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Gaming on Linux and Security

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Backstaber970
Senior Member
435
10-25-2023, 02:27 PM
#11
They seek out scripts from Github to clean up their Windows 10 systems. Some download tools promising to improve gaming performance and make the operating system feel lighter.
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Backstaber970
10-25-2023, 02:27 PM #11

They seek out scripts from Github to clean up their Windows 10 systems. Some download tools promising to improve gaming performance and make the operating system feel lighter.

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Bibi012
Junior Member
33
11-11-2023, 02:59 PM
#12
*most* people know not to go online and download random files. Its a little different when now you can't even type things into your PC... There is a mental disconnect with most folks here - I shouldn't download things I see on the internet vs I shouldn't type things into my PC I see on the internet. The second is not something most people fully understand.
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Bibi012
11-11-2023, 02:59 PM #12

*most* people know not to go online and download random files. Its a little different when now you can't even type things into your PC... There is a mental disconnect with most folks here - I shouldn't download things I see on the internet vs I shouldn't type things into my PC I see on the internet. The second is not something most people fully understand.

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DarckMoule
Member
160
11-11-2023, 04:31 PM
#13
I don't know, one of the most common pieces of recommended software here is crystaldiskinfo...
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DarckMoule
11-11-2023, 04:31 PM #13

I don't know, one of the most common pieces of recommended software here is crystaldiskinfo...

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JaffaHunters
Member
140
11-11-2023, 09:46 PM
#14
In reality, most desktop settings alert you before executing a script or program, such as requiring you to designate it as executable. By default, GNOME opens files with a text editor, and KDE notifies you when launching an application. Running .exe files through Wine prompts for execution permissions. Most software is typically installed and managed via package systems, which are generally secure and eliminate the need for additional security steps. If people only considered using reliable package managers instead of risky alternatives, things would be much better.
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JaffaHunters
11-11-2023, 09:46 PM #14

In reality, most desktop settings alert you before executing a script or program, such as requiring you to designate it as executable. By default, GNOME opens files with a text editor, and KDE notifies you when launching an application. Running .exe files through Wine prompts for execution permissions. Most software is typically installed and managed via package systems, which are generally secure and eliminate the need for additional security steps. If people only considered using reliable package managers instead of risky alternatives, things would be much better.

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Sussu
Senior Member
708
11-12-2023, 12:01 AM
#15
It differs for several reasons. Initially, a strict permission verification doesn't happen at the kernel level—though Linux offers options like SELinux, they typically require advanced distributions such as Android for desktop use. Secondly, the executable flag can be enabled without your awareness, for instance when unpacking archives, many formats support this setting.
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Sussu
11-12-2023, 12:01 AM #15

It differs for several reasons. Initially, a strict permission verification doesn't happen at the kernel level—though Linux offers options like SELinux, they typically require advanced distributions such as Android for desktop use. Secondly, the executable flag can be enabled without your awareness, for instance when unpacking archives, many formats support this setting.

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Fijiboys777
Member
196
11-12-2023, 02:37 AM
#16
Many .exe files are common in gaming setups. You usually don’t need to run them as admin unless you’re dealing with serious issues. Even tricky problems like audio setup don’t usually mean risky actions.
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Fijiboys777
11-12-2023, 02:37 AM #16

Many .exe files are common in gaming setups. You usually don’t need to run them as admin unless you’re dealing with serious issues. Even tricky problems like audio setup don’t usually mean risky actions.

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AetherMLG
Junior Member
7
11-14-2023, 12:36 AM
#17
Not really. Windows has an anti-virus and you have Smart Screen (digital signature), PUP (potentially unwanted program), and you have UAC prompt as your last line of defense. When you run a Linux script file, typing "sudo" before the name, isn't seen as "last line of defense". Considering that you need to type it often, and many websites suggests to just do "su -", really makes "sudo" as valuable as if you needed to type some "run" command or whatever. It looses a lot of meaning, is what I mean. This is also not helped that your mainstream user has no idea what "sudo" means. Probably thinks it means "Sudoku" or whatever. Also, under Windows, unless you are pirating, or you are desperately trying to mod the OS for something without the use of a reputable software, there is a good chance that you are asking for trouble. Downloading a random .exe to fix a problem is not common at all. Here are talking about: You are trying to run some program/game or trying to get your hardware/peripheral to work, and it doesn't work or shows an error. You Google the error, and you have pages or pages of unknown websites with "solutions" that says to do random things on your system. Considering that Linux has no easy backup/restore solution like Windows System Restore which allows you to back in time to a point before you screw up, and you have OneDrive (or whatever cloud storage you want to use) which backups Documents, Pictures, and so on, or you have File History for a more local/NAS backup solution, screwing up your system under Windows, isn't the end of the world (unless you deny any backup solution, but that is a different topic).But regardless, you can have Windows, from it's recovery tools, re-install itself from the cloud, without affecting your personal files. Programs and drivers would need to be re-installed, but that is about it. Now, in the Windows, yes you have crap websites when you randomly search for Windows error code or BSOD code, instead of using Microsoft documentation. But those essentially stops at: So, beside waiting the user some time, typically, it won't do anything. As for Microsoft Windows Answers forum where "MVPs" can mark their posts as solutions, and do so for ranking (and I think to keep their MVP title, but don't quote me on this), it follows the same crap: And then the user comes back saying this his problem is not solved, and can't find any mini dump file or posts some age old mini dump file, completely unrelated, and the thread is dead, as it has been marked as "Best answer" So again, the very worse, is that the user waisted time. It is harder to screw up a Windows system as you can't do the equivalent of: cd / && rm * -rf at least without A LOT of work, even if you execute the equivalent command under Admin Command Prompt. No one is true Admin under Windows (not without a lot of work)
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AetherMLG
11-14-2023, 12:36 AM #17

Not really. Windows has an anti-virus and you have Smart Screen (digital signature), PUP (potentially unwanted program), and you have UAC prompt as your last line of defense. When you run a Linux script file, typing "sudo" before the name, isn't seen as "last line of defense". Considering that you need to type it often, and many websites suggests to just do "su -", really makes "sudo" as valuable as if you needed to type some "run" command or whatever. It looses a lot of meaning, is what I mean. This is also not helped that your mainstream user has no idea what "sudo" means. Probably thinks it means "Sudoku" or whatever. Also, under Windows, unless you are pirating, or you are desperately trying to mod the OS for something without the use of a reputable software, there is a good chance that you are asking for trouble. Downloading a random .exe to fix a problem is not common at all. Here are talking about: You are trying to run some program/game or trying to get your hardware/peripheral to work, and it doesn't work or shows an error. You Google the error, and you have pages or pages of unknown websites with "solutions" that says to do random things on your system. Considering that Linux has no easy backup/restore solution like Windows System Restore which allows you to back in time to a point before you screw up, and you have OneDrive (or whatever cloud storage you want to use) which backups Documents, Pictures, and so on, or you have File History for a more local/NAS backup solution, screwing up your system under Windows, isn't the end of the world (unless you deny any backup solution, but that is a different topic).But regardless, you can have Windows, from it's recovery tools, re-install itself from the cloud, without affecting your personal files. Programs and drivers would need to be re-installed, but that is about it. Now, in the Windows, yes you have crap websites when you randomly search for Windows error code or BSOD code, instead of using Microsoft documentation. But those essentially stops at: So, beside waiting the user some time, typically, it won't do anything. As for Microsoft Windows Answers forum where "MVPs" can mark their posts as solutions, and do so for ranking (and I think to keep their MVP title, but don't quote me on this), it follows the same crap: And then the user comes back saying this his problem is not solved, and can't find any mini dump file or posts some age old mini dump file, completely unrelated, and the thread is dead, as it has been marked as "Best answer" So again, the very worse, is that the user waisted time. It is harder to screw up a Windows system as you can't do the equivalent of: cd / && rm * -rf at least without A LOT of work, even if you execute the equivalent command under Admin Command Prompt. No one is true Admin under Windows (not without a lot of work)

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FaDs
Member
177
11-14-2023, 05:46 AM
#18
When handling a .tar.gz file that includes an executable, the situation becomes unusual. For it to work properly, it needs to be statically linked and the ABI must match. Otherwise, using it on different systems or older distributions will likely cause issues. Linux relies heavily on package managers and containment tools like snap, flatpaks, or appimages. Doing this outside those frameworks is atypical, even without SELinux, which is designed for specialized tasks. Apparmor is the standard choice on Debian-based systems, while SELinux is typically reserved for more restricted environments.
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FaDs
11-14-2023, 05:46 AM #18

When handling a .tar.gz file that includes an executable, the situation becomes unusual. For it to work properly, it needs to be statically linked and the ABI must match. Otherwise, using it on different systems or older distributions will likely cause issues. Linux relies heavily on package managers and containment tools like snap, flatpaks, or appimages. Doing this outside those frameworks is atypical, even without SELinux, which is designed for specialized tasks. Apparmor is the standard choice on Debian-based systems, while SELinux is typically reserved for more restricted environments.

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