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How can I locate the origin of the issue?

How can I locate the origin of the issue?

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Mi_xer
Junior Member
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02-09-2022, 08:04 AM
#11
That's correct, 2560x1440 is the resolution you're referring to.
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Mi_xer
02-09-2022, 08:04 AM #11

That's correct, 2560x1440 is the resolution you're referring to.

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CrazziestOrca
Junior Member
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02-09-2022, 05:02 PM
#12
It seems you might want this phrase rephrased slightly while keeping its original meaning and tone. Here is a revised version:

You probably need to be lucky and try again later.
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CrazziestOrca
02-09-2022, 05:02 PM #12

It seems you might want this phrase rephrased slightly while keeping its original meaning and tone. Here is a revised version:

You probably need to be lucky and try again later.

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Bay900
Junior Member
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02-24-2022, 03:13 AM
#13
After trying, it seems you should select all items for benchmarking or just one depending on your needs.
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Bay900
02-24-2022, 03:13 AM #13

After trying, it seems you should select all items for benchmarking or just one depending on your needs.

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Serpikus
Member
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02-24-2022, 08:14 AM
#14
I understand. Right now I'm thinking BIOS might need some adjustments, but I've never done it before because I only changed XMP and that's it. Someone suggested checking if XMP is actually enabled, which it is. But otherwise I'm not sure what to do. I'm watching videos to see what changes I could make, but so far I haven't had much success. Also, I read somewhere that using Armoury Crate to update drivers isn't recommended since ASUS uses outdated ones. I only used Armoury Crate a few days ago and got the option to update drivers, but now I'm thinking about reinstalling all CPU drivers and don't know the best approach yet.
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Serpikus
02-24-2022, 08:14 AM #14

I understand. Right now I'm thinking BIOS might need some adjustments, but I've never done it before because I only changed XMP and that's it. Someone suggested checking if XMP is actually enabled, which it is. But otherwise I'm not sure what to do. I'm watching videos to see what changes I could make, but so far I haven't had much success. Also, I read somewhere that using Armoury Crate to update drivers isn't recommended since ASUS uses outdated ones. I only used Armoury Crate a few days ago and got the option to update drivers, but now I'm thinking about reinstalling all CPU drivers and don't know the best approach yet.

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C_for_Churro
Junior Member
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03-17-2022, 11:38 PM
#15
Select all.
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C_for_Churro
03-17-2022, 11:38 PM #15

Select all.

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JoloYolo
Member
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03-18-2022, 02:53 AM
#16
Interesting, I actually managed to get in after continuously installing and restarting the program again and again lmao!
But sadly it doesn't recognize my GPU (?) on both runs.
This benchmark is where I only selected CPU because I didn't expect it to actually test anything:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/68933951
And this one is where I selected all:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/68933974
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JoloYolo
03-18-2022, 02:53 AM #16

Interesting, I actually managed to get in after continuously installing and restarting the program again and again lmao!
But sadly it doesn't recognize my GPU (?) on both runs.
This benchmark is where I only selected CPU because I didn't expect it to actually test anything:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/68933951
And this one is where I selected all:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/68933974

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Airty1
Junior Member
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03-18-2022, 08:47 PM
#17
You may consider refreshing your bios and checking the chipset driver if necessary.
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Airty1
03-18-2022, 08:47 PM #17

You may consider refreshing your bios and checking the chipset driver if necessary.

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Critadel
Member
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04-05-2022, 01:07 AM
#18
Just replying in order, I did not yet read the next post.
I think you've found benchmarking apps already, but one of the most basic tools you can use is the task manager (assuming Windows). You can switch to viewing CPU activity or GPU activity. If you just get an idea of percentage use while in one of those higher load scenarios, see if it is roughly at some non-100% level; then check the other. I've not tried to run two task managers at once, maybe that is possible. Having a second monitor to see this while in your app really helps.
Someone else might have suggestions for viewing loads in the middle of a game if you have only one monitor. The trick is to see CPU and GPU activity at the same time.
I don't see if you are using Windows 10 or 11. But here is a Windows 10 example Google search:
"windows 10" disable swap
The point is that you are disabling any swap file. Swap has existed since I think the 80286 chip. The old 8080 and 8088 probably did not have swap. Swap came about because of how expensive RAM was in the early days; most computers choke in some way if they run out of RAM, but there are "Jedi mind tricks" to use disk storage to store RAM content temporarily, use the RAM for some other purpose, and then when you need that in RAM again, restore it from disk. This is on by default, and the scheduler in the system kernel decides when something is not of high enough priority, and puts it in swap memory instead so actual RAM is freed up. This is a lot slower than RAM, and if you have enough RAM, only serves as a "safety" in case something momentarily uses more RAM than available. 32 GB of RAM is easily enough for many uses, including most games, but if you were to have other content running at the same time, then it might be that you need swap (e.g., if you have 25 browser pages open while gaming). Just look at the Google search and test, then enable swap again when done if it doesn't help. This skips an enormous contributor to slowing if swap is the reason.
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Critadel
04-05-2022, 01:07 AM #18

Just replying in order, I did not yet read the next post.
I think you've found benchmarking apps already, but one of the most basic tools you can use is the task manager (assuming Windows). You can switch to viewing CPU activity or GPU activity. If you just get an idea of percentage use while in one of those higher load scenarios, see if it is roughly at some non-100% level; then check the other. I've not tried to run two task managers at once, maybe that is possible. Having a second monitor to see this while in your app really helps.
Someone else might have suggestions for viewing loads in the middle of a game if you have only one monitor. The trick is to see CPU and GPU activity at the same time.
I don't see if you are using Windows 10 or 11. But here is a Windows 10 example Google search:
"windows 10" disable swap
The point is that you are disabling any swap file. Swap has existed since I think the 80286 chip. The old 8080 and 8088 probably did not have swap. Swap came about because of how expensive RAM was in the early days; most computers choke in some way if they run out of RAM, but there are "Jedi mind tricks" to use disk storage to store RAM content temporarily, use the RAM for some other purpose, and then when you need that in RAM again, restore it from disk. This is on by default, and the scheduler in the system kernel decides when something is not of high enough priority, and puts it in swap memory instead so actual RAM is freed up. This is a lot slower than RAM, and if you have enough RAM, only serves as a "safety" in case something momentarily uses more RAM than available. 32 GB of RAM is easily enough for many uses, including most games, but if you were to have other content running at the same time, then it might be that you need swap (e.g., if you have 25 browser pages open while gaming). Just look at the Google search and test, then enable swap again when done if it doesn't help. This skips an enormous contributor to slowing if swap is the reason.

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AnnKa03
Member
120
04-05-2022, 06:15 AM
#19
I don't have any information about those benchmarks. However, I would be cautious about downloading and installing them from unverified sources, as there are security concerns. Someone else might have a better benchmark for you, but you should mention whether it's for Windows 10 or 11 (or an older version).
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AnnKa03
04-05-2022, 06:15 AM #19

I don't have any information about those benchmarks. However, I would be cautious about downloading and installing them from unverified sources, as there are security concerns. Someone else might have a better benchmark for you, but you should mention whether it's for Windows 10 or 11 (or an older version).

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djpumuslink01
Senior Member
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04-05-2022, 07:50 AM
#20
Hi! I added it to the list to refresh bios, but after updating to the newest version I hit a black screen. Using a VPN helped me chat with ASUS support from the USA. I discovered that my current BIOS and mainboard don’t allow instant updates—they require a step-by-step update each time. This wasted 2-3 hours of my day. Then I found that resetting CMOS fixed it, thank goodness... I’ll try updating again later.
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djpumuslink01
04-05-2022, 07:50 AM #20

Hi! I added it to the list to refresh bios, but after updating to the newest version I hit a black screen. Using a VPN helped me chat with ASUS support from the USA. I discovered that my current BIOS and mainboard don’t allow instant updates—they require a step-by-step update each time. This wasted 2-3 hours of my day. Then I found that resetting CMOS fixed it, thank goodness... I’ll try updating again later.

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