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Willz_03
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07-18-2023, 05:00 PM
#1
The terms differ in meaning. "Cores" and "threads" both refer to processing units, but cores handle independent tasks while threads manage multiple processes. "Multi-tasking" is impacted by the number of cores. Regarding APUs and Intel integrated graphics, basic performance is acceptable, but a full system may be better for tasks like CAD design in a compact setup.
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Willz_03
07-18-2023, 05:00 PM #1

The terms differ in meaning. "Cores" and "threads" both refer to processing units, but cores handle independent tasks while threads manage multiple processes. "Multi-tasking" is impacted by the number of cores. Regarding APUs and Intel integrated graphics, basic performance is acceptable, but a full system may be better for tasks like CAD design in a compact setup.

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sindre2609
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07-18-2023, 06:57 PM
#2
It largely depends on your goals. For Brood War, a single core Athlon 64 is sufficient. For RDR2, you'll need at least 6 cores/threads and about 8 recommended.
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sindre2609
07-18-2023, 06:57 PM #2

It largely depends on your goals. For Brood War, a single core Athlon 64 is sufficient. For RDR2, you'll need at least 6 cores/threads and about 8 recommended.

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killeraapje
Junior Member
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07-24-2023, 03:17 PM
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Technically, programs rely on threads to handle tasks simultaneously. A CPU contains cores that can manage one thread at a time, separate from the others. When software employs more threads than available cores, parallel execution appears through time-slicing. This means the CPU rapidly shifts focus between threads, creating the illusion of parallel processing even though it operates sequentially. Certain processors support simultaneous multi-threading (SMT), also called Hyperthreading for Intel. This method enables a single core to handle multiple threads and/or tasks in parallel, enhancing performance—typically by about 30%. It is also described as a core running with "multiple threads" (often two). The speed of the processor, measured in hertz, indicates how quickly it processes data. Comparing Hz across different CPU designs or generations isn't straightforward; newer chips may not always outperform older ones with higher Hz. Generally, higher frequency correlates with better speed. If software efficiently uses many threads, the number of cores becomes more significant than core speed. Conversely, older programs that don't leverage threads tend to perform better on single-threaded systems. Modern games are gradually adopting multi-core capabilities, improving their ability to utilize multiple cores.
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killeraapje
07-24-2023, 03:17 PM #3

Technically, programs rely on threads to handle tasks simultaneously. A CPU contains cores that can manage one thread at a time, separate from the others. When software employs more threads than available cores, parallel execution appears through time-slicing. This means the CPU rapidly shifts focus between threads, creating the illusion of parallel processing even though it operates sequentially. Certain processors support simultaneous multi-threading (SMT), also called Hyperthreading for Intel. This method enables a single core to handle multiple threads and/or tasks in parallel, enhancing performance—typically by about 30%. It is also described as a core running with "multiple threads" (often two). The speed of the processor, measured in hertz, indicates how quickly it processes data. Comparing Hz across different CPU designs or generations isn't straightforward; newer chips may not always outperform older ones with higher Hz. Generally, higher frequency correlates with better speed. If software efficiently uses many threads, the number of cores becomes more significant than core speed. Conversely, older programs that don't leverage threads tend to perform better on single-threaded systems. Modern games are gradually adopting multi-core capabilities, improving their ability to utilize multiple cores.

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boussango33
Junior Member
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08-10-2023, 07:56 PM
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There are no simple queries, just unwise replies. Cores equal threads unless the processor supports hyperthreading or SMT, in which case these represent logical units managed by the operating system. For ease of understanding, one hyperthread core equals roughly 20% of a real core. Thus, a quad-core chip with eight logical cores appears to offer only four actual cores, but under intense threaded tasks it can behave as if it has half the power. There isn’t a significant boost unless specific optimizations are applied. In server setups, hyperthreading usually adds little value because performance drops with increased load. On desktops, it might work in some cases, but rarely for demanding games. The MHz/GHz figure only tells you the clock speed and is outdated, especially since the Pentium era. Cache sizes greatly influence results—what looks like a strong core count on a low-end chip can be overwhelmed by faster alternatives. The price tag is also a factor; it’s 16 times more expensive. Nevertheless, the single-thread score can differ by about 30% despite only a 300MHz difference. Remember the cost, and keep in mind that the CPU’s speed matters more than the clock rate alone. The L1 and L2 caches are crucial, and a low-end chip with modest cache will struggle against more advanced processors. Even a 3.2GHz Celeron with limited cache will fall behind modern options. The benchmark sample is limited, so results may not be reliable. Notably, the math shows a discrepancy between claimed and actual performance, and the price makes it uneconomical. Your needs might differ, but Autocad 2018 and similar tools depend heavily on memory bandwidth from a dedicated GPU. A regular laptop simply can’t handle CAD tasks well, and integrated graphics won’t suffice for even basic performance. It’s not just about the specs—it’s about whether the hardware can keep up with your workflow. If budget forces you to settle for older specs, expect reduced productivity and wasted resources.
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boussango33
08-10-2023, 07:56 PM #4

There are no simple queries, just unwise replies. Cores equal threads unless the processor supports hyperthreading or SMT, in which case these represent logical units managed by the operating system. For ease of understanding, one hyperthread core equals roughly 20% of a real core. Thus, a quad-core chip with eight logical cores appears to offer only four actual cores, but under intense threaded tasks it can behave as if it has half the power. There isn’t a significant boost unless specific optimizations are applied. In server setups, hyperthreading usually adds little value because performance drops with increased load. On desktops, it might work in some cases, but rarely for demanding games. The MHz/GHz figure only tells you the clock speed and is outdated, especially since the Pentium era. Cache sizes greatly influence results—what looks like a strong core count on a low-end chip can be overwhelmed by faster alternatives. The price tag is also a factor; it’s 16 times more expensive. Nevertheless, the single-thread score can differ by about 30% despite only a 300MHz difference. Remember the cost, and keep in mind that the CPU’s speed matters more than the clock rate alone. The L1 and L2 caches are crucial, and a low-end chip with modest cache will struggle against more advanced processors. Even a 3.2GHz Celeron with limited cache will fall behind modern options. The benchmark sample is limited, so results may not be reliable. Notably, the math shows a discrepancy between claimed and actual performance, and the price makes it uneconomical. Your needs might differ, but Autocad 2018 and similar tools depend heavily on memory bandwidth from a dedicated GPU. A regular laptop simply can’t handle CAD tasks well, and integrated graphics won’t suffice for even basic performance. It’s not just about the specs—it’s about whether the hardware can keep up with your workflow. If budget forces you to settle for older specs, expect reduced productivity and wasted resources.

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08-11-2023, 12:00 AM
#5
Hey team, you've been super helpful, but it looks like I'll stick with 6-core for a friend's budget setup since he uses AutoCAD. Maybe a desk mini could work for him, while keeping his gaming rig with Haswell. Time to start planning—AMD is coming!
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1v1ClubPenquin
08-11-2023, 12:00 AM #5

Hey team, you've been super helpful, but it looks like I'll stick with 6-core for a friend's budget setup since he uses AutoCAD. Maybe a desk mini could work for him, while keeping his gaming rig with Haswell. Time to start planning—AMD is coming!

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santagamezz
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08-11-2023, 06:13 PM
#6
Essentially, using AutoCAD with an integrated GPU won't be fast enough unless your project becomes very complex. The software works best when it meets the same standards as a mobile Quadro 3000. https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/a...lsets.html #AutoCAD 29GB/s is much higher than most built-in GPUs, which range from 12 to 20, and even the top iGPU in laptops I tested only reached around 24. The shared video memory performance is also a concern. Most GTX 1050Ti models hit the recommended speed at 112GB/s, but a 4GB model is necessary. All 16xx and 20xx parts exceed these requirements.
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santagamezz
08-11-2023, 06:13 PM #6

Essentially, using AutoCAD with an integrated GPU won't be fast enough unless your project becomes very complex. The software works best when it meets the same standards as a mobile Quadro 3000. https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/a...lsets.html #AutoCAD 29GB/s is much higher than most built-in GPUs, which range from 12 to 20, and even the top iGPU in laptops I tested only reached around 24. The shared video memory performance is also a concern. Most GTX 1050Ti models hit the recommended speed at 112GB/s, but a 4GB model is necessary. All 16xx and 20xx parts exceed these requirements.