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Help me with Custom Water Cooling

Help me with Custom Water Cooling

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CaptainFrix
Member
213
12-18-2016, 02:37 PM
#1
I want to check a few details:
1. Can custom water cooling be installed in the Corsair Carbide 400C? If yes, where should the reservoir and pump be placed?
2. Is a 360mm radiator sufficient to cool both the CPU and one GPU?
3. Which flexible tubing and coolant are best for long-lasting performance?
4. How do you remove coolant from the loop while maintaining it?
5. What is the highest supported height for the tube reservoir inside the Corsair Carbide 400C?
Your answers will help decide whether to go full loop or not.
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CaptainFrix
12-18-2016, 02:37 PM #1

I want to check a few details:
1. Can custom water cooling be installed in the Corsair Carbide 400C? If yes, where should the reservoir and pump be placed?
2. Is a 360mm radiator sufficient to cool both the CPU and one GPU?
3. Which flexible tubing and coolant are best for long-lasting performance?
4. How do you remove coolant from the loop while maintaining it?
5. What is the highest supported height for the tube reservoir inside the Corsair Carbide 400C?
Your answers will help decide whether to go full loop or not.

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Hiudy
Member
90
12-18-2016, 05:27 PM
#2
In the end, air coolers operate in two failure modes—temperature drop or fan cessation—but the latter still leaves a substantial thermal mass near the CPU. Water coolers feature several failure scenarios, including pump malfunctions, leaks, disconnected water blocks, air restrictions, and fan issues. In each case, there is no large radiating heat sink attached, causing temperatures to climb quickly, often within minutes at most.
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Hiudy
12-18-2016, 05:27 PM #2

In the end, air coolers operate in two failure modes—temperature drop or fan cessation—but the latter still leaves a substantial thermal mass near the CPU. Water coolers feature several failure scenarios, including pump malfunctions, leaks, disconnected water blocks, air restrictions, and fan issues. In each case, there is no large radiating heat sink attached, causing temperatures to climb quickly, often within minutes at most.

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ASCxViper
Junior Member
29
01-08-2017, 02:01 PM
#3
Probably not what you were expecting.
I recommend investing in faster components from the start.
My usual criticism about liquid cooling:
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You purchase a liquid cooler to boost your OC performance by an extra factor or two.
How much do you actually require?
I generally prefer not to rely on all-in-one liquid coolers when a quality air cooler such as a Noctua or Phanteks can handle the task just as well.
A liquid cooler tends to be costly, noisy, less dependable, and won’t improve cooling in a well-ventilated case.
In reality, liquid cooling is essentially air cooling, merely shifting the heat exchange location.
The way you position the radiator matters.
If you face it to draw in cool air from outside, your CPU will perform better, but the incoming hot air will then recirculate inside, warming the graphics card and motherboard.
Conversely, if you orient it for exhaust—what I believe is preferable—your CPU cooling will be less effective since it depends on pre-heated case air.
And... I’ve come across many stories about liquid coolers failing due to leaks.
Search for “H100 leak”
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ASCxViper
01-08-2017, 02:01 PM #3

Probably not what you were expecting.
I recommend investing in faster components from the start.
My usual criticism about liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You purchase a liquid cooler to boost your OC performance by an extra factor or two.
How much do you actually require?
I generally prefer not to rely on all-in-one liquid coolers when a quality air cooler such as a Noctua or Phanteks can handle the task just as well.
A liquid cooler tends to be costly, noisy, less dependable, and won’t improve cooling in a well-ventilated case.
In reality, liquid cooling is essentially air cooling, merely shifting the heat exchange location.
The way you position the radiator matters.
If you face it to draw in cool air from outside, your CPU will perform better, but the incoming hot air will then recirculate inside, warming the graphics card and motherboard.
Conversely, if you orient it for exhaust—what I believe is preferable—your CPU cooling will be less effective since it depends on pre-heated case air.
And... I’ve come across many stories about liquid coolers failing due to leaks.
Search for “H100 leak”
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

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Harckaon
Member
153
01-08-2017, 06:27 PM
#4
Yeah, that is one of the most alarming things that can occur when using water: a leak. But I keep thinking, "What if I succeed? What are the good sides?" And the answer comes clear: "If I succeed, I'll have a beautiful and quiet setup (thanks to the GPU fan not blowing)". That's why I'm considering trying it out. I'd like to ask these questions. If I'm happy enough with your responses, I'll try custom water cooling, even if it costs a lot. Anyway, thank you for sharing your experience.
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Harckaon
01-08-2017, 06:27 PM #4

Yeah, that is one of the most alarming things that can occur when using water: a leak. But I keep thinking, "What if I succeed? What are the good sides?" And the answer comes clear: "If I succeed, I'll have a beautiful and quiet setup (thanks to the GPU fan not blowing)". That's why I'm considering trying it out. I'd like to ask these questions. If I'm happy enough with your responses, I'll try custom water cooling, even if it costs a lot. Anyway, thank you for sharing your experience.

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XWeeezy
Member
65
01-08-2017, 09:34 PM
#5
IDProG:
Yeah, that's one of the most alarming things that can occur when using water: a leak. But I keep thinking, "What if I succeed? What are the good sides?" And the answer came clear: "If I succeed, I'll have a beautiful and quiet setup (thanks to the GPU fan not being there)." So I say, "Why not give it a shot?" Because of that, I'm going to ask these questions. If I'm happy enough with your responses, I'll try custom water cooling, even if it's costly. But anyway, thank you for sharing your experience.
Don't be silent while you're still forcing air through the radiators.
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XWeeezy
01-08-2017, 09:34 PM #5

IDProG:
Yeah, that's one of the most alarming things that can occur when using water: a leak. But I keep thinking, "What if I succeed? What are the good sides?" And the answer came clear: "If I succeed, I'll have a beautiful and quiet setup (thanks to the GPU fan not being there)." So I say, "Why not give it a shot?" Because of that, I'm going to ask these questions. If I'm happy enough with your responses, I'll try custom water cooling, even if it's costly. But anyway, thank you for sharing your experience.
Don't be silent while you're still forcing air through the radiators.

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HailSatoon
Member
137
01-15-2017, 06:13 AM
#6
In the end, air coolers operate in two failure modes—temperature drop or fan cessation—but the latter still leaves a substantial thermal mass near the CPU. Water coolers feature several failure scenarios, including pump malfunctions, leaks, water block detachment, air restrictions, and fan issues. In each case, there is no large radiating heat sink attached, causing temperatures to climb quickly, often within minutes at most.
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HailSatoon
01-15-2017, 06:13 AM #6

In the end, air coolers operate in two failure modes—temperature drop or fan cessation—but the latter still leaves a substantial thermal mass near the CPU. Water coolers feature several failure scenarios, including pump malfunctions, leaks, water block detachment, air restrictions, and fan issues. In each case, there is no large radiating heat sink attached, causing temperatures to climb quickly, often within minutes at most.

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vmontero1109
Junior Member
49
01-15-2017, 06:18 AM
#7
Well, in the end, water cooling isn't worth it according to your responses. However, I still prefer to run all the fans inside the case as much as possible (adding more until the case can no longer hold them), which helps lower the fan speed. I've gathered the necessary components and noticed the cost is too high. Thanks everyone, I think it's not a good idea to spend money on unnecessary water cooling just for looks.
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vmontero1109
01-15-2017, 06:18 AM #7

Well, in the end, water cooling isn't worth it according to your responses. However, I still prefer to run all the fans inside the case as much as possible (adding more until the case can no longer hold them), which helps lower the fan speed. I've gathered the necessary components and noticed the cost is too high. Thanks everyone, I think it's not a good idea to spend money on unnecessary water cooling just for looks.

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Faaka
Junior Member
11
01-16-2017, 01:06 AM
#8
Create silence from the beginning, avoid standard construction and achieve quietness.
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Faaka
01-16-2017, 01:06 AM #8

Create silence from the beginning, avoid standard construction and achieve quietness.

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IPS10
Senior Member
623
01-17-2017, 08:32 AM
#9
It really depends on your plans for the build. Water cooling is highly advantageous when you're focused on overclocking, since doing benchmarks in air is inefficient. For a simple light overclock on the CPU and GPU, air cooling works just fine.
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IPS10
01-17-2017, 08:32 AM #9

It really depends on your plans for the build. Water cooling is highly advantageous when you're focused on overclocking, since doing benchmarks in air is inefficient. For a simple light overclock on the CPU and GPU, air cooling works just fine.

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rboy108
Member
166
01-17-2017, 09:03 AM
#10
Water cooling leaks are less frequent than people think.
There is a possibility.
It can occur.
It does happen.
It isn't a typical situation.
As mentioned before, the extra expense could be better spent on performance upgrades. However, what matters is whether it adds value for you. Overclocking no longer requires such measures as it used to, but water cooling still offers advantages in appearance and sound quality, depending on your setup.
Too often I notice individuals purchasing everything they desire and then opting for water cooling only later. This suggests there might have been a more suitable component or a GPU with a full cover block available, yet a non-reference PCB card was bought instead.
I choose to water cool (and will keep doing so) because I can and because I wish to, not out of necessity. Overclocking and water cooling are no longer linked as they once were, although higher voltages and speeds can improve thermal stability.
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rboy108
01-17-2017, 09:03 AM #10

Water cooling leaks are less frequent than people think.
There is a possibility.
It can occur.
It does happen.
It isn't a typical situation.
As mentioned before, the extra expense could be better spent on performance upgrades. However, what matters is whether it adds value for you. Overclocking no longer requires such measures as it used to, but water cooling still offers advantages in appearance and sound quality, depending on your setup.
Too often I notice individuals purchasing everything they desire and then opting for water cooling only later. This suggests there might have been a more suitable component or a GPU with a full cover block available, yet a non-reference PCB card was bought instead.
I choose to water cool (and will keep doing so) because I can and because I wish to, not out of necessity. Overclocking and water cooling are no longer linked as they once were, although higher voltages and speeds can improve thermal stability.