F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop I don't know how I bricked two sets of G.SKILL Trident Z. Also, please kindly give me a RAM recommendation.

I don't know how I bricked two sets of G.SKILL Trident Z. Also, please kindly give me a RAM recommendation.

I don't know how I bricked two sets of G.SKILL Trident Z. Also, please kindly give me a RAM recommendation.

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Frxq
Junior Member
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10-27-2016, 04:35 AM
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TL;DR: After replacing two sets of Trident Z RAM, I need help identifying the mistake and a suitable 32 GB recommendation. Hello everyone, I built a system (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3cdPHN) with a Ryzen 5 1600 and an MSI B350M Mortar Arctic about four years ago. Initially, I used a 1x8 GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4-2400 stick without issues. Later, I upgraded to two 8 GB G.SKILL Trident Z RAM modules, which worked well. After a crash, I returned the faulty RAM and switched back to the Kingston unit, which functioned normally for another 1.5 years. A year ago, I upgraded to a 2x16 GB G.SKILL Trident Z Neo DDR4-3200 stick. The 1x16 GB version was available on QVL, and everything ran smoothly again. Recently, I went with a 2x16 GB G.SKILL kit for the second time. This suggests my previous R5 1600 was likely fine. I kept my CPU at the latest BIOS and used XMP to optimize speeds, though it didn’t automatically boost them. What went wrong? And what’s your advice for a 32 GB RAM setup with a Ryzen 5 2 600?

Best,
Tataffe
Edited Nov 19, 2021
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Frxq
10-27-2016, 04:35 AM #1

TL;DR: After replacing two sets of Trident Z RAM, I need help identifying the mistake and a suitable 32 GB recommendation. Hello everyone, I built a system (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3cdPHN) with a Ryzen 5 1600 and an MSI B350M Mortar Arctic about four years ago. Initially, I used a 1x8 GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4-2400 stick without issues. Later, I upgraded to two 8 GB G.SKILL Trident Z RAM modules, which worked well. After a crash, I returned the faulty RAM and switched back to the Kingston unit, which functioned normally for another 1.5 years. A year ago, I upgraded to a 2x16 GB G.SKILL Trident Z Neo DDR4-3200 stick. The 1x16 GB version was available on QVL, and everything ran smoothly again. Recently, I went with a 2x16 GB G.SKILL kit for the second time. This suggests my previous R5 1600 was likely fine. I kept my CPU at the latest BIOS and used XMP to optimize speeds, though it didn’t automatically boost them. What went wrong? And what’s your advice for a 32 GB RAM setup with a Ryzen 5 2 600?

Best,
Tataffe
Edited Nov 19, 2021

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joshgar0006
Member
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10-27-2016, 04:35 AM
#2
Activated XMP on Zen and Zen+ CPUs. These chips suffer from a severely flawed memory controller, making it impossible to reach 3200MHz without extreme voltage adjustments and specialized RAM. They perform adequately at the standard JEDEC frequencies of 2133 or 2666.
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joshgar0006
10-27-2016, 04:35 AM #2

Activated XMP on Zen and Zen+ CPUs. These chips suffer from a severely flawed memory controller, making it impossible to reach 3200MHz without extreme voltage adjustments and specialized RAM. They perform adequately at the standard JEDEC frequencies of 2133 or 2666.

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StephanKruger
Member
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10-27-2016, 04:36 AM
#3
Thank you for your response! I didn't run them before.
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StephanKruger
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM #3

Thank you for your response! I didn't run them before.

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swordnation
Junior Member
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10-27-2016, 04:36 AM
#4
You should definitely test them first before assuming they’re faulty. It’s tough to find bad RAM sticks even in high-quality models like the TridentZ Neo.
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swordnation
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM #4

You should definitely test them first before assuming they’re faulty. It’s tough to find bad RAM sticks even in high-quality models like the TridentZ Neo.

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TheZenKaiZ_Yt
Member
151
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM
#5
They mentioned early Ryzen models were tough to get RAM to work quickly. It wasn't a faulty chip, just the CPU's memory controller being problematic.
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TheZenKaiZ_Yt
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM #5

They mentioned early Ryzen models were tough to get RAM to work quickly. It wasn't a faulty chip, just the CPU's memory controller being problematic.

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Puppzi
Member
209
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM
#6
Do you believe your sticks remain in good condition? You might only need to turn off XMP, or it could be a finished set.
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Puppzi
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM #6

Do you believe your sticks remain in good condition? You might only need to turn off XMP, or it could be a finished set.

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ATacticalCat_
Member
201
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM
#7
These processors demanded precise memory handling because of their SOC voltage requirements. You'll likely need to raise the SOC voltages from automatic settings to around 1.1 to 1.15 volts for optimal performance and to support XMP profiles.
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ATacticalCat_
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM #7

These processors demanded precise memory handling because of their SOC voltage requirements. You'll likely need to raise the SOC voltages from automatic settings to around 1.1 to 1.15 volts for optimal performance and to support XMP profiles.

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ClumsySky
Senior Member
526
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM
#8
You've had a smooth ride with fast memory on Zen+, mostly hitting 4000mhz. It's tough to get the Infinity Fabric to play nice. On B-Die 1.360v, 3733mhz daily is quite comfortable for Zen+. The system seems to prefer your SK-Hynix chips, so be careful with your selection.
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ClumsySky
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM #8

You've had a smooth ride with fast memory on Zen+, mostly hitting 4000mhz. It's tough to get the Infinity Fabric to play nice. On B-Die 1.360v, 3733mhz daily is quite comfortable for Zen+. The system seems to prefer your SK-Hynix chips, so be careful with your selection.

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lolX20
Member
136
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM
#9
it wasn't as common in the 2000 series compared to the 1000, yet it remained present.
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lolX20
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM #9

it wasn't as common in the 2000 series compared to the 1000, yet it remained present.

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pirogon
Member
125
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM
#10
Turn off xmp and they will function properly.
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pirogon
10-27-2016, 04:36 AM #10

Turn off xmp and they will function properly.