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[HELP] About water cooler

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OskarKludder
Member
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12-23-2016, 10:19 AM
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I don’t fully understand everything about water coolers. My question is:
1. Is it better to cool the temperature or the temperature itself?
2. Does the water cooler require refilling with liquid, and if yes, how often should it be charged?
4. Many believe water coolers are prone to leaks—am I right?
5. I’m not sure, can someone clarify for me?
Because I want to buy a Deepcool Maelstrom 240T liquid cooler, I’m asking here since I think the more experienced folks here can help. If I need extra liquid cooling later, what should I do?
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OskarKludder
12-23-2016, 10:19 AM #1

I don’t fully understand everything about water coolers. My question is:
1. Is it better to cool the temperature or the temperature itself?
2. Does the water cooler require refilling with liquid, and if yes, how often should it be charged?
4. Many believe water coolers are prone to leaks—am I right?
5. I’m not sure, can someone clarify for me?
Because I want to buy a Deepcool Maelstrom 240T liquid cooler, I’m asking here since I think the more experienced folks here can help. If I need extra liquid cooling later, what should I do?

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juri1990
Senior Member
441
12-23-2016, 01:40 PM
#2
while differences may exist in certain situations, air cooling and water cooling often deliver comparable results. air cooling tends to be more affordable for similar performance compared to a water cooling loop. the advantage of water cooling lies in its ability to move cooling parts away from the main board. for instance, a cooler such as the nh-d14 offers strong cooling but is bulky, unattractive, and hangs off the motherboard. although it might cost more, a comparable water cooler can be placed on the side of the case, improving space management. this adjustment can help with appearance, avoiding clearance problems, or simply because you prefer...
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juri1990
12-23-2016, 01:40 PM #2

while differences may exist in certain situations, air cooling and water cooling often deliver comparable results. air cooling tends to be more affordable for similar performance compared to a water cooling loop. the advantage of water cooling lies in its ability to move cooling parts away from the main board. for instance, a cooler such as the nh-d14 offers strong cooling but is bulky, unattractive, and hangs off the motherboard. although it might cost more, a comparable water cooler can be placed on the side of the case, improving space management. this adjustment can help with appearance, avoiding clearance problems, or simply because you prefer...

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Mr_Reus
Member
135
12-23-2016, 09:55 PM
#3
1. water cooling vs air cooling?
while there certainly can be a difference in some scenarios generally air cooling and water cooling perform similarly. air cooling is much cheaper for the same results as a water cooling loop would be. the benefit of water cooling however is that you can relocate the cooling components out of the way. for example, a cooler like the nh-d14 provides quite excellent cooling however is huge, ugly and hangs off the motherboard. while it may cost more a similar performance water cooler can be hooked up to the side of the case thereby relocating the bulk of the cooling components out of the way. this can be done for A) aesthetics, B) to avoid clearance issues with other components or C) because you feel the weight hanging off the motherboard is a problem.
2. does it need to be recharged?
generally, no. in homebuilt water cooled loops it is suggested to have a fill/drain line as a just in case but unless there is leakage you should not have to refill. closed loop systems like you wanted to buy do not need to be touched by you.
3. ?
4. do they leak?
they should not leak if assembled correctly. doing a leak test however is suggested (run the cooler outside the system and test for leaks) before installing it in your system. there are also certain coolants used which are nonconductive in case there are leaks. there certainly are cases where leaking can occur and it is certainly a risk not found on air coolers but normally is not a problem in most cases.
5. explain to me?
the way any cooler works is to pass cold air over an array of fins to lower the temperature of components. in air cooling this is done with a block with fins situated above the cooler. in old designs it was part of the cpu block while in modern designs there are closed heat pipes conducting heat from the cpu to the fin array. colder air passes over the heatsinks dissipating the heat produced. liquid coolers move this array of fins off to a different location and instead of heat pipes use liquid and a pump to circulate that liquid to push heat from the cpu block to the fin array.
that liquid cooler should be fine for a cpu, just make sure it fits the socket layout of your motherboard and that it fits on two fan bays of your case.
you should not need to purchase any additional products such as liquid coolant, etc with that product.
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Mr_Reus
12-23-2016, 09:55 PM #3

1. water cooling vs air cooling?
while there certainly can be a difference in some scenarios generally air cooling and water cooling perform similarly. air cooling is much cheaper for the same results as a water cooling loop would be. the benefit of water cooling however is that you can relocate the cooling components out of the way. for example, a cooler like the nh-d14 provides quite excellent cooling however is huge, ugly and hangs off the motherboard. while it may cost more a similar performance water cooler can be hooked up to the side of the case thereby relocating the bulk of the cooling components out of the way. this can be done for A) aesthetics, B) to avoid clearance issues with other components or C) because you feel the weight hanging off the motherboard is a problem.
2. does it need to be recharged?
generally, no. in homebuilt water cooled loops it is suggested to have a fill/drain line as a just in case but unless there is leakage you should not have to refill. closed loop systems like you wanted to buy do not need to be touched by you.
3. ?
4. do they leak?
they should not leak if assembled correctly. doing a leak test however is suggested (run the cooler outside the system and test for leaks) before installing it in your system. there are also certain coolants used which are nonconductive in case there are leaks. there certainly are cases where leaking can occur and it is certainly a risk not found on air coolers but normally is not a problem in most cases.
5. explain to me?
the way any cooler works is to pass cold air over an array of fins to lower the temperature of components. in air cooling this is done with a block with fins situated above the cooler. in old designs it was part of the cpu block while in modern designs there are closed heat pipes conducting heat from the cpu to the fin array. colder air passes over the heatsinks dissipating the heat produced. liquid coolers move this array of fins off to a different location and instead of heat pipes use liquid and a pump to circulate that liquid to push heat from the cpu block to the fin array.
that liquid cooler should be fine for a cpu, just make sure it fits the socket layout of your motherboard and that it fits on two fan bays of your case.
you should not need to purchase any additional products such as liquid coolant, etc with that product.

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arodgamer51
Junior Member
18
12-26-2016, 11:05 AM
#4
Water cooling proves superior to air cooling when the setup is reliable and of high quality.
Using an all-in-one (AIO) or closed-loop cooler eliminates the need for regular liquid refills, though refilling may still be required in fully custom loop systems.
Every water cooler carries a risk of leakage. Reputable brands like Corsair, EVGA, and others offer products that undergo rigorous testing before leaving the factory, ensuring they remain leak-free. Still, it's possible to acquire a unit with minor damage during shipping. When buying an AIO or CLC, verify there are no visible signs of harm and that all connections are firmly in place. I suggest opting for a cooler with rubberized tubing rather than plastic, as it reduces the chance of leaks over time.
Personally, I avoid any Deepcool products, having learned the hard way. My experience with a Deepcool Captain 120 in white on a system that was removed for a swap led to a cracked pump housing when reattaching it. While not all Deepcool items are flawed, I no longer trust their products or any that rely on the pump housing for mounting security.
This is the cooler I currently use—it performs excellently and attaches securely via a bracket covering the pump’s housing on both AMD and Intel boards.
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arodgamer51
12-26-2016, 11:05 AM #4

Water cooling proves superior to air cooling when the setup is reliable and of high quality.
Using an all-in-one (AIO) or closed-loop cooler eliminates the need for regular liquid refills, though refilling may still be required in fully custom loop systems.
Every water cooler carries a risk of leakage. Reputable brands like Corsair, EVGA, and others offer products that undergo rigorous testing before leaving the factory, ensuring they remain leak-free. Still, it's possible to acquire a unit with minor damage during shipping. When buying an AIO or CLC, verify there are no visible signs of harm and that all connections are firmly in place. I suggest opting for a cooler with rubberized tubing rather than plastic, as it reduces the chance of leaks over time.
Personally, I avoid any Deepcool products, having learned the hard way. My experience with a Deepcool Captain 120 in white on a system that was removed for a swap led to a cracked pump housing when reattaching it. While not all Deepcool items are flawed, I no longer trust their products or any that rely on the pump housing for mounting security.
This is the cooler I currently use—it performs excellently and attaches securely via a bracket covering the pump’s housing on both AMD and Intel boards.

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197
12-28-2016, 01:32 AM
#5
Hi Leyha
No requirement for water cooling unless your system is very powerful and you plan to overclock. To address your queries:
1.Is more effective water cooling to cool the temperature?
It varies depending on your goals. If you aim to overclock your CPU, a larger AIO cooler works better. Smaller models offer little advantage compared to basic air coolers.
2. Does a water cooler require refilling with liquid, and if so, how long does it take to recharge?
AIO coolers come pre-filled with coolant and typically last the product’s life without needing refills.
3. Is it true that water coolers are especially prone to leaks?
Some reports mention leaks, though they’re uncommon. If it happens, check your warranty to see if coverage applies.
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Quinnsillyhead
12-28-2016, 01:32 AM #5

Hi Leyha
No requirement for water cooling unless your system is very powerful and you plan to overclock. To address your queries:
1.Is more effective water cooling to cool the temperature?
It varies depending on your goals. If you aim to overclock your CPU, a larger AIO cooler works better. Smaller models offer little advantage compared to basic air coolers.
2. Does a water cooler require refilling with liquid, and if so, how long does it take to recharge?
AIO coolers come pre-filled with coolant and typically last the product’s life without needing refills.
3. Is it true that water coolers are especially prone to leaks?
Some reports mention leaks, though they’re uncommon. If it happens, check your warranty to see if coverage applies.

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Demonography
Junior Member
15
12-29-2016, 12:23 AM
#6
1. Not always. Certain air coolers may surpass many all-in-one water coolers. Keep in mind MeanMachine's advice: if your goal is overclocking, some AIOs and especially well-made custom loops tend to maintain lower temperatures more effectively than air coolers.
2. It varies. Most AIOs are sealed systems designed for long-term use without refilling. They often rely on patents and designs from companies like Asetek that date back many years. Altering them can cancel any warranty. A few manufacturers offer expandable or refillable AIOs, which can be adapted into a custom loop.
4. Leakage is a concern. Whether it happens with cheap AIOs or costly custom loops remains possible. Many opt out of watercooling because of the leak risk, particularly when air coolers match or exceed their performance.
There’s ample discussion about watercooling on YouTube; you’re welcome to explore what different experts say.
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Demonography
12-29-2016, 12:23 AM #6

1. Not always. Certain air coolers may surpass many all-in-one water coolers. Keep in mind MeanMachine's advice: if your goal is overclocking, some AIOs and especially well-made custom loops tend to maintain lower temperatures more effectively than air coolers.
2. It varies. Most AIOs are sealed systems designed for long-term use without refilling. They often rely on patents and designs from companies like Asetek that date back many years. Altering them can cancel any warranty. A few manufacturers offer expandable or refillable AIOs, which can be adapted into a custom loop.
4. Leakage is a concern. Whether it happens with cheap AIOs or costly custom loops remains possible. Many opt out of watercooling because of the leak risk, particularly when air coolers match or exceed their performance.
There’s ample discussion about watercooling on YouTube; you’re welcome to explore what different experts say.

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Xytrixz
Senior Member
552
12-29-2016, 07:30 AM
#7
If I increase the overclock by 20%, is it safe to run the CPU with a fan on? I currently have two fans from the VGA card, one fan case, and an ice edge mini FS chip on the CPU.
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Xytrixz
12-29-2016, 07:30 AM #7

If I increase the overclock by 20%, is it safe to run the CPU with a fan on? I currently have two fans from the VGA card, one fan case, and an ice edge mini FS chip on the CPU.

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whatuppants
Junior Member
47
12-30-2016, 01:12 PM
#8
Leyha:
If I increase the clock speed by 20% with a CPU fan active, is it safe? I currently have two fans from the VGA card, one case for the fan, and an ice edge mini FS on the CPU. Is a 20% overclock on air risky? Based on what you've shared, it might be possible or likely. I would need more details about your system specs. Many people with similar setups can have stable, moderate overclocks using air coolers on both Intel and AMD chips. If you're not familiar with OCing my recommendation, it would help to review a simple guide available online and on YouTube. The effectiveness of overclocking also depends on other parts in your system.
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whatuppants
12-30-2016, 01:12 PM #8

Leyha:
If I increase the clock speed by 20% with a CPU fan active, is it safe? I currently have two fans from the VGA card, one case for the fan, and an ice edge mini FS on the CPU. Is a 20% overclock on air risky? Based on what you've shared, it might be possible or likely. I would need more details about your system specs. Many people with similar setups can have stable, moderate overclocks using air coolers on both Intel and AMD chips. If you're not familiar with OCing my recommendation, it would help to review a simple guide available online and on YouTube. The effectiveness of overclocking also depends on other parts in your system.

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sharethebearz
Junior Member
3
01-07-2017, 07:20 AM
#9
trying to overclock in one fan case isn't a good approach. the more heat it produces, the harder it is to dissipate, making the case inefficient. excessive heat may lead to thermal throttling or even shutdown in extreme cases. this wouldn’t be ideal.
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sharethebearz
01-07-2017, 07:20 AM #9

trying to overclock in one fan case isn't a good approach. the more heat it produces, the harder it is to dissipate, making the case inefficient. excessive heat may lead to thermal throttling or even shutdown in extreme cases. this wouldn’t be ideal.