Fixing Unusually Low Frame Rates Despite High-End Components
Fixing Unusually Low Frame Rates Despite High-End Components
So, I just built my new rig with a EVGA hybrid cooled 2080 Super and an AMD R7 3800x. I also have the CPU Liquid Cooled by the Corsair H100i Platinum Liquid Cooler. I will post the remainder of my system specs now:
Computer Information:
Manufacturer: System manufacturer
Model: System Product Name
Form Factor: Desktop
No Touch Input Detected
Processor Information:
CPU Vendor: AuthenticAMD
CPU Brand: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 8-Core Processor
CPU Family: 0x17
CPU Model: 0x71
CPU Stepping: 0x0
CPU Type: 0x0
Speed: 3893 Mhz
16 logical processors
8 physical processors
HyperThreading: Supported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported
SSE3: Supported
SSSE3: Supported
SSE4a: Supported
SSE41: Supported
SSE42: Supported
AES: Supported
AVX: Supported
CMPXCHG16B: Supported
LAHF/SAHF: Supported
PrefetchW: Unsupported
Operating System Version:
Windows 10 (64 bit)
NTFS: Supported
Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0
Video Card:
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER
DirectX Driver Name: nvldumd.dll
Driver Version: 26.21.14.3602
DirectX Driver Version: 26.21.14.3602
Driver Date: 8 16 2019
OpenGL Version: 4.6
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 143 Hz
DirectX Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER
VendorID: 0x10de
DeviceID: 0x1e81
Revision: 0xa1
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 2560 x 1440
Desktop Resolution: 2560 x 1440
Primary Display Size: 23.54" x 13.23" (26.97" diag)
59.8cm x 33.6cm (68.5cm diag)
Primary Bus: PCI Express 16x
Primary VRAM: 8191 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x
Sound card:
Audio device: Dell S2716DG (2- NVIDIA High De
Memory:
RAM: 16302 Mb
Miscellaneous:
UI Language: English
Media Type: Undetermined
Total Hard Disk Space Available: 3337865 Mb
Largest Free Hard Disk Block: 1879626 Mb
OS Install Date: Dec 31 1969
Game Controller: Controller (SteelSeries Stratus Duo) detected
VR Headset: None detected
I wanted to test it out with Battlefield 1, a favorite of mine, and I got...poor frame rates and a weird DX Crash error wherein my GPU was apparently removed? The weirdness of THAT aside, I then proceeded to give my GPU a modest +115 OC along with some raising to its power limit and MEM clocks as well (Via MSI Afterburner). After this, I switched my PC to AMD High Performance Plan AND I turned Bf1 to High Performance in the Nvidia Control Panel. Now I get a VERY unstable 120fps average in BF1 with max ultra everything at 1440p. Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't my GPU be able to reach the 144Hz refresh rate of my monitor with ease? I even turned down AA and A-filtering and it STILL just fluxuates from 75 to 120 wildly. The last thing I tried was changing my PhysX Engine to my GPU and that did nothing. Please help me. Could it be a CPU bottleneck? Idk. I am afraid to OC my new CPU. I should not have to. My GPU barely even touches around 100% usage in game, choosing rather to fluxuate between 75% and 90%. WHY is this happening (sadness). This system is BRAND new. I do not understand. Yes my drivers for the GPU are all up to date and I am 99% sure my chipset drivers for the CPU are too. Thank you!
[EDIT]---The crashing keeps happening...please help.
Consult your MB product support page’s update section for potential BIOS revisions optimized for the latest Ryzen 3000 series. RAM speed is crucial for optimal Ryzen performance; a minimum of 3200 MHz is recommended. Setting the NCP Power Management to “Prefer Max Performance” is generally sufficient, as these settings can sometimes clash. Windows' power plan tends to default to “High Performance,” while NCP allows per-game adjustments to maximum settings – this approach is superior because NCP maintains maximum performance only when a game is active. Maintain your Windows power plan on “Balanced.” However, achieving ultra settings for games like BF1 at 1440p is different from expecting the same performance at 144Hz…
Review your MB product page’s support section for potential BIOS revisions that could enhance compatibility with the latest Ryzen 3000 processors. RAM speed is crucial for optimal Ryzen performance; a minimum of 3200 MHz is recommended. Setting the NCP Power Management to “Prefer Maximum Performance” is also beneficial, as this setting and Windows' power plan can sometimes create conflicts. While Windows tends to maintain a High Performance profile continuously, NCP allows you to configure individual game settings for maximum performance. However, NCP’s settings only apply while a game is active, making it the more effective approach. Keep your Windows 10 power plan on Balanced.
Nevertheless, achieving ultra settings in games like Battlefield 1 at 1440p is different from consistently maintaining 144 frames per second at 144Hz. This becomes particularly challenging when encountering demanding sections like the Arditi mission, which can exhibit occasional lag. Furthermore, even Ryzen 3000 series chips experience twice the latency of Intel processors, largely due to their reliance on RAM speed.
Finding 3800X models is currently limited, especially with older titles; however, one user consistently achieves frame rates below 120 in Battlefield IV with a similar GPU and a 9900K (on a 144Hz display at 1440p). Frame rates will generally be more stable on an Intel system.
Ok so I have kinda just accepted that it won't reach my desired framerate. It still shouldn't be lag spiking to THIS degree right? I mean...My laptop with a 1070 and a 7700hq I7 ran this game smoother than this. Surely there is something wrong. My CPU won't even boost to the advertised 4.5! I have never even seen it boost past 4.3 IN GAME. I just feel sorta disappointed and confused is all.
Let’s clarify your system specifications. Could you please specify your RAM speed instead of simply providing the System Info file? Additionally, what power supply unit (PSU) are you utilizing? Have you identified your motherboard and verified if a BIOS update designed for Ryzen 3000 processors is available – often labeled as ‘new’ or ‘latest’?
Graphics cards like RTX models can exhibit unpredictable behavior in certain games. Many attribute this to the GDDR6 video memory (VRAM). However, it may be dependent on the specific titles you're playing; for example, *Battlefield 1* sometimes suffers from optimization issues. You might want to experiment with other games, such as *Ghost Recon Wildlands*, if you have access to it.
Furthermore, I recommend maintaining your GPU at its default settings to rule out any instability caused by an overclock.
I have a Gskill Trident memory configuration of 16GB, running at 3600 MHz. My power supply is the Corsair RM850x, and my motherboard is an ASUS ROG Crosshair Hero VIII. I’m utilizing what appears to be the most recent BIOS version. I'm unfamiliar with CPU-specific BIOS updates but have installed the latest available revision. It’s perplexing; the game generally performs well until it experiences sudden, intermittent lag spikes lasting approximately 15 seconds before returning to a normal state. This could potentially be related to my graphics card? I own an EVGA Hybrid-cooled 2080 Super for comparison. The GPU usage data suggests a possible power problem. I’m at a loss and haven't been able to resolve the issue all day; I’m still seeking assistance. Thank you!
Is your game utilizing DirectX 11 or DirectX 12? If DirectX 12 is active, attempting to disable it and force DirectX 11 might be beneficial. Modifying the field-of-view rate (FFR) could also assist within the game. Results may vary; increased lookahead frames can inadvertently lead to perceived input lag. Achieving consistently flawless 144Hz performance demands frame times of 6.9 milliseconds, across all frames. Considering your NVIDIA graphics card, implementing a G-Sync variable refresh monitor – if not already in use – could provide some support. This would involve a detailed discussion regarding frame timings.
That’s quite an impressive configuration, provided the memory operates at 3600 MHz instead of being aggressively overclocked; if it is pushed higher, stick with its default speed using XMP. As long as it achieves at least 3200 MHz, performance should be satisfactory. When considering RAM, stability is just as crucial as sheer speed.
As I previously mentioned, consistently achieving 144 frames per second on Ultra settings and at 1440p resolution, even with a 2080 Super graphics card, is a significant accomplishment – and the preceding video demonstrates this effectively, even with a processor possessing greater raw processing power.
As the previous commenter confirmed, it’s a rather intricate process, and the monitor you utilize can also play a role. However, I want to emphasize that Intel processors maintain a narrower range of frame rates than even newer Ryzen models. Personally, I would avoid a Ryzen unless all my gaming was performed while streaming.
Regarding this matter, here are my key considerations…
Intel for pure gaming performance, Ryzen for streaming applications
144Hz+ monitors are ideal for competitive eSports titles that consistently produce high frame rates
I’m definitely not a gamer broadcasting live, but I do desire enhanced multi-tasking capabilities on a secondary computer while keeping costs down. The Ryzen processor appeared to be the most suitable choice for my needs. I’m presently using a Dell 2716DG G-Sync monitor. I want to emphasize this point: other games function properly, so it likely isn't an issue with the graphics card. It could potentially be a compatibility problem – Ryzen doesn’t work well with Battlefield, and RTX cards have similar issues with that game? My central processing unit remains stuck at 4.35 GHz, never achieving its advertised 4.5 GHz boost. Something appears to be seriously amiss. The frame rate fluctuates drastically, dropping from 160 FPS for about ten minutes before experiencing significant lag spikes followed by a crash and an error message indicating that my graphics card was disconnected. I am indeed utilizing DirectX 11.