Facing issues with voltage control
Facing issues with voltage control
I use Prime 95, LinX, and RealBench extensively, going beyond the standard recommendations. I performed numerous tests—at least two passes of LinX, one hour of RealBench, and half an hour of Prime 95 each time I adjusted any BIOS settings. Despite this, nothing provided clear feedback since everything passed consistently. I would finish tweaking and assume I was done when the game still stuttered slightly.
The issue lies with the best OC I've tried before, which passed all tests without problems, even under RealBench for 12 hours. However, it still experienced minor stuttering in CPU-intensive games, though it was significantly improved due to better voltage regulation.
I'm more concerned about gradual degradation than outright damage. It seems the stock settings have a higher voltage than they did a few months ago. Perhaps "damage" isn't the right term here.
Let me restate: The CPU is working well, with normal FPS and stable voltage. What I need is guidance on achieving a stable performance. It's not just about setting CPUVID to manual mode; I'm trying to understand deeper adjustments needed for stability. My worry is that giving the CPU or RAM too much voltage now could cause them to demand even more to maintain previous speeds.
I'm almost certain the problem lies in the auto regulation Skylake uses internally, but I have no idea how C-settings or LLC levels affect this.
Well, Figured it out myself mostly. Turned the power management mode from Performance mode to Balanced mode and that helped a LOT.
I then tried some old settings and now have it to 4.7GHz at 1.34v, stuttering ever so slightly, but it passed 8 hours of RealBench last night with a max temp of 87C.
Still want to know how to get it to stop stuttering.
Just wanted to let you know I've updated and tried to figure things out, though I'm still not sure how it all functions.
I'm still using 4.7GHz, and all the games are working well for me.
The computer sometimes stutters and freezes, but a stress test helps warm up the CPU and stops the freezing afterward. Doing this each time I start has kept things running smoothly.
It's a bit strange, but it seems to help. WoW is still okay but everything else is fine. I don't know why or if it'll be useful for others.
I'm pleased to have resolved it.
Switching from performance to balanced should negatively affect performance.
The only plausible explanation I can think of is that high temperatures are causing the CPU to throttle very frequently at the "Performance" setting, but less so at "Balanced."
Switching back and forth between 4.7 Gigahertz and 1 Gigahertz is risky, especially since 87°C is extremely hot and could damage the CPU if maintained at such levels.
Get comfortable with various architectures before trying to assist others, as you've only shared what you already understand or possibly incorrect details... TJMax for Skylake reaches 100C, 87C is intense but not enough to cause throttling or harm the CPU, and these are just stress test temperatures. Regular operating temperatures never approach such levels.
EpIckFa1LJoN: You need to get used to various architectures before trying to assist others, as you’ve only shared what you already understood or provided misleading details... TJMax for Skylake reaches 100C, 87C is quite high but not severe enough to cause throttling or harm the CPU. It’s still far from the extreme temperatures mentioned. I was aware that 87°C wasn’t sufficient to trigger throttling; it remains risky to maintain such a high temperature consistently. This is based on what you think the temperature readings are. Why do I doubt the accuracy of these numbers?... Because your system seems to be slowing down, along with your earlier comments about over-volting the CPU which might have affected a thermal sensor. "87°C is extremely hot and could cause damage if you keep it at that level." That statement still holds validity. Nothing I mentioned was entirely incorrect. If you truly think running at 87°C is beneficial, proceed, but be aware you’ll face about 13 degrees of risk before an automatic shutdown. Who has the right to tell you otherwise? https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/commen..._i7_6700k/
Well again a couple of things. 1. Normal usage (gaming) temps are way lower, as in under 60C always. 2. It was never a problem with heat or anything else. As mentioned several times by me, it was always a voltage regulation issue. It doesn't matter what you know if it isn't even relevant. So unless it is somehow throttling WAY WAY WAY lower than it is even designed to, none of that is relevant.
3. Came across both of those pages when I was making my initial post, didn't help because as I said the problems persisted at STOCK settings and WELL under even 60C, the fact the problem happens(ed) under even slight load, does not suggest throttling.
So regardless what "right" information you gave me, it was completely irrelevant to my case. Like I said in my post right before your rant, 87 is not the normal temperature that was the temp that it hit after 8 freaking hours of being at 100% usage, in a medium airflow case.
But like I said the issue was resolved by me after even more experimentation and thankfully it looked like I was just never giving it enough juice, It's well within safe limits now, both voltage and heat, thank you very much.