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UDK
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02-01-2021, 08:58 AM
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Upgrading my laptop with a 500 GB SSD and transferring system files to it has changed how data is managed. The video suggests using separate paging files for the SSD and HDD, both system-managed. This means files related to system operations will likely be stored in the SSD's paging file, while excess working files might go into the HDD's paging file. I'm confirming if this explanation matches what I saw. The system is now running with 16 GB of dual-channel RAM at 2400 MT/s under Windows 11.
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UDK
02-01-2021, 08:58 AM #1

Upgrading my laptop with a 500 GB SSD and transferring system files to it has changed how data is managed. The video suggests using separate paging files for the SSD and HDD, both system-managed. This means files related to system operations will likely be stored in the SSD's paging file, while excess working files might go into the HDD's paging file. I'm confirming if this explanation matches what I saw. The system is now running with 16 GB of dual-channel RAM at 2400 MT/s under Windows 11.

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Repusha
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02-01-2021, 10:21 AM
#2
With 16GB of RAM and a swap file on your SSD, it’s best to eliminate the one installed on your HDD. The HDD is significantly slower than the SSD in all aspects.
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Repusha
02-01-2021, 10:21 AM #2

With 16GB of RAM and a swap file on your SSD, it’s best to eliminate the one installed on your HDD. The HDD is significantly slower than the SSD in all aspects.

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_ImSky_
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02-01-2021, 11:24 PM
#3
Avoid using your laptop's HDD for everyday tasks—it turns into an external storage option but drains battery life significantly. Don't rely on page files on hard drives either. A nearly full SSD (like running many programs at once while using PC Mark and moving large folders) still offers more performance than a completely empty HDD. SSDs typically handle 300K to 1M operations per second, whereas hard drives usually manage only 100-200 operations per second, which is about 10,000 times slower in extreme cases.
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_ImSky_
02-01-2021, 11:24 PM #3

Avoid using your laptop's HDD for everyday tasks—it turns into an external storage option but drains battery life significantly. Don't rely on page files on hard drives either. A nearly full SSD (like running many programs at once while using PC Mark and moving large folders) still offers more performance than a completely empty HDD. SSDs typically handle 300K to 1M operations per second, whereas hard drives usually manage only 100-200 operations per second, which is about 10,000 times slower in extreme cases.

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Sibertho
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02-09-2021, 02:15 AM
#4
I transferred all heavy applications (Autodesk, Photoshop and others) to the SSD while keeping images, documents, a local copy on one drive, and downloads folder on the HDD. It resides inside the laptop but functions like an external HDD for bulk storage. I’m considering moving it outside the laptop, though I didn’t want to restrict its speed to USB limits. Since paging files require frequent writes to the drive, I added another paging file on the HDD to help extend its lifespan.
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Sibertho
02-09-2021, 02:15 AM #4

I transferred all heavy applications (Autodesk, Photoshop and others) to the SSD while keeping images, documents, a local copy on one drive, and downloads folder on the HDD. It resides inside the laptop but functions like an external HDD for bulk storage. I’m considering moving it outside the laptop, though I didn’t want to restrict its speed to USB limits. Since paging files require frequent writes to the drive, I added another paging file on the HDD to help extend its lifespan.

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jorgen9
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02-10-2021, 12:00 PM
#5
To lessen the stress on the SSD, I considered adding another paging file to the HDD instead of relying solely on the drive.
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jorgen9
02-10-2021, 12:00 PM #5

To lessen the stress on the SSD, I considered adding another paging file to the HDD instead of relying solely on the drive.

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JRiley
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02-10-2021, 12:50 PM
#6
A USB 3 connection (300+ MB/s) usually outperforms a typical hard drive (100-200 MB/s, likely slower on a laptop) in terms of speed. Response time will also be superior compared to what a hard drive can offer. Some extra processing is expected, but you completely miss the mark when it comes to hard drive slowness. While SSDs do experience wear over time, NAND failure isn't the main cause of their demise—it's more about controller issues or chip malfunctions. The biggest issue would be using the SSD for logging data (like SLOG in ZFS), which puts a lot of stress on the chips. You're not doing that. This is essentially a situation where you're being overly optimistic about your setup. Full transparency—I shared these same doubts back in 2009, and they’re irrelevant now.
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JRiley
02-10-2021, 12:50 PM #6

A USB 3 connection (300+ MB/s) usually outperforms a typical hard drive (100-200 MB/s, likely slower on a laptop) in terms of speed. Response time will also be superior compared to what a hard drive can offer. Some extra processing is expected, but you completely miss the mark when it comes to hard drive slowness. While SSDs do experience wear over time, NAND failure isn't the main cause of their demise—it's more about controller issues or chip malfunctions. The biggest issue would be using the SSD for logging data (like SLOG in ZFS), which puts a lot of stress on the chips. You're not doing that. This is essentially a situation where you're being overly optimistic about your setup. Full transparency—I shared these same doubts back in 2009, and they’re irrelevant now.

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eskzz
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02-10-2021, 11:23 PM
#7
Well, it is my first time using an internal SSD, so I guess I have got a bit more learning to do. Thank you for the advice.
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eskzz
02-10-2021, 11:23 PM #7

Well, it is my first time using an internal SSD, so I guess I have got a bit more learning to do. Thank you for the advice.

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1234qaz12qaz
Posting Freak
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02-13-2021, 08:38 PM
#8
Mostly simple to use. It should function well with current Windows versions. Enjoy the upgrade!
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1234qaz12qaz
02-13-2021, 08:38 PM #8

Mostly simple to use. It should function well with current Windows versions. Enjoy the upgrade!

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FayerLow
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02-15-2021, 06:18 AM
#9
You won't exhaust an SSD from paging operations. You don't need to worry about SSD durability. Its lifespan will surpass the practical use period of your laptop, unless you're performing very heavy writing tasks, which are uncommon.
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FayerLow
02-15-2021, 06:18 AM #9

You won't exhaust an SSD from paging operations. You don't need to worry about SSD durability. Its lifespan will surpass the practical use period of your laptop, unless you're performing very heavy writing tasks, which are uncommon.

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GamingOcelot
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03-05-2021, 02:50 PM
#10
No... Its best to leave page file at default settings *especially* for people that don't understand how it works, its a none issue. its only an issue when users think they need to change it for whatever reason.
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GamingOcelot
03-05-2021, 02:50 PM #10

No... Its best to leave page file at default settings *especially* for people that don't understand how it works, its a none issue. its only an issue when users think they need to change it for whatever reason.

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