just big enough to fit.

To sum up, I’m not sure how much CPU power I’ll actually need. I’m open to both AMD and Intel options. My usage will be mostly online browsing, streaming videos, and watching content with lots of tabs open. I’ll be doing moderate gaming occasionally—mostly older titles like StarCraft, Halo MCC, pre-2010 COD, Battlefield, and Hades. I’m also interested in trying newer games like Halo Infinite, but I want them to look great on 4K at 144Hz.

I’m also using AI tools for things like Stable Diffusion, local LLMs, and text-to-speech. It seems like my main need is a solid GPU for those tasks, not necessarily a high-end CPU. I’m curious if running most of my apps single-threaded will matter much, and whether an integrated graphics card would be enough.

Lastly, I’m thinking about using two monitors—just in case the GPU fails or I want extra display power. Would having an iGPU help or hurt things? And what about choosing an i5/Ryzen 5 or 7 versus an i9/Ryzen 9? I don’t need the top-end models, just something that’s not too bulky.

Thanks for your help—I’m a bit overwhelmed by all this info!

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xXFirewitherXx
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08-14-2023, 04:44 PM
#2
For this price, the 7800X3D offers significant advantages—it's considered the top gaming CPU and consumes much less power. However, it falls short compared to the 13700K in AI training performance. Having an integrated GPU without using it won't affect results, but it can help with troubleshooting.
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xXFirewitherXx
08-14-2023, 04:44 PM #2

For this price, the 7800X3D offers significant advantages—it's considered the top gaming CPU and consumes much less power. However, it falls short compared to the 13700K in AI training performance. Having an integrated GPU without using it won't affect results, but it can help with troubleshooting.

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DeathBeastDB
Senior Member
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08-14-2023, 06:42 PM
#3
For a 99% web browsing setup, Intel offers the iGPU which significantly boosts performance while reducing power consumption. Its quicksync technology is impressive right now. You can also use it to stream game recordings, giving you extra space for the GPU. In my view, its appearance surpasses that of AMD and Nvidia's designs.
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DeathBeastDB
08-14-2023, 06:42 PM #3

For a 99% web browsing setup, Intel offers the iGPU which significantly boosts performance while reducing power consumption. Its quicksync technology is impressive right now. You can also use it to stream game recordings, giving you extra space for the GPU. In my view, its appearance surpasses that of AMD and Nvidia's designs.

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ghall2499
Member
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08-15-2023, 12:56 AM
#4
AMD's 7000 line now includes an integrated graphics processor in every CPU, matching Intel's setup. For Zen 3 and earlier, only CPUs named with 'G' had integrated graphics. This isn't a big deal because the built-in GPU isn't needed unless you connect your monitor directly to it. In typical desktop scenarios, the GPU consumes minimal energy already.
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ghall2499
08-15-2023, 12:56 AM #4

AMD's 7000 line now includes an integrated graphics processor in every CPU, matching Intel's setup. For Zen 3 and earlier, only CPUs named with 'G' had integrated graphics. This isn't a big deal because the built-in GPU isn't needed unless you connect your monitor directly to it. In typical desktop scenarios, the GPU consumes minimal energy already.

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Hermitt
Member
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08-15-2023, 03:03 AM
#5
That makes sense, switching to an i7 seems justified. Using the iGPU for secondary displays or recording adds extra demand.
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Hermitt
08-15-2023, 03:03 AM #5

That makes sense, switching to an i7 seems justified. Using the iGPU for secondary displays or recording adds extra demand.

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Itz_Seby_PvP
Member
102
08-30-2023, 02:52 AM
#6
I could possibly use it for a second monitor, but that seems more like a reason to get an integrated GPU with a dedicated GPU. Or I might just avoid it entirely, keeping it only for backup and troubleshooting. It's unclear whether using the iGPU for a second display offers any real advantage.
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Itz_Seby_PvP
08-30-2023, 02:52 AM #6

I could possibly use it for a second monitor, but that seems more like a reason to get an integrated GPU with a dedicated GPU. Or I might just avoid it entirely, keeping it only for backup and troubleshooting. It's unclear whether using the iGPU for a second display offers any real advantage.

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avi15
Member
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09-02-2023, 05:37 PM
#7
You're mainly on the web and play some games, with a bit of AI work. The difference between the 7800X3D and 13700K is probably small unless you're pushing it hard. Save energy by choosing the CPU if you don't need maximum performance.
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avi15
09-02-2023, 05:37 PM #7

You're mainly on the web and play some games, with a bit of AI work. The difference between the 7800X3D and 13700K is probably small unless you're pushing it hard. Save energy by choosing the CPU if you don't need maximum performance.

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LaniBooster
Senior Member
344
09-02-2023, 06:58 PM
#8
I'm also wondering if I really need a Ryzen 7 or i7. I went with an i5 mainly because I thought my CPU was the limiting factor—search index issues and slow file explorer were the main problems. Also, the graphics difference seems minor unless Intel has a better option with improved media encoding. That's just another layer of questions that keeps getting more complicated.
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LaniBooster
09-02-2023, 06:58 PM #8

I'm also wondering if I really need a Ryzen 7 or i7. I went with an i5 mainly because I thought my CPU was the limiting factor—search index issues and slow file explorer were the main problems. Also, the graphics difference seems minor unless Intel has a better option with improved media encoding. That's just another layer of questions that keeps getting more complicated.

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xMrR3AP3RZx
Junior Member
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09-02-2023, 08:36 PM
#9
Modern GPUs are capable of supporting multiple displays, often up to four. This means you don’t require an integrated graphics card for that setup. It mainly serves as a reliable backup if your GPU fails, giving you a solution for troubleshooting or until a replacement arrives. Using the integrated GPU for a second monitor offers no significant advantage. Your main display can handle a full desktop while you use the secondary one for tasks like streaming or light work. I can enjoy games on the primary screen and watch videos on the other, and your RX 6600 performs just fine compared to an RTX 4070 TiS unless you're playing high-resolution games at maximum settings. The necessity of an integrated GPU depends on whether you need video encoding; otherwise, it’s not a major concern.
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xMrR3AP3RZx
09-02-2023, 08:36 PM #9

Modern GPUs are capable of supporting multiple displays, often up to four. This means you don’t require an integrated graphics card for that setup. It mainly serves as a reliable backup if your GPU fails, giving you a solution for troubleshooting or until a replacement arrives. Using the integrated GPU for a second monitor offers no significant advantage. Your main display can handle a full desktop while you use the secondary one for tasks like streaming or light work. I can enjoy games on the primary screen and watch videos on the other, and your RX 6600 performs just fine compared to an RTX 4070 TiS unless you're playing high-resolution games at maximum settings. The necessity of an integrated GPU depends on whether you need video encoding; otherwise, it’s not a major concern.

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ohbabyitsEvy
Junior Member
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09-04-2023, 07:34 AM
#10
Are you performing tasks that strain the processor? Would using a Ryzen 7 or i7 provide real benefits, or are the differences minimal—similar to upgrading to a 4K display while everything runs at 1080p?
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ohbabyitsEvy
09-04-2023, 07:34 AM #10

Are you performing tasks that strain the processor? Would using a Ryzen 7 or i7 provide real benefits, or are the differences minimal—similar to upgrading to a 4K display while everything runs at 1080p?

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