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Experiencing low mood when someone calls you toxic can be really tough.

Experiencing low mood when someone calls you toxic can be really tough.

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_MinezPlays_
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08-27-2023, 07:01 PM
#11
This post was created because I noticed Linux is mentioned repeatedly, which feels unfair. Some replies seem to stem from people asking questions that are easy to spot, while others struggle to understand. That’s not a valid excuse—basic questions are okay and should be addressed clearly. They could also point out design flaws or explain the reasoning behind certain choices. UI design often highlights this difference; what seems logical to me might feel odd to others. For example, my grandma finds it confusing to press and hold in chat apps, as the 'long press' option isn’t intuitive for her. People shouldn’t react with anger but should patiently clarify what’s expected. Understanding the motivation behind these decisions would be helpful.
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_MinezPlays_
08-27-2023, 07:01 PM #11

This post was created because I noticed Linux is mentioned repeatedly, which feels unfair. Some replies seem to stem from people asking questions that are easy to spot, while others struggle to understand. That’s not a valid excuse—basic questions are okay and should be addressed clearly. They could also point out design flaws or explain the reasoning behind certain choices. UI design often highlights this difference; what seems logical to me might feel odd to others. For example, my grandma finds it confusing to press and hold in chat apps, as the 'long press' option isn’t intuitive for her. People shouldn’t react with anger but should patiently clarify what’s expected. Understanding the motivation behind these decisions would be helpful.

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reptarsmash111
Junior Member
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09-02-2023, 01:10 AM
#12
It reflects both the chance of engaging with others and how many of them could be problematic.
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reptarsmash111
09-02-2023, 01:10 AM #12

It reflects both the chance of engaging with others and how many of them could be problematic.

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teddybear116
Member
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09-02-2023, 08:52 PM
#13
It doesn't reduce their performance. And it doesn't improve Linux users over Windows users.
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teddybear116
09-02-2023, 08:52 PM #13

It doesn't reduce their performance. And it doesn't improve Linux users over Windows users.

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DerekTheMage
Junior Member
17
09-02-2023, 09:28 PM
#14
I don't agree with that perspective. From my view, the Linux community has faced similar challenges with arrogance and exclusivity, though not to the same degree as in other spaces. A more fitting comparison might be the Apple community. Both groups struggle with dismissing newer or less experienced users, often labeling their concerns as mistakes rather than valid issues. Many respond to discussions about Linux by dismissing them outright, insisting users need to learn the right way. It's concerning when people react against efforts to improve the experience for others, especially those who feel overlooked. While it's important to address these behaviors in any community, Linux has a distinct history of this issue that deserves attention. The gatekeeping and elitism here are particularly troubling and need to be acknowledged to drive positive change.
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DerekTheMage
09-02-2023, 09:28 PM #14

I don't agree with that perspective. From my view, the Linux community has faced similar challenges with arrogance and exclusivity, though not to the same degree as in other spaces. A more fitting comparison might be the Apple community. Both groups struggle with dismissing newer or less experienced users, often labeling their concerns as mistakes rather than valid issues. Many respond to discussions about Linux by dismissing them outright, insisting users need to learn the right way. It's concerning when people react against efforts to improve the experience for others, especially those who feel overlooked. While it's important to address these behaviors in any community, Linux has a distinct history of this issue that deserves attention. The gatekeeping and elitism here are particularly troubling and need to be acknowledged to drive positive change.

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themagnum310
Member
164
09-09-2023, 07:07 AM
#15
I've relied on Linux as my main operating system for around two decades now. My journey through the years has shown me quite different things across various areas—most of these insights come from personal experience rather than formal expertise. I’ve found that many communities and discussion boards have been supportive and welcoming. Recently, Linux seems to be more reliable in solving problems compared to Windows. I generally encounter more difficulties with Windows than with Linux. On platforms like XDA, I often recommend people switch to a Linux distribution right away because it tends to resolve issues faster. Regarding closed-source software, I usually opt for open-source alternatives instead. Still, I always start by installing the official NVIDIA driver, which has never caused any problems for me. I don’t understand why so many criticize this approach. My own experience with WINE has been disappointing, so I avoid it entirely—neither on my PC nor on my wife’s sister’s machine. Outside of gaming, I prefer Linux completely. There are certain tasks in Linux that I’m not sure I can replicate easily on Windows. Reflecting on this mindset, I think some distros and communities aren’t as welcoming as others. For instance, I spend a lot of time on XDA, where help is generally available for most questions. However, the Huawei sections seem less accommodating—people there often respond in a more rigid or dismissive way. In any forum, providing vague or incomplete information usually leads to unhelpful answers. You’re also likely to receive generic replies. This pattern repeats here too; I’ve seen people post what they can and ask for clarification, only to be told exactly what to provide (like a specific command output in a TrueNAS group). If you don’t help yourself, others won’t either—this isn’t about toxicity, just about not contributing. Some individuals simply resist change. Linux is fundamentally different from Windows. If you dislike a distro and criticize it publicly, you’ll likely face silence. It might not be the community’s fault; perhaps they’re not suited to your needs. You may need to explore several options before finding one that fits. As others have noted, this isn’t unique to Linux—it happens with Windows too. Forums like Car forums are familiar with similar situations. There’s a community section called “non-hardcore” on Pirate4x4, which is still active and caters to beginners. It’s designed for newcomers who want a more approachable environment. Sometimes, after someone struggles due to poor information or a mismatched distro, they assume the fault lies with the group rather than themselves. That’s a perspective worth considering.
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themagnum310
09-09-2023, 07:07 AM #15

I've relied on Linux as my main operating system for around two decades now. My journey through the years has shown me quite different things across various areas—most of these insights come from personal experience rather than formal expertise. I’ve found that many communities and discussion boards have been supportive and welcoming. Recently, Linux seems to be more reliable in solving problems compared to Windows. I generally encounter more difficulties with Windows than with Linux. On platforms like XDA, I often recommend people switch to a Linux distribution right away because it tends to resolve issues faster. Regarding closed-source software, I usually opt for open-source alternatives instead. Still, I always start by installing the official NVIDIA driver, which has never caused any problems for me. I don’t understand why so many criticize this approach. My own experience with WINE has been disappointing, so I avoid it entirely—neither on my PC nor on my wife’s sister’s machine. Outside of gaming, I prefer Linux completely. There are certain tasks in Linux that I’m not sure I can replicate easily on Windows. Reflecting on this mindset, I think some distros and communities aren’t as welcoming as others. For instance, I spend a lot of time on XDA, where help is generally available for most questions. However, the Huawei sections seem less accommodating—people there often respond in a more rigid or dismissive way. In any forum, providing vague or incomplete information usually leads to unhelpful answers. You’re also likely to receive generic replies. This pattern repeats here too; I’ve seen people post what they can and ask for clarification, only to be told exactly what to provide (like a specific command output in a TrueNAS group). If you don’t help yourself, others won’t either—this isn’t about toxicity, just about not contributing. Some individuals simply resist change. Linux is fundamentally different from Windows. If you dislike a distro and criticize it publicly, you’ll likely face silence. It might not be the community’s fault; perhaps they’re not suited to your needs. You may need to explore several options before finding one that fits. As others have noted, this isn’t unique to Linux—it happens with Windows too. Forums like Car forums are familiar with similar situations. There’s a community section called “non-hardcore” on Pirate4x4, which is still active and caters to beginners. It’s designed for newcomers who want a more approachable environment. Sometimes, after someone struggles due to poor information or a mismatched distro, they assume the fault lies with the group rather than themselves. That’s a perspective worth considering.

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FaZe_Flash
Junior Member
14
09-16-2023, 04:08 AM
#16
Is the Linux community really toxic? I’ve seen many reaction videos from individuals like that, and most seem focused on giving advice, expressing disagreement, or offering practical perspectives.
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FaZe_Flash
09-16-2023, 04:08 AM #16

Is the Linux community really toxic? I’ve seen many reaction videos from individuals like that, and most seem focused on giving advice, expressing disagreement, or offering practical perspectives.

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Chester09
Senior Member
491
10-04-2023, 11:06 PM
#17
I considered the comment unnecessary most of the time. Often people invest their free time building these things, particularly the distributions they use. In my role, I’d never rely on a distribution like that, let alone perform the tasks they handle. Still, the community provided these tools without charge. Sure, there’s little documentation and the user experience isn’t ideal, but none of these individuals are supported by multi-billion companies such as Google or Microsoft. It really bothers me how disrespectful the video was toward developers. They aren’t corporate representatives; they’re exhausted and, often, burned out when working on this outside of work. These are personal projects. Yes, it’s not Windows, but all the components exist and they want to improve them. I thought a better approach would have been to simply contribute by reporting bugs or submitting documentation issues. The entire sequence felt like a joke.
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Chester09
10-04-2023, 11:06 PM #17

I considered the comment unnecessary most of the time. Often people invest their free time building these things, particularly the distributions they use. In my role, I’d never rely on a distribution like that, let alone perform the tasks they handle. Still, the community provided these tools without charge. Sure, there’s little documentation and the user experience isn’t ideal, but none of these individuals are supported by multi-billion companies such as Google or Microsoft. It really bothers me how disrespectful the video was toward developers. They aren’t corporate representatives; they’re exhausted and, often, burned out when working on this outside of work. These are personal projects. Yes, it’s not Windows, but all the components exist and they want to improve them. I thought a better approach would have been to simply contribute by reporting bugs or submitting documentation issues. The entire sequence felt like a joke.

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EVGRClutch
Member
245
10-05-2023, 06:40 AM
#18
Windows faces its own group of "vegetarians of operating systems." Some users clash with it, especially when discussing console games versus gaming platforms or paperweights. MacOS users have endured this challenge for years, though the community also has its own set of tough members.
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EVGRClutch
10-05-2023, 06:40 AM #18

Windows faces its own group of "vegetarians of operating systems." Some users clash with it, especially when discussing console games versus gaming platforms or paperweights. MacOS users have endured this challenge for years, though the community also has its own set of tough members.

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10-05-2023, 07:53 AM
#19
It’s crucial to challenge gatekeeping and elitism, yet one cannot describe an entire community with a single perspective. I lack control over those in charge, and I’ve debated them recently—even last week. In that discussion, I stood by Linus. What transpired with PopOS wasn’t his responsibility at all. The person I was talking to insisted it was entirely Linus’ fault. He ignored the warning in the terminal, which is his mistake! When I highlighted that the warning lay right in the middle of a massive white noise section, he insisted it was obvious (it wasn’t). He even took pride in being labeled a gatekeeper and refused to let his freedom be restricted because Linus couldn’t manage it.

The reality is we both belong to the Linux community, yet we’re very different. I’m hoping more people join Linux, not just a select few who see themselves as its exclusive group.
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pocketchicken1
10-05-2023, 07:53 AM #19

It’s crucial to challenge gatekeeping and elitism, yet one cannot describe an entire community with a single perspective. I lack control over those in charge, and I’ve debated them recently—even last week. In that discussion, I stood by Linus. What transpired with PopOS wasn’t his responsibility at all. The person I was talking to insisted it was entirely Linus’ fault. He ignored the warning in the terminal, which is his mistake! When I highlighted that the warning lay right in the middle of a massive white noise section, he insisted it was obvious (it wasn’t). He even took pride in being labeled a gatekeeper and refused to let his freedom be restricted because Linus couldn’t manage it.

The reality is we both belong to the Linux community, yet we’re very different. I’m hoping more people join Linux, not just a select few who see themselves as its exclusive group.

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DrPingouin
Member
214
10-27-2023, 05:14 AM
#20
I don't believe everyone is using the same approach to shape the community—my involvement means I'm part of this space too. I try not to label myself as toxic, though I hope that's true. The Linux community is huge and full of skilled, kind individuals. I think it's safe to say that toxic or arrogant voices make up a tiny fraction overall. The real issue is that even a few negative influences can have a big effect if left unchecked. It's unfortunately common for such behavior to go unchallenged in this environment. There are always reasons given or excuses made when it comes up, but these usually serve as justifications for harmful, dismissive, or disrespectful actions. I feel it's important to speak up and address these matters more often.
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DrPingouin
10-27-2023, 05:14 AM #20

I don't believe everyone is using the same approach to shape the community—my involvement means I'm part of this space too. I try not to label myself as toxic, though I hope that's true. The Linux community is huge and full of skilled, kind individuals. I think it's safe to say that toxic or arrogant voices make up a tiny fraction overall. The real issue is that even a few negative influences can have a big effect if left unchecked. It's unfortunately common for such behavior to go unchallenged in this environment. There are always reasons given or excuses made when it comes up, but these usually serve as justifications for harmful, dismissive, or disrespectful actions. I feel it's important to speak up and address these matters more often.

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