Hardware failure ?
Hardware failure ?
There are a few Thermaltake PSUs that perform well, but it’s essential to identify them in advance. Additionally, high-quality options from Tt come at a steep price. Therefore, it’s generally advisable to steer clear of Thermaltake altogether.
PSU research plays a crucial role because the power supply is responsible for all components and is therefore the most critical part inside a PC. Lower build quality in a PSU increases the risk of malfunctions, potentially damaging connected devices—including your entire system.
Obtain a new, high-quality PSU as well. Your Tt GF1 unit may have caused a GPU boot issue and possibly corrupted the BIOS.
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- Vertex Sakura: https://seasonic.com/vertex-sakura/
These white Seasonic models are recently launched, so availability in stores may be limited. The Vertex Sakura is a special edition and could already be sold out.
I installed a Seasonic PSU and a different SSD but the problems persist. It's strange—sometimes when I hear Windows boot up and the screen goes blank, if I disconnect a USB device and reconnect it, the output turns on and I land back on the Windows 11 login screen. It feels like something unusual is happening. I've built an entire new PC around this GPU, yet this keeps occurring... really frustrating.
I wonder, which model?
I don’t have experience with Win11 (I used to run on Win10) and I’m unsure about the boot-up process in Win11. It seems the system can’t detect or show the image until a USB component is connected.
By the way, which USB device are we talking about? Since the image appears through a monitor cable—either DP or HDMI—should I unplug or plug it in to see if the display works? Or is it another USB device like a keyboard, headset, or printer?
Let’s summarize:
The problems you noticed earlier are resolved? For example, restarts, OS repair loops, GPU code 43 error?
Now, what remains is the inability to show the image during the system boot?
I considered the USB connection might have been a coincidence, maybe just a timing thing. It happened when the keyboard USB was active a few times. I thought it could be because the graphics card was delayed to display an image.
The random restarts and repair loops are no longer occurring. Now the main problem is that when the computer powers on, it shows the MSI BIOS screen, then the monitor turns off and I hear the Windows 11 login sound. Sometimes the display comes back after a long pause or when switching between onboard and discrete GPU modes.
I tried installing Windows 10 Pro, but the desktop loaded fine. However, when I installed the MSI B760 chipset, the screen shut down immediately after installation.
Before going to work, I was in the BIOS for the new board and noticed automatic driver installation during OS setup. I disabled that and performed a fresh format before installing and leaving for work.
I’m starting to believe the GPU might have failed. It’s strange because even though I replaced the motherboard, RAM, SSD, PSU, and after restarts the system didn’t crash when I entered Windows, I could play games or run benchmarks without issues. But during restarts, 90% of the time the discrete GPU doesn’t appear after BIOS loads. Sometimes the onboard GPU also fails to show when switching back. When it does, the RTX 4070 displays code 43. I was able to disable and then re-enable the RTX 4070, which worked correctly.
The only parts I haven’t replaced are the Intel 12600K processor, the GPU, and the power/reset button.
I have a spare AMD system from a few years ago that I might use for testing. I could remove it from the case and set up a test bench to see if the RTX 4070 is the issue. I would have done this sooner, but the case is too small, so I’ll need to take the motherboard out for that setup.
This situation is frustrating since I’ve built several PCs without encountering this problem before.
Solid PSU.
Even I possess it, which is feeding my older AMD build but it's a 550W unit.
At least that amount is sufficient.
It appears to be a Windows 11 problem, as it seems to cause a delay in GPU activation and possibly the monitor to not appear until then.
I lack sufficient knowledge about Windows 11 to understand what's happening. However, there are people who might have experience, so I can ask for advice and get more support here.
With Windows 10 and after installing chipset drivers, have you tried rebooting and checking if the image appears again?
Since some driver installations, particularly for the GPU, can temporarily halt video output, it's unusual. Chipset driver updates are uncommon, usually performed only once during a PC's lifecycle, right after installation. I installed mine eight years ago and don't recall whether my monitor lost the video signal during that time.
It definitely sounds like a Windows 11 issue. I should seek assistance, as I'm more comfortable with hardware problems than software ones.
If the CPU is the problem, you might not even be able to start the operating system. Or if you can, you'd encounter a BSoD on both sides.
The power/reset buttons seem to contribute to the delayed image display. They function like standard switches, connecting two pins on the motherboard to trigger specific actions.
Inquired about the new MoBo (MSI) model and BIOS details regarding the GPU. The dedicated GPU is RTX 4070 or an iGPU? A response was given mentioning that without knowing the exact model, it's hard to check BIOS options for optimization. It seems there might be a problem with the initial boot-up of Windows 11, possibly related to the GPU detection. It would be good to verify the RTX 4070 in another system. Also, during normal OS boot, no image issues appear, but in Safe Mode, no GPU drivers are loaded and only system display drivers are used. This suggests whether the problem lies with the operating system or the GPU hardware.
Since some time has moved forwards, i got more responses to help out your issue. One of them was to "hard reset" the BIOS, since it might help and doesn't hurt to try. Guide here: https://forums.
Did you have a desktop image on 11 until you enabled it? That massgrave site is... intriguing. You may wish to perform a clean install of 11 and avoid using that site, unless your license was the reason for its use—it could potentially deactivate the external GPU or cause other issues. Since the GPU functions in version 10, it should operate in 11 as well. There aren't many differences between the GPU drivers on 10 or 11. The issue might actually lie with the operating system itself.
Sorry for the delay, I tried this card on three different operating systems—Windows 10 and Windows 11 using DDU. I installed several Nvidia drivers, starting from the oldest available in January 2024 up to the present. Problems continued across all three systems with the PNY RTX 4070.
The final attempt on an AMD system instead of my main Intel setup booted into Windows, but once the driver was switched from a generic Microsoft display driver to an Nvidia driver, the memory clock speed of the RTX 4070 fluctuated between 100 and 11000Mhz.
As soon as any Nvidia driver was installed, I experienced artifacts and stuttering. Running Furmark also caused significant stuttering. PNY confirmed the card was faulty and advised me to follow RMA instructions.
I also noted that my original system with Windows 11 activated by Massgrave worked perfectly once I installed an XFX card and updated DDU/fresh drivers. This is my first time encountering these issues, and the 4070 ran smoothly for months before everything changed. I suspect the problem lies with the card itself. Thank you for all the troubleshooting guidance—I’ll update after completing the RMA process.
Edit: It seems the random USB disconnections and other oddities might have been coincidences, leading me to believe I was progressing. I spent six hours this morning trying to resolve the issue across my three systems with this card.
I used several BIOS versions on my main build, including a Beta this morning, but nothing worked. I also disabled the onboard GPU, turned off power-saving settings in the PCIe slot via BIOS, yet it didn’t help. Thank you for all your troubleshooting advice. It seems I’ve tried everything. The three systems had different power supply brands, each with sufficient wattage, and I tested both AMD and Intel platforms.