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From a tech perspective or others' input?

From a tech perspective or others' input?

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Livs2004
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06-23-2016, 06:05 AM
#11
I recently upgraded from a Haswell i7 and noticed something similar in your setup. There’s a concern about the PS5’s end, especially when it requires all 16 threads—so I went for a 12700 CPU, which ended up being too powerful for its price. The better choice would likely be a 13400F, though it hasn’t arrived yet. There aren’t any non-K 13th generation options available yet. I tried an underclocked, undervolted 6800X because it was affordable (and helped with noise and power). It’s currently handling around 4k at 100Hz with some FSS adjustments working well. I expect eventually I’ll need to accept the noise to maintain performance.
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Livs2004
06-23-2016, 06:05 AM #11

I recently upgraded from a Haswell i7 and noticed something similar in your setup. There’s a concern about the PS5’s end, especially when it requires all 16 threads—so I went for a 12700 CPU, which ended up being too powerful for its price. The better choice would likely be a 13400F, though it hasn’t arrived yet. There aren’t any non-K 13th generation options available yet. I tried an underclocked, undervolted 6800X because it was affordable (and helped with noise and power). It’s currently handling around 4k at 100Hz with some FSS adjustments working well. I expect eventually I’ll need to accept the noise to maintain performance.

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bengalwatcher
Posting Freak
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06-23-2016, 07:37 AM
#12
I haven't owned a Haswell i7 before, so I'm not sure... What upgrades were made? Or are you referring to something inside your PS5... Also, what did you mean by suspicion about the PS5? 13th generation? I'm still on 6th/7th generation, oO
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bengalwatcher
06-23-2016, 07:37 AM #12

I haven't owned a Haswell i7 before, so I'm not sure... What upgrades were made? Or are you referring to something inside your PS5... Also, what did you mean by suspicion about the PS5? 13th generation? I'm still on 6th/7th generation, oO

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fiskmasen05
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06-29-2016, 07:28 PM
#13
Yeah, but that’s still part of the overall lineup that Intel built. I’m not sure when TPM was added. You’ll need TPM1 to handle early versions of Windows 11 and TPM2 for later ones. The latest Windows version runs on a 7th generation chip. The 13th generation (LGA1700) is just now available. I think you’ve heard about the manufacturing issues Intel faced? The 12th generation (also LGA1700) was the first chip they made that moved away from older designs with different IHS shapes and cooling solutions that have been struggling lately. There’s a lot of buzz around big cooling enthusiasts and enthusiasts. The 212evo and Noctua series have taken over. They’re not the top performers anymore. Haswell was the name for the 4th generation, and the i7s in that line were 4770, 4790, and similar models. Also known as LGA1150 or 1151. Before that was Ivy Bridge, which came after Sandy Bridge. I just swapped a 4770K for a 12700.
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fiskmasen05
06-29-2016, 07:28 PM #13

Yeah, but that’s still part of the overall lineup that Intel built. I’m not sure when TPM was added. You’ll need TPM1 to handle early versions of Windows 11 and TPM2 for later ones. The latest Windows version runs on a 7th generation chip. The 13th generation (LGA1700) is just now available. I think you’ve heard about the manufacturing issues Intel faced? The 12th generation (also LGA1700) was the first chip they made that moved away from older designs with different IHS shapes and cooling solutions that have been struggling lately. There’s a lot of buzz around big cooling enthusiasts and enthusiasts. The 212evo and Noctua series have taken over. They’re not the top performers anymore. Haswell was the name for the 4th generation, and the i7s in that line were 4770, 4790, and similar models. Also known as LGA1150 or 1151. Before that was Ivy Bridge, which came after Sandy Bridge. I just swapped a 4770K for a 12700.

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swampywig
Junior Member
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07-08-2016, 05:00 AM
#14
I haven't encountered much about the problems with Intel... I've mainly heard about GPU issues. I've kept out of newer areas where Nano is working, and anything released after Radeon VII has been kind of skipped due to the strict regulations... I still use 2017/2019 drivers on my AMD GPU, and my Intel CPU is from 2013, which is a 7th generation—so that's fine. Beyond that, I'm not sure what to expect. I'm considering the AMD Threadripper 64 Core 3rd Gen, possibly for a Zeneth II board, but I'm still undecided... After that, I might get a 16GB DDR4 RAM with an NVidia GTX 770 GPU and an Intel 8th/9th generation CPU, or something similar.
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swampywig
07-08-2016, 05:00 AM #14

I haven't encountered much about the problems with Intel... I've mainly heard about GPU issues. I've kept out of newer areas where Nano is working, and anything released after Radeon VII has been kind of skipped due to the strict regulations... I still use 2017/2019 drivers on my AMD GPU, and my Intel CPU is from 2013, which is a 7th generation—so that's fine. Beyond that, I'm not sure what to expect. I'm considering the AMD Threadripper 64 Core 3rd Gen, possibly for a Zeneth II board, but I'm still undecided... After that, I might get a 16GB DDR4 RAM with an NVidia GTX 770 GPU and an Intel 8th/9th generation CPU, or something similar.

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snoepjez
Member
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07-08-2016, 06:01 AM
#15
Really? This wasn't just about technology—it was also national news. Late-night hosts joked about it. The situation involved a chip that lasted for years. My memory is tied to the Radeon, while AMD’s Ryzen lineup challenged Intel head-on. The Ryzen2 chips used different components called chipsets instead of monolithic dies. This meant they could be split into pieces and assembled into a single chip. There were some benefits: the modules came in sizes like 3 or 4 cores, which allowed for more configurations (4/8, 6/12, etc.). They were cheaper because of this design and could handle more cores without breaking the bank. An AMD 3700X with eight cores kept up with an Intel 9600 while being more affordable and multithreaded better. Zen3 offered stronger single-thread and multithread performance compared to Intel’s 11th gen. The 5600X was faster for multiple threads than the 3700X, though a 11400F was tested against it. Many switched to AMD for Zen2 and even more for Zen3. There are also specialized chips like zen3D, which boosted gaming performance but weren’t as versatile. Threadripper stands apart—it’s a different path, and Intel doesn’t really push against it. Xenon competes with Epic. I don’t know much about Threadripper, edited December 13, 2022 by Bombastinator.
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snoepjez
07-08-2016, 06:01 AM #15

Really? This wasn't just about technology—it was also national news. Late-night hosts joked about it. The situation involved a chip that lasted for years. My memory is tied to the Radeon, while AMD’s Ryzen lineup challenged Intel head-on. The Ryzen2 chips used different components called chipsets instead of monolithic dies. This meant they could be split into pieces and assembled into a single chip. There were some benefits: the modules came in sizes like 3 or 4 cores, which allowed for more configurations (4/8, 6/12, etc.). They were cheaper because of this design and could handle more cores without breaking the bank. An AMD 3700X with eight cores kept up with an Intel 9600 while being more affordable and multithreaded better. Zen3 offered stronger single-thread and multithread performance compared to Intel’s 11th gen. The 5600X was faster for multiple threads than the 3700X, though a 11400F was tested against it. Many switched to AMD for Zen2 and even more for Zen3. There are also specialized chips like zen3D, which boosted gaming performance but weren’t as versatile. Threadripper stands apart—it’s a different path, and Intel doesn’t really push against it. Xenon competes with Epic. I don’t know much about Threadripper, edited December 13, 2022 by Bombastinator.

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TeslaX007
Member
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07-15-2016, 08:08 PM
#16
Really? It wasn’t only about technology—it was also national news. Late-night hosts made light of it. I haven’t had TV or internet for a couple of years now, and the only shows I’ve seen were Jimmy Kimmel for a few months when the 2020 election was happening, mostly just Trump jokes. Now Today is shifting to Biden jokes, right? Who cares about logic anymore, huh? If it’s not chaotic, people aren’t getting sick—I’ll take my chances... And shooting things up? Then you’re not living in USA Today, are you? Wow, what’s going on? -- This is how people talk about it? -- About Threadripper & EPIC – Last I checked, the 64-core model was so strong they ran a 4K movie without a GPU to test its limits. It probably handled it, producing quality results. It seems capable enough to rival GPUs on the market, isn’t it? Is that really what a CPU can do...? But as an AM4 chip, I wasn’t sure about RAM or GPU compatibility. I dislike all this new tech, but I do like this particular CPU and have seen good motherboards for it. As for EPIC, it’s supposed to be the server version of Threadripper—so it’s not meant for regular computers. So you probably wouldn’t want one either... Regarding Intel and Ryzen, I’ve been using a standard Intel I7 since 2013 or so. They haven’t caused any issues for me. The Ryzen ones just didn’t make sense to me in terms of performance compared to Intel, though they had drivers that I customized. But with today’s strict regulations, I’m not sure anymore. I don’t think Threadripper users rely on Ryzen drivers at all—since they’re not Ryzen CPUs now. In terms of generations, I’m trying to steer clear of bad drivers and all the fuss about nano stuff. So if I get a Threadripper with a Radeon VII GPU, I’ll probably stick to the earliest drivers, hoping they haven’t started having problems yet. I mostly avoid Intel 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th Ryzen models and newer Threadripper lines, plus any newer GPUs or AMD cards after the Radeon VII launch. -- Nano Tech – Turning off backlight displays, automatic updates, single-core performance, triple-pixel graphics—I want to avoid these issues.
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TeslaX007
07-15-2016, 08:08 PM #16

Really? It wasn’t only about technology—it was also national news. Late-night hosts made light of it. I haven’t had TV or internet for a couple of years now, and the only shows I’ve seen were Jimmy Kimmel for a few months when the 2020 election was happening, mostly just Trump jokes. Now Today is shifting to Biden jokes, right? Who cares about logic anymore, huh? If it’s not chaotic, people aren’t getting sick—I’ll take my chances... And shooting things up? Then you’re not living in USA Today, are you? Wow, what’s going on? -- This is how people talk about it? -- About Threadripper & EPIC – Last I checked, the 64-core model was so strong they ran a 4K movie without a GPU to test its limits. It probably handled it, producing quality results. It seems capable enough to rival GPUs on the market, isn’t it? Is that really what a CPU can do...? But as an AM4 chip, I wasn’t sure about RAM or GPU compatibility. I dislike all this new tech, but I do like this particular CPU and have seen good motherboards for it. As for EPIC, it’s supposed to be the server version of Threadripper—so it’s not meant for regular computers. So you probably wouldn’t want one either... Regarding Intel and Ryzen, I’ve been using a standard Intel I7 since 2013 or so. They haven’t caused any issues for me. The Ryzen ones just didn’t make sense to me in terms of performance compared to Intel, though they had drivers that I customized. But with today’s strict regulations, I’m not sure anymore. I don’t think Threadripper users rely on Ryzen drivers at all—since they’re not Ryzen CPUs now. In terms of generations, I’m trying to steer clear of bad drivers and all the fuss about nano stuff. So if I get a Threadripper with a Radeon VII GPU, I’ll probably stick to the earliest drivers, hoping they haven’t started having problems yet. I mostly avoid Intel 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th Ryzen models and newer Threadripper lines, plus any newer GPUs or AMD cards after the Radeon VII launch. -- Nano Tech – Turning off backlight displays, automatic updates, single-core performance, triple-pixel graphics—I want to avoid these issues.

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grapplermad
Junior Member
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07-16-2016, 12:44 AM
#17
You seem to be missing internet for a while, which is unusual. You might have outdated information then, so I’d focus on fixing that first before worrying about monitors or CPUs. Using older methods works, at least. If you’re concerned about system reliability and control, the Microsoft environment isn’t very transparent—comparable to Apple. But if you switch to Linux, you avoid even the issues with x86 complications.
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grapplermad
07-16-2016, 12:44 AM #17

You seem to be missing internet for a while, which is unusual. You might have outdated information then, so I’d focus on fixing that first before worrying about monitors or CPUs. Using older methods works, at least. If you’re concerned about system reliability and control, the Microsoft environment isn’t very transparent—comparable to Apple. But if you switch to Linux, you avoid even the issues with x86 complications.

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