FPS decreases when viewing objects at a distance?
FPS decreases when viewing objects at a distance?
Hello there!
I’m dealing with an issue where my FPS drops to 40fps or even lower, sometimes staying steady at 46 or 47fps, and then jumps back to around 30fps from a stable 75fps. This happens even when I’m playing at full resolution. The problem appears consistently in games like GTAIV, GTAV, and GTA:SA, but not in newer titles such as The Crew 2, Watch Dogs 2, or Watch Dogs: Legion. It occurs regardless of whether I enable or disable V-Sync.
The issue isn’t limited to one game; it affects a few of them. I’ve noticed the drop is more noticeable in certain areas, especially when playing in the City mode, but it disappears in other zones.
Here’s a link to a video showing the FPS drop from GTAV:
(1) https://youtu.be/_5hTt5lm0sk
There’s also a strange FPS reduction in Watch Dogs: Legion, which I can see in my own recording:
(1) https://youtu.be/xInAV-oSCVk
(2) https://youtu.be/uhdwgdRjaYw
At first, I thought it might be a rendering or loading issue since most of my games are on an HDD, but the problem persists even after switching to an SSD.
My PC specs:
- AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (Base clock)
- Sapphire RX580 4GB Pulse
- MSI B450M Gaming Plus
- 16GB RAM (Dual channel)
- Digital Alliance 550W PSU (80+ bronze)
- AOC Monitor @75Hz
I upgraded my GPU from Asus RX 460 to RX 580 recently. When using that, I still experience a small frame drop (2 or 5 fps), which is normal and manageable. However, after the upgrade to RX 580, the issue becomes more severe.
My PSU was GameMax 450W 80+ bronze (not ideal, but sufficient for a while), and I upgraded it to a Digital Alliance model as listed.
Anyone has any insights or solutions?
Ex-mining GPUs can still be decent, it depends on the original model and the miner's skill. If it were an AIB 580 with a knowledgeable miner who maintains his GPUs and ensures the BIOS is properly updated before shipping, plus everything functions well, it works well. On the other hand, a Yeston/Chinese brand RX 580 with a miner who pushes it to the thermal limit in a hot environment, and without correct BIOS updates, may show unstable performance, possibly refusing to work with standard AMD drivers.
It looks like you're familiar with the area, OP. I notice GameMax and DA PSUs are common here. If that's the case, good luck with the 580—it's priced near its MSRP.
You might be seeing reduced performance on the 580 versus the 460 model?
Also, keep an eye on temperatures, clock speed, and power usage for the GPU while gaming. Use the RTSS overlay to verify if the clockspeed and power levels are suitable for an RX 580. If they're not, it could indicate throttling; check the temps, power, or other factors.
Worse performance overall, No, but the frame drop is really bothering me, I believe that's not happen when I'm using 460, I realize the problem after upgrade to 580 because the frame drop is huge and noticeable.
I got the 580 last September actually, I got distracted because I'm playing
RDR2
too much lol, and yeah meanwhile in
RDR2
everything is fine! including the temps, power, etc because I always use MSI Afterburner to monitoring . At first my580 is taking too much heat, temps are about 76' and the fan really loud when playing
RDR2
(that game is really heavy) but I already change the thermal paste and the temp back to normal around 60 - 65'. Oh I'm
Undervolting
it by the way, is it the problem?
And for the CPU usage, GPU usage, both CPU and GPU temp is normal while CPU is around 50' and 60' max (I'm using stock cooler) and GPU around 60' and 65' max while gaming.
At least it feels normal to me, because even in
GTA:SA
the problem is occuring too.
And when I'm replacing the GPU, I'm not clean install my Windows and previous AMD Driver, because when I turn on my PC it works fine and turns out the AMD Driver is the same! and later that I'm updating the Driver properly for
RX580
*note:
the problem still happen even though I'm lowering the in-game settings
Undervolting could be the problem, see if it helps by using stock settings instead. WD2 isn't as well optimized as RDR2, so that could add a factor to the issue as well. The game engine isn't playing nice with GPU settings.
Or, that the voltage isn't really stable. You're not hitting stable clocks, but monitoring software don't usually picks up on that.
76 degrees is fine for a 580. I had one and it runs at 82-83 degrees maxed out. The limit is 85 degrees, and the GPU will manage itself to stay under that temperature.
I don't see why you should DDU it, it's to be used when you're changing from Nvidia to AMD or vice versa. Or otherwise when the issue is positively related to drivers. Moving from a 460 to 580 shouldn't necessitate a DDU.
Well, it seems WD Legion isn't as optimized since it loses performance significantly when driving or moving the camera slightly faster. The biggest drop is visible in the video above. Perhaps I'll switch to stock settings; I'm undervolting it because the fan sounds too loud during RDR2, and this adjustment fixed the noise. Since undervolting improves GPU efficiency, I prefer it. My concern is whether it's typical for the fan to be very loud at stock settings while running demanding games, and if CMIIW doesn't work well with AMD Driver—maybe because MSI Afterburner includes its own clock settings? Upgrading from AMD to AMD might be okay.
None of the three WD games are well optimized for fairness.
It seems that sometimes the settings adjusted in AMD's driver don't last and reset automatically. I just check my fan curve and other parameters occasionally.
Using a custom fan curve might be better; it helps balance noise and performance.
Undervolting is like overclocking, we're looking for a point on the VF curve where at a certain voltage we can achieve a specific clock speed. Undervolt works in the opposite direction of OC, but the same idea applies. As you know, OC can be unstable easily. The main concern is stability—small issues can appear from an unstable OC or UV that isn't fully reliable.
Which 580 model do you have? Some versions are noisier than others.
Maybe I'll experiment with the fan curve adjustments. Is undervolting also prone to instability?
I'm using an RX580 with 4GB from Sapphire Pulse.
I'm just testing the default settings, not undervolting this time, and playing GTA:SA for a quick check, but the issue still occurs. I don't know why it happens even in GTA:SA.
I'm just as confused as you are, but maybe it could help? Logically it shouldn't matter since you're upgrading within the same architecture (GCN 4). It's a simple troubleshooting method, really.
Undervolting might cause instability, similar to overclocking. My old 580 struggles with undervolting without crashing.
A 4GB model? Has it been tried for mining before? I've heard some miners use 4GB models because they're a bit more affordable than the full 8GB versions. Plus, this particular model tends to be quieter. Sapphire Nitro is the quieter option.
I'll attempt to use DDU later to check if it resolves the issue, and perhaps reinstall my Windows for a fresh start.
I'm uncertain if it's used for mining before, but likely yes—since the card is second-hand and the thermal paste has dried, I'm reapplying it.
Does ex-mining affect performance? If we're talking about performance, it's quite good overall. The only drawback is a noticeable FPS drop at a distance in some games I mentioned earlier. Physically, the GPU appears brand new—no dust and temperatures are normal—but I plan to replace the thermal paste eventually.