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Have you asked about the AM4 platform?

Have you asked about the AM4 platform?

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LiamPlayzYT
Junior Member
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01-03-2017, 04:49 PM
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I am thinking about building a small cloud server. I would like to put an r7-1700 (already have it) in it. 1. How important is it to have an B3/450 chipset if you don't intend overclock? 2. How important is it to have a VRM heatsinks/cooling if you don't intend to overclock? 3. And finally, can you still use XMP on A320? Basically I just want to know if it's worth the extra $50++ in my scenario.
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LiamPlayzYT
01-03-2017, 04:49 PM #1

I am thinking about building a small cloud server. I would like to put an r7-1700 (already have it) in it. 1. How important is it to have an B3/450 chipset if you don't intend overclock? 2. How important is it to have a VRM heatsinks/cooling if you don't intend to overclock? 3. And finally, can you still use XMP on A320? Basically I just want to know if it's worth the extra $50++ in my scenario.

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Helahna
Junior Member
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01-03-2017, 09:37 PM
#2
Impacts the overall performance of the boards. The A320 is essentially poor quality since it needs to be less expensive than the already very budget-friendly B chipset boards, especially given the low-cost components used. These boards aren't designed for even a 6-core processor; most users would likely install a 200GE or 2200G and stop using them. Ultimately, the board itself plays a bigger role than the chipset it contains.
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Helahna
01-03-2017, 09:37 PM #2

Impacts the overall performance of the boards. The A320 is essentially poor quality since it needs to be less expensive than the already very budget-friendly B chipset boards, especially given the low-cost components used. These boards aren't designed for even a 6-core processor; most users would likely install a 200GE or 2200G and stop using them. Ultimately, the board itself plays a bigger role than the chipset it contains.

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MatsWillem
Junior Member
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01-06-2017, 08:39 AM
#3
Consider a cheap plastic board with visible cracks and uneven edges. It’s low quality because it lacks durability, has poor surface finish, and may not support proper assembly or long-term use.
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MatsWillem
01-06-2017, 08:39 AM #3

Consider a cheap plastic board with visible cracks and uneven edges. It’s low quality because it lacks durability, has poor surface finish, and may not support proper assembly or long-term use.

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XiJoeBonesiX
Junior Member
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01-13-2017, 02:24 AM
#4
For instance, the Asrock A320M-HDV R4.0 experienced even more failures of MOSFETs and capacitors compared to its predecessor, the A320M-HDV, which itself is already a budget model. This results in the MOSFETs supplying less heat to the CPU, causing their operating temperatures to rise significantly. Capacitors are particularly vulnerable to heat, deteriorating more quickly as temperature increases—often exponentially—and are positioned near the MOSFETs for voltage control. With fewer components available, performance losses will happen faster. The A320M-HDV already has reduced specs compared to the standard A320M, making it a weaker option; the A320M Pro4 is even more constrained but still viable if you use a low-power CPU and avoid overclocking. This isn't true for the Ryzen 7 1700, which remains an 8-core processor running at 3GHz.
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XiJoeBonesiX
01-13-2017, 02:24 AM #4

For instance, the Asrock A320M-HDV R4.0 experienced even more failures of MOSFETs and capacitors compared to its predecessor, the A320M-HDV, which itself is already a budget model. This results in the MOSFETs supplying less heat to the CPU, causing their operating temperatures to rise significantly. Capacitors are particularly vulnerable to heat, deteriorating more quickly as temperature increases—often exponentially—and are positioned near the MOSFETs for voltage control. With fewer components available, performance losses will happen faster. The A320M-HDV already has reduced specs compared to the standard A320M, making it a weaker option; the A320M Pro4 is even more constrained but still viable if you use a low-power CPU and avoid overclocking. This isn't true for the Ryzen 7 1700, which remains an 8-core processor running at 3GHz.

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jamesydog
Member
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01-13-2017, 03:27 AM
#5
A320 models restrict memory slots and port options. They typically offer fewer SATA and USB connections, often lacking USB 3.1 Gen 2 support. Since the VRM lacks heatsinks and usually functions adequately, it tends to heat more than other boards. Even without overclocking, some CPUs can cause excessive warmth, especially in certain cases or with poor case ventilation. For instance, a processor with 95W TDP might see its speed drop from 3.5GHz to 3GHz or lower after just 20-30 minutes of rendering. The VRM overheats, prompting the CPU to throttle for power savings, which reduces heat output and allows gradual cooling. You can still use XMP profiles, but some CPUs may only support up to 2666MHz or 2933MHz depending on the model. With lower-quality boards, reaching those speeds isn’t guaranteed—some might claim 3600MHz in BIOS, yet the motherboard could fail to sustain it without errors. Adjusting memory timings and voltages in BIOS is often necessary to avoid issues. A B450 board usually costs around $50 more than a B320, but prices vary by region; in the US, A320 boards are about $55 while B450 models start near $63-$65.
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jamesydog
01-13-2017, 03:27 AM #5

A320 models restrict memory slots and port options. They typically offer fewer SATA and USB connections, often lacking USB 3.1 Gen 2 support. Since the VRM lacks heatsinks and usually functions adequately, it tends to heat more than other boards. Even without overclocking, some CPUs can cause excessive warmth, especially in certain cases or with poor case ventilation. For instance, a processor with 95W TDP might see its speed drop from 3.5GHz to 3GHz or lower after just 20-30 minutes of rendering. The VRM overheats, prompting the CPU to throttle for power savings, which reduces heat output and allows gradual cooling. You can still use XMP profiles, but some CPUs may only support up to 2666MHz or 2933MHz depending on the model. With lower-quality boards, reaching those speeds isn’t guaranteed—some might claim 3600MHz in BIOS, yet the motherboard could fail to sustain it without errors. Adjusting memory timings and voltages in BIOS is often necessary to avoid issues. A B450 board usually costs around $50 more than a B320, but prices vary by region; in the US, A320 boards are about $55 while B450 models start near $63-$65.

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Figalhutch
Member
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01-15-2017, 08:17 AM
#6
You're seeking particular specifications. What processor are you interested in? Which size are you considering? Are you open to options like the B450M DS3H, S2H, or Asrock B450M Pro-4? I aim for value without sacrificing performance. Location and budget matter too—where are you looking and what price range fits?
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Figalhutch
01-15-2017, 08:17 AM #6

You're seeking particular specifications. What processor are you interested in? Which size are you considering? Are you open to options like the B450M DS3H, S2H, or Asrock B450M Pro-4? I aim for value without sacrificing performance. Location and budget matter too—where are you looking and what price range fits?

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01-15-2017, 08:18 PM
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I'm focusing on similar items. I notice options around $70 to $80 without VRM heatsinks, while higher-end boards in the $100 range also lack them.
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Sailor_Does_MC
01-15-2017, 08:18 PM #7

I'm focusing on similar items. I notice options around $70 to $80 without VRM heatsinks, while higher-end boards in the $100 range also lack them.

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SlothManYT
Junior Member
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01-16-2017, 06:21 AM
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Canada? Yeah, shipping from the States is going to be tough. Try to find used gear—sometimes you can snag a good deal by locating something that’s worn out and easy to repair. The AM4 sockets have a pretty weak cover plate; they snap easily and most folks just throw away the whole board if it looks damaged. In reality, you can swap only that part as long as the pin holes stay intact. I managed to buy two boards for half the price this way, then used an $8 socket from China to replace the needed component. The fix took about ten minutes once I had the right piece. You might not know where to look for broken parts in Canada, but it’s worth a try—it lets you get a much better board at a lower cost.
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SlothManYT
01-16-2017, 06:21 AM #8

Canada? Yeah, shipping from the States is going to be tough. Try to find used gear—sometimes you can snag a good deal by locating something that’s worn out and easy to repair. The AM4 sockets have a pretty weak cover plate; they snap easily and most folks just throw away the whole board if it looks damaged. In reality, you can swap only that part as long as the pin holes stay intact. I managed to buy two boards for half the price this way, then used an $8 socket from China to replace the needed component. The fix took about ten minutes once I had the right piece. You might not know where to look for broken parts in Canada, but it’s worth a try—it lets you get a much better board at a lower cost.

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SkullyRoger
Member
147
01-21-2017, 01:36 AM
#9
Well, honestly, the Canadian dollar is pretty weak right now (about 0.76 USD per CAD). If you convert $70 to CAD, it comes to roughly 93 CAD. Adding around 10 CAD for shipping brings it to between 90 and 100 CAD. From this selection, the top options are: The Asrock board offers a 30-dollar mail-in rebate at Vuugo, lowering the price to about 70 CAD. MSI B450M Gaming Plus is another good pick with a 99 USD price, and the 100.28 ASRock B450M Pro4-F is also available. 99 Gigabyte B450M DS3H is another solid choice. The cheapest ASRock model is the B450M-HDV R4.0, but the savings aren’t substantial enough to justify it. The VRM supports 6-8 cores, though it lacks heatsinks and has a layout that complicates adding a large heatsink. It would be better to keep the PC in a cardboard box for a while until you can afford a case, rather than chasing small savings on the motherboard.
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SkullyRoger
01-21-2017, 01:36 AM #9

Well, honestly, the Canadian dollar is pretty weak right now (about 0.76 USD per CAD). If you convert $70 to CAD, it comes to roughly 93 CAD. Adding around 10 CAD for shipping brings it to between 90 and 100 CAD. From this selection, the top options are: The Asrock board offers a 30-dollar mail-in rebate at Vuugo, lowering the price to about 70 CAD. MSI B450M Gaming Plus is another good pick with a 99 USD price, and the 100.28 ASRock B450M Pro4-F is also available. 99 Gigabyte B450M DS3H is another solid choice. The cheapest ASRock model is the B450M-HDV R4.0, but the savings aren’t substantial enough to justify it. The VRM supports 6-8 cores, though it lacks heatsinks and has a layout that complicates adding a large heatsink. It would be better to keep the PC in a cardboard box for a while until you can afford a case, rather than chasing small savings on the motherboard.

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NRedemption
Member
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01-24-2017, 05:04 PM
#10
In my opinion, this is the best choice.
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NRedemption
01-24-2017, 05:04 PM #10

In my opinion, this is the best choice.