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Bigking
Member
154
04-27-2024, 10:54 AM
#1
Hey people,
I'm trying to build myself a new rig after my current one of 8 years starts reaching its limits and for that I hope for some input to fine tune the last things, the part list is below.
I hope this is the right place to post this, if you have suggestions where to ask, please let me know.
Use case: Currently just 1080p 144Hz gaming, possibly 1440p in the future and also some software development. I understand my choices are a little overkill, however I want to avoid any upgrades in the next 5+ years and rather spend some extra money now.
Concerns:
Graphics Card: I dislike the 12 GB of VRAM. Should be fine for 1080p, but I didn't really see an alternative since the Ti also has 12GB and the Ti Super is a little over budget I'm afraid. I considered the RX 7900 GRE 16GB, however I really do prefer NVidia due to DLSS, Raytracing and generally their software.
RAM Speed: I just chose 6000 CL30 RAM without thinking much about it, but the specs of my CPU claim it only supports up to 5200MHz, is that a problem?
I want 4TB of storage (currently have 2.7TB in use), the listed M.2 is the best I could find. Is this fine or should I perhaps split this into two 2TB units?
Any other hints are certainly welcome, this is the first time since my last build (which was my first) that I dive back into this topic.
PCPartPicker
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard:
Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX V2 ATX AM5 Motherboard
Memory:
G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Storage:
Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card:
Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card
Case:
be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply:
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Total:
€1880.29
Cheers,
Plexian
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Bigking
04-27-2024, 10:54 AM #1

Hey people,
I'm trying to build myself a new rig after my current one of 8 years starts reaching its limits and for that I hope for some input to fine tune the last things, the part list is below.
I hope this is the right place to post this, if you have suggestions where to ask, please let me know.
Use case: Currently just 1080p 144Hz gaming, possibly 1440p in the future and also some software development. I understand my choices are a little overkill, however I want to avoid any upgrades in the next 5+ years and rather spend some extra money now.
Concerns:
Graphics Card: I dislike the 12 GB of VRAM. Should be fine for 1080p, but I didn't really see an alternative since the Ti also has 12GB and the Ti Super is a little over budget I'm afraid. I considered the RX 7900 GRE 16GB, however I really do prefer NVidia due to DLSS, Raytracing and generally their software.
RAM Speed: I just chose 6000 CL30 RAM without thinking much about it, but the specs of my CPU claim it only supports up to 5200MHz, is that a problem?
I want 4TB of storage (currently have 2.7TB in use), the listed M.2 is the best I could find. Is this fine or should I perhaps split this into two 2TB units?
Any other hints are certainly welcome, this is the first time since my last build (which was my first) that I dive back into this topic.
PCPartPicker
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard:
Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX V2 ATX AM5 Motherboard
Memory:
G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Storage:
Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card:
Gigabyte GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12 GB Video Card
Case:
be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply:
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Total:
€1880.29
Cheers,
Plexian

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imTri
Posting Freak
786
04-27-2024, 11:17 PM
#2
It is recommended to thoroughly review all available documentation about installing and setting up the components. Begin organizing your assembly or build plan while consulting the motherboard’s User Guide or Manual as your primary source. Map out every physical step, incorporating driver needs and configuration details from the start. Ensure nothing is left unclear by addressing every detail. Be mindful of all fine print, restrictions, and quality questions. Check manufacturer forums and FAQs if they exist. Consider both what is mentioned and what is omitted. Work in a tidy, well-lit space with the right tools. Avoid rushing; pause if something doesn’t fit or feels incorrect. The extra time and preparation are well worth the effort.
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imTri
04-27-2024, 11:17 PM #2

It is recommended to thoroughly review all available documentation about installing and setting up the components. Begin organizing your assembly or build plan while consulting the motherboard’s User Guide or Manual as your primary source. Map out every physical step, incorporating driver needs and configuration details from the start. Ensure nothing is left unclear by addressing every detail. Be mindful of all fine print, restrictions, and quality questions. Check manufacturer forums and FAQs if they exist. Consider both what is mentioned and what is omitted. Work in a tidy, well-lit space with the right tools. Avoid rushing; pause if something doesn’t fit or feels incorrect. The extra time and preparation are well worth the effort.

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Pangaea_
Member
191
04-28-2024, 01:56 AM
#3
Check this site for reduced costs on PC parts.
Example: https://geizhals.eu/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-...72867.html
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D €354,85
Need an ATX 3.0 PSU for that card.
PCPartPicker Part List
Motherboard:
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Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
(€173.00 @ Computeruniverse)
Power Supply:
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MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€105.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total:
€278.00
Prices cover shipping, taxes, and available discounts
*Selected lowest-priced components based on criteria
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PCPartPicker
2024-04-09 17:14 CEST+0200
A closer inspection of the board and PSU.
https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-com...plus-wifi/
https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MAG-A850GL-PCIE5
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Pangaea_
04-28-2024, 01:56 AM #3

Check this site for reduced costs on PC parts.
Example: https://geizhals.eu/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-...72867.html
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D €354,85
Need an ATX 3.0 PSU for that card.
PCPartPicker Part List
Motherboard:
*
Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
(€173.00 @ Computeruniverse)
Power Supply:
*
MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€105.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total:
€278.00
Prices cover shipping, taxes, and available discounts
*Selected lowest-priced components based on criteria
Created by
PCPartPicker
2024-04-09 17:14 CEST+0200
A closer inspection of the board and PSU.
https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-com...plus-wifi/
https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MAG-A850GL-PCIE5

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TomHD_v3
Member
54
04-30-2024, 03:32 AM
#4
You're absolutely correct, it's always better to be cautious. That's why I shared my thoughts here; I thought I'd reviewed most of what I already knew before buying, but getting a second opinion is always wise.
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TomHD_v3
04-30-2024, 03:32 AM #4

You're absolutely correct, it's always better to be cautious. That's why I shared my thoughts here; I thought I'd reviewed most of what I already knew before buying, but getting a second opinion is always wise.

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molresa
Junior Member
26
04-30-2024, 04:57 AM
#5
The Asus board is cheaper and of better quality, while the MSI PSU provides an additional 100W.
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molresa
04-30-2024, 04:57 AM #5

The Asus board is cheaper and of better quality, while the MSI PSU provides an additional 100W.

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shelbywood99
Member
172
05-02-2024, 05:06 AM
#6
Examine a similar selection:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
(€374.61 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
(€38.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard:
Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard
(€167.60 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory:
G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€128.89 @ Cyberport)
Storage:
Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€243.99 @ Cyberport)
Video Card:
PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card
(€849.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case:
Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
(€74.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply:
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€117.30 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Overall Cost:
€1995.19
Costs cover shipping, taxes, and available discounts
Created by
PCPartPicker
2024-04-09 18:54 CEST+0200
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shelbywood99
05-02-2024, 05:06 AM #6

Examine a similar selection:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
(€374.61 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler:
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
(€38.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard:
Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard
(€167.60 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory:
G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
(€128.89 @ Cyberport)
Storage:
Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD
(€243.99 @ Cyberport)
Video Card:
PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card
(€849.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case:
Fractal Design Focus 2 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
(€74.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply:
Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(€117.30 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Overall Cost:
€1995.19
Costs cover shipping, taxes, and available discounts
Created by
PCPartPicker
2024-04-09 18:54 CEST+0200

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Wouterman1079
Member
193
05-03-2024, 02:19 PM
#7
I get it. It doesn't seem necessary to have 850W, since 650W seems more than enough; I'll check the board and appreciate it.
@helper800 Your thoughts are right, but the Ti Super costs more than I expected and I'm already overspending a bit. Also, the Crucial M.2 offers much slower read and write speeds than I was hoping for.
Any thoughts on my worries? Is 12GB VRAM really insufficient for my needs? And regarding the RAM speed—what are your concerns?
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Wouterman1079
05-03-2024, 02:19 PM #7

I get it. It doesn't seem necessary to have 850W, since 650W seems more than enough; I'll check the board and appreciate it.
@helper800 Your thoughts are right, but the Ti Super costs more than I expected and I'm already overspending a bit. Also, the Crucial M.2 offers much slower read and write speeds than I was hoping for.
Any thoughts on my worries? Is 12GB VRAM really insufficient for my needs? And regarding the RAM speed—what are your concerns?

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nep24
Member
224
05-06-2024, 10:36 PM
#8
Fair enough.
The real-world performance gap is negligible, yet the cost difference stands at +22%. Neither of these drives includes a DRAM cache.
A 12GB VRAM capacity should suffice for 1080p for another 4 to 5 years, but it will start to show limitations at higher resolutions like 1440p and beyond.
If you opt for a 32GB or more RAM system with an EXPO profile of 6000-6400 MT/s and sub-34 CL first word timings, you’ll be well-equipped with an AMD CPU.
Make sure the RAM model you choose appears on the QVL for your specific motherboard as well.
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nep24
05-06-2024, 10:36 PM #8

Fair enough.
The real-world performance gap is negligible, yet the cost difference stands at +22%. Neither of these drives includes a DRAM cache.
A 12GB VRAM capacity should suffice for 1080p for another 4 to 5 years, but it will start to show limitations at higher resolutions like 1440p and beyond.
If you opt for a 32GB or more RAM system with an EXPO profile of 6000-6400 MT/s and sub-34 CL first word timings, you’ll be well-equipped with an AMD CPU.
Make sure the RAM model you choose appears on the QVL for your specific motherboard as well.

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mat_fram
Posting Freak
776
05-07-2024, 05:06 AM
#9
Alright, didn't really think of that. I'll go with the Crucial then, the price difference is quite big.
Alright. Didn't really check the actual QVL lists, but it seems my board does not work with that particular RAM, so I'll switch to the
Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX
(I had considered it before already).
I appreciate the help, I guess at some point I have to actually commit to purchasing the stuff.
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mat_fram
05-07-2024, 05:06 AM #9

Alright, didn't really think of that. I'll go with the Crucial then, the price difference is quite big.
Alright. Didn't really check the actual QVL lists, but it seems my board does not work with that particular RAM, so I'll switch to the
Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX
(I had considered it before already).
I appreciate the help, I guess at some point I have to actually commit to purchasing the stuff.

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SpoodherMen
Member
65
05-09-2024, 05:30 AM
#10
The Fractal Design Focus 2 currently has only a USB-C port, which is the only one available according to my knowledge. The necessary peripherals need to be purchased separately.

Other options include:
- A tower case for Gigabyte Eagle AX with a USB-C port and one header on the motherboard.
- A case for the Gigabyte NX260 ATX mid-tower.
- A case for Meshify 2, which is more expensive but includes three 140mm fans.
- A case for North ATX mid-tower, which is also reliable and comes with two 140mm fans.
- A case for Fractal Design meshify 2, though it is more costly.

It's worth noting that Meshify 2 is quite pricey but offers three 140mm fans. The North ATX case is another reliable choice, though it requires moving a front fan for a 310mm GPU. The Dark Base remains the most affordable yet, but you'll need to adjust components accordingly. Choosing between WD and G.Skill Flare depends on your specific needs and preferences.
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SpoodherMen
05-09-2024, 05:30 AM #10

The Fractal Design Focus 2 currently has only a USB-C port, which is the only one available according to my knowledge. The necessary peripherals need to be purchased separately.

Other options include:
- A tower case for Gigabyte Eagle AX with a USB-C port and one header on the motherboard.
- A case for the Gigabyte NX260 ATX mid-tower.
- A case for Meshify 2, which is more expensive but includes three 140mm fans.
- A case for North ATX mid-tower, which is also reliable and comes with two 140mm fans.
- A case for Fractal Design meshify 2, though it is more costly.

It's worth noting that Meshify 2 is quite pricey but offers three 140mm fans. The North ATX case is another reliable choice, though it requires moving a front fan for a 310mm GPU. The Dark Base remains the most affordable yet, but you'll need to adjust components accordingly. Choosing between WD and G.Skill Flare depends on your specific needs and preferences.

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