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Explore potential upgrades for Am4.

Explore potential upgrades for Am4.

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kervinc
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07-16-2021, 05:55 AM
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Check the BIOS release notes on the main board. If the Ryzen 5000 series are listed as supported, you can upgrade your CPU. If so, consider the 5800X for its excellent value. The 5900XT offers double the price but doesn’t match the performance.
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kervinc
07-16-2021, 05:55 AM #1

Check the BIOS release notes on the main board. If the Ryzen 5000 series are listed as supported, you can upgrade your CPU. If so, consider the 5800X for its excellent value. The 5900XT offers double the price but doesn’t match the performance.

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Pyromax33
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07-16-2021, 06:41 AM
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For gaming purposes, the 5700X3D is ideal and will serve you well in the coming years.
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Pyromax33
07-16-2021, 06:41 AM #2

For gaming purposes, the 5700X3D is ideal and will serve you well in the coming years.

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bbboys11
Junior Member
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07-16-2021, 10:30 AM
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They trimmed the image: Also, key points: The biggest change is missing 16x PCIe 4.0 or 4.0 NVME native speeds. Neither is essential since 16x 4.0 GPUs perform just as well on a 3.0 interface. Like M.2 storage, it might be slower but your M.2 drive would need top-tier specs to fully utilize Gen 4.0 bandwidth. It could also stem from the CPU's lower FCLK or fabric clock—2700x has a lower base clock than 3000 and 5000 series, which officially supports slower RAM speeds. Running 3600 RAM is likely less viable for this particular chipset.
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bbboys11
07-16-2021, 10:30 AM #3

They trimmed the image: Also, key points: The biggest change is missing 16x PCIe 4.0 or 4.0 NVME native speeds. Neither is essential since 16x 4.0 GPUs perform just as well on a 3.0 interface. Like M.2 storage, it might be slower but your M.2 drive would need top-tier specs to fully utilize Gen 4.0 bandwidth. It could also stem from the CPU's lower FCLK or fabric clock—2700x has a lower base clock than 3000 and 5000 series, which officially supports slower RAM speeds. Running 3600 RAM is likely less viable for this particular chipset.

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NuclearRavenMC
Junior Member
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07-17-2021, 10:05 AM
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Also consider the used market; if the equipment isn't damaged upon delivery, the discount might increase further. (However, at times 5800x3D for used items exceeds 5700x3D for new ones)
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NuclearRavenMC
07-17-2021, 10:05 AM #4

Also consider the used market; if the equipment isn't damaged upon delivery, the discount might increase further. (However, at times 5800x3D for used items exceeds 5700x3D for new ones)

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Cychi
Member
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07-19-2021, 01:34 AM
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They stopped the 5800x3d which would have been the top pick, but it's now around $450 for some reason. The 5700x3d still offers the best value based on what I've seen. The 5900xt is much pricier, though—I'm not just playing games. I usually edit videos and want to revisit recording sessions. With such strong multi-core performance, that extra cost probably isn't wasted. The 5800xt seems like a poor use of money, being 33% more expensive for only a slight boost in speed. The 5900xt shows a 70% jump in multi-core performance, which makes it worth the investment. I have a Gen 4 Samsung 980 Pro NVMe SSD, so it would make full use of the chipset. From what forum users say, MSI doesn't highlight 5000 series chips as a key update point, but many people using this board have done so, so it's likely included. My main concern is RAM speed improvement and whether the performance gain justifies it. If not, should I upgrade to an x570 AM4 board with Ryzen and an air cooler for about $75 less, or invest in the Intel 12700k and a Z690 board with DDR4 and a water cooler? Thanks for all the feedback!
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Cychi
07-19-2021, 01:34 AM #5

They stopped the 5800x3d which would have been the top pick, but it's now around $450 for some reason. The 5700x3d still offers the best value based on what I've seen. The 5900xt is much pricier, though—I'm not just playing games. I usually edit videos and want to revisit recording sessions. With such strong multi-core performance, that extra cost probably isn't wasted. The 5800xt seems like a poor use of money, being 33% more expensive for only a slight boost in speed. The 5900xt shows a 70% jump in multi-core performance, which makes it worth the investment. I have a Gen 4 Samsung 980 Pro NVMe SSD, so it would make full use of the chipset. From what forum users say, MSI doesn't highlight 5000 series chips as a key update point, but many people using this board have done so, so it's likely included. My main concern is RAM speed improvement and whether the performance gain justifies it. If not, should I upgrade to an x570 AM4 board with Ryzen and an air cooler for about $75 less, or invest in the Intel 12700k and a Z690 board with DDR4 and a water cooler? Thanks for all the feedback!

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07-19-2021, 04:07 AM
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Discovered the compatibility section and confirmed most 5 series models are present, except for XT CPUs. These seem to be recent releases despite older chipsets. Likelihood of compatibility with the 5900X, 5950X, etc., against the 5900XT is uncertain.
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LuisinDosCraft
07-19-2021, 04:07 AM #6

Discovered the compatibility section and confirmed most 5 series models are present, except for XT CPUs. These seem to be recent releases despite older chipsets. Likelihood of compatibility with the 5900X, 5950X, etc., against the 5900XT is uncertain.

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SiphonicVirus
Member
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08-04-2021, 12:27 PM
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It's not likely if it isn't on the list. It has nothing to do with if it could in theory run it. It has to be included in the BIOS version in order to be recognized. Just get a 5700X3D if you'll be using it for gaming.
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SiphonicVirus
08-04-2021, 12:27 PM #7

It's not likely if it isn't on the list. It has nothing to do with if it could in theory run it. It has to be included in the BIOS version in order to be recognized. Just get a 5700X3D if you'll be using it for gaming.

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ByCookie_
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08-04-2021, 07:53 PM
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The price might seem high, possibly adding up to 100 dollars more than 5700x3D. The 5800x3D offers little real difference compared to the 5700x3D. You could argue they perform almost the same. Occasionally, an 8-core processor is sufficient; 7800x3D also provides 8 cores but runs faster than 5700x3D. Some users prefer 6-core models and are comfortable with that. If you're using 5700x3D, you likely don't need the 5900x/XT compatibility.
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ByCookie_
08-04-2021, 07:53 PM #8

The price might seem high, possibly adding up to 100 dollars more than 5700x3D. The 5800x3D offers little real difference compared to the 5700x3D. You could argue they perform almost the same. Occasionally, an 8-core processor is sufficient; 7800x3D also provides 8 cores but runs faster than 5700x3D. Some users prefer 6-core models and are comfortable with that. If you're using 5700x3D, you likely don't need the 5900x/XT compatibility.