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ckg63
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07-26-2022, 01:43 PM
#11
The recommendation wasn't made, it was chosen by the person asking. I went along with their AM4 platform.
However, because you mentioned it, the 5600G either matches or surpasses the 12400F.
I also feel unsure about suggesting F-type Intel chips since lacking an iGPU can be problematic, and I've had concerns about the reliability of cheap parts.
I own a 12100/W stock cooler and, being honest, I’d prefer to install an Assassin X instead for better quiet operation.
But if I couldn’t afford or didn’t want such upgrades, I’d opt for the cooler that comes with the CPU.
It can get a bit noisy sometimes. The 12100 tends to favor boost performance and is surprisingly quick for its cost.
Based on what I’ve experienced, I’m undecided whether to use the cooler that’s included with locked Intel chips or to install a solid aftermarket alternative. Both options have their pros and cons.
That’s why I sought your opinion.
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ckg63
07-26-2022, 01:43 PM #11

The recommendation wasn't made, it was chosen by the person asking. I went along with their AM4 platform.
However, because you mentioned it, the 5600G either matches or surpasses the 12400F.
I also feel unsure about suggesting F-type Intel chips since lacking an iGPU can be problematic, and I've had concerns about the reliability of cheap parts.
I own a 12100/W stock cooler and, being honest, I’d prefer to install an Assassin X instead for better quiet operation.
But if I couldn’t afford or didn’t want such upgrades, I’d opt for the cooler that comes with the CPU.
It can get a bit noisy sometimes. The 12100 tends to favor boost performance and is surprisingly quick for its cost.
Based on what I’ve experienced, I’m undecided whether to use the cooler that’s included with locked Intel chips or to install a solid aftermarket alternative. Both options have their pros and cons.
That’s why I sought your opinion.

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Hezo69
Junior Member
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07-27-2022, 02:53 PM
#12
When working with a limited budget like the OP's, opt for the 12400F. Regarding the CPU cooler, Endorfy units from Thermalrights are popular in Eastern Europe—they're affordable and still perform well.
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Hezo69
07-27-2022, 02:53 PM #12

When working with a limited budget like the OP's, opt for the 12400F. Regarding the CPU cooler, Endorfy units from Thermalrights are popular in Eastern Europe—they're affordable and still perform well.

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Aid3n117
Member
115
08-12-2022, 01:40 PM
#13
The 5600X performs better than the 12400F, while the 5600G is slower by about 15%, which isn't as drastic as it seems. For lasting performance, I believe we should consider AM5, since AM4 and LGA 1700 are no longer supported.
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Aid3n117
08-12-2022, 01:40 PM #13

The 5600X performs better than the 12400F, while the 5600G is slower by about 15%, which isn't as drastic as it seems. For lasting performance, I believe we should consider AM5, since AM4 and LGA 1700 are no longer supported.

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Inezze009
Senior Member
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08-13-2022, 11:08 AM
#14
Budget won't go that far, and the goal is 1080p maximum settings. AM5 can achieve that and supports upgrades, though it comes with a higher cost for reaching 1080p max. Also, the 5600G has a slightly quicker clock and is unlocked for whatever benefit it offers. So I consider it a good move. And because both AM4 and Alder builds are relatively affordable, it really depends on... a bit of luck. 😀
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Inezze009
08-13-2022, 11:08 AM #14

Budget won't go that far, and the goal is 1080p maximum settings. AM5 can achieve that and supports upgrades, though it comes with a higher cost for reaching 1080p max. Also, the 5600G has a slightly quicker clock and is unlocked for whatever benefit it offers. So I consider it a good move. And because both AM4 and Alder builds are relatively affordable, it really depends on... a bit of luck. 😀

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Killingpig
Member
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08-21-2022, 01:13 AM
#15
Fairly reasonable, we're not focusing on huge variations between the two, particularly with the chips in mind. Of course, if we examine the 13900, 14700 and higher models, LGA 1700 takes the lead, but at this price range it should work just fine. LGA 1700 offers better high-end choices for the future, as long as you have a solid motherboard, though I'd lean towards the cost factor here.
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Killingpig
08-21-2022, 01:13 AM #15

Fairly reasonable, we're not focusing on huge variations between the two, particularly with the chips in mind. Of course, if we examine the 13900, 14700 and higher models, LGA 1700 takes the lead, but at this price range it should work just fine. LGA 1700 offers better high-end choices for the future, as long as you have a solid motherboard, though I'd lean towards the cost factor here.

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eLp4y4z0r
Junior Member
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08-21-2022, 02:01 AM
#16
I can clarify the reason for the change in the CPU and motherboard. I previously had an R5 3600 and it successfully achieves 60fps on maximum settings in current games. This also appears to be a strong suggestion.
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eLp4y4z0r
08-21-2022, 02:01 AM #16

I can clarify the reason for the change in the CPU and motherboard. I previously had an R5 3600 and it successfully achieves 60fps on maximum settings in current games. This also appears to be a strong suggestion.

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Cutie_Kitcat
Senior Member
644
08-21-2022, 10:33 PM
#17
It's mainly due to AM4 being an outdated platform now. It was first released in 2016 and has seen numerous updates, yet its core architecture is still around eight years old. LGA 1700 isn't a significantly better option either—it offers more high-end upgrade possibilities for future models like the 14700 or 14900—but it may perform better over time because you can add more cores in the socket. Ideally, investing a bit more would be to opt for an AM5 setup, which will remain supported for years. In short, AM4 is quite old and hasn't received substantial updates, LGA 1700 isn't as outdated, and it provides more room for growth, though not as much as AM5. If you choose AM4, consider getting a Ryzen 5 5600 or 5600X if you can, as they offer a noticeable performance boost right out of the box compared to the 5600G.
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Cutie_Kitcat
08-21-2022, 10:33 PM #17

It's mainly due to AM4 being an outdated platform now. It was first released in 2016 and has seen numerous updates, yet its core architecture is still around eight years old. LGA 1700 isn't a significantly better option either—it offers more high-end upgrade possibilities for future models like the 14700 or 14900—but it may perform better over time because you can add more cores in the socket. Ideally, investing a bit more would be to opt for an AM5 setup, which will remain supported for years. In short, AM4 is quite old and hasn't received substantial updates, LGA 1700 isn't as outdated, and it provides more room for growth, though not as much as AM5. If you choose AM4, consider getting a Ryzen 5 5600 or 5600X if you can, as they offer a noticeable performance boost right out of the box compared to the 5600G.

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