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Excuse me what?

Excuse me what?

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SquidyTheKing
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07-18-2016, 10:49 AM
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SquidyTheKing
07-18-2016, 10:49 AM #1

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DarkSkarlet
Senior Member
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08-07-2016, 07:20 PM
#2
You seem to be getting caught in the trap of assuming everyone has prior expertise. It’s easy to overlook how different systems and resources shape understanding. Many people might not even realize they’ve picked up commands or concepts through trial and error rather than formal learning.
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DarkSkarlet
08-07-2016, 07:20 PM #2

You seem to be getting caught in the trap of assuming everyone has prior expertise. It’s easy to overlook how different systems and resources shape understanding. Many people might not even realize they’ve picked up commands or concepts through trial and error rather than formal learning.

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ssheerio
Member
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08-09-2016, 01:52 AM
#3
Great job! Your take on Linus' observation highlights how the Linux community sometimes reacts with disdain when others struggle with tasks.
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ssheerio
08-09-2016, 01:52 AM #3

Great job! Your take on Linus' observation highlights how the Linux community sometimes reacts with disdain when others struggle with tasks.

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RizapS
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08-30-2016, 06:18 AM
#4
It’s frustrating to see misleading content gain traction despite clear flaws. His delivery feels very dismissive as well. The GitHub example shows just how thin the line is—just a few lines of text under a download link can be enough to raise eyebrows.
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RizapS
08-30-2016, 06:18 AM #4

It’s frustrating to see misleading content gain traction despite clear flaws. His delivery feels very dismissive as well. The GitHub example shows just how thin the line is—just a few lines of text under a download link can be enough to raise eyebrows.

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Chester007
Senior Member
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08-30-2016, 07:28 AM
#5
The main goal of this challenge is the complete reversal of appearing knowledgeable about the topic
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Chester007
08-30-2016, 07:28 AM #5

The main goal of this challenge is the complete reversal of appearing knowledgeable about the topic

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FakerDude
Member
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08-30-2016, 10:26 AM
#6
It's common to grasp the basics after setting up the system, especially since you'd likely have to add something. Yes, many people don't know everything, but learning Pacman instead of apt install isn't a big issue. Arch doesn't aim to install dependencies for apt; that's just incorrect information. You'll probably run into problems and think, "I should use pacman," or search for it online and find the right way. Essentially, you only need to understand it once.
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FakerDude
08-30-2016, 10:26 AM #6

It's common to grasp the basics after setting up the system, especially since you'd likely have to add something. Yes, many people don't know everything, but learning Pacman instead of apt install isn't a big issue. Arch doesn't aim to install dependencies for apt; that's just incorrect information. You'll probably run into problems and think, "I should use pacman," or search for it online and find the right way. Essentially, you only need to understand it once.

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claw1994
Junior Member
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08-30-2016, 12:47 PM
#7
The information highlights common challenges when installing software on Arch Linux, especially regarding dependencies and official methods. It emphasizes that Manjaro doesn’t automatically install dependencies via APT, which can lead to errors like "command not found." The advice suggests using unofficial guides for specific tools such as Obs, which can be installed quickly once researched. This approach is comparable in ease to installing software on Windows or macOS.

Key takeaways:
- Arch doesn’t handle dependency installation automatically.
- Unofficial resources help with specific installations.
- Official documentation exists but may require extra steps.
- Installation speed can be similar to other distributions.
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claw1994
08-30-2016, 12:47 PM #7

The information highlights common challenges when installing software on Arch Linux, especially regarding dependencies and official methods. It emphasizes that Manjaro doesn’t automatically install dependencies via APT, which can lead to errors like "command not found." The advice suggests using unofficial guides for specific tools such as Obs, which can be installed quickly once researched. This approach is comparable in ease to installing software on Windows or macOS.

Key takeaways:
- Arch doesn’t handle dependency installation automatically.
- Unofficial resources help with specific installations.
- Official documentation exists but may require extra steps.
- Installation speed can be similar to other distributions.

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LockD0wn
Member
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09-01-2016, 03:55 AM
#8
We seem to be talking about this topic or are you just going for a long rant? This isn’t a lighthearted comment but a genuine question. As you mentioned earlier in the discussion, I was referring to something detailed in the quoted part and had already noted it before. Your reply actually matches what I was trying to highlight—something I’m pointing out because you seem to overlook several points. For instance, a newcomer using Manjaro would likely look for that information rather than assuming Arch. Manjaro doesn’t clearly state it’s Arch-based. Many beginners search for “installing obs on Linux” without realizing the big differences between distros, which is why guides often focus more on appearance. This situation fits into today’s SEO-driven environment where people need accurate details. Remember, these users have no prior experience to help them filter out incorrect information. There are numerous Linux guides and introductory resources, but they often don’t go deep into package managers or similar topics. Depending on what someone finds online, it can be tricky. In my previous message I mentioned someone who searched for OBS installation instructions that didn’t work and got confused until they figured it out. He eventually learned, though he might have mixed up some details along the way. Yes, it’s true that Manjaro doesn’t explicitly say it supports Arch, which is why beginners can get lost. As for your other comment, it’s good you pointed to the right documentation, but have you checked the actual OBS download page? It mainly mentions Ubuntu and doesn’t link to your site. That means even if someone follows the instructions correctly, they might still need to search again, which isn’t guaranteed. This brings me back to my earlier point: many Linux users take certain facts for granted, and it’s important to recognize how much effort goes into understanding these details.
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LockD0wn
09-01-2016, 03:55 AM #8

We seem to be talking about this topic or are you just going for a long rant? This isn’t a lighthearted comment but a genuine question. As you mentioned earlier in the discussion, I was referring to something detailed in the quoted part and had already noted it before. Your reply actually matches what I was trying to highlight—something I’m pointing out because you seem to overlook several points. For instance, a newcomer using Manjaro would likely look for that information rather than assuming Arch. Manjaro doesn’t clearly state it’s Arch-based. Many beginners search for “installing obs on Linux” without realizing the big differences between distros, which is why guides often focus more on appearance. This situation fits into today’s SEO-driven environment where people need accurate details. Remember, these users have no prior experience to help them filter out incorrect information. There are numerous Linux guides and introductory resources, but they often don’t go deep into package managers or similar topics. Depending on what someone finds online, it can be tricky. In my previous message I mentioned someone who searched for OBS installation instructions that didn’t work and got confused until they figured it out. He eventually learned, though he might have mixed up some details along the way. Yes, it’s true that Manjaro doesn’t explicitly say it supports Arch, which is why beginners can get lost. As for your other comment, it’s good you pointed to the right documentation, but have you checked the actual OBS download page? It mainly mentions Ubuntu and doesn’t link to your site. That means even if someone follows the instructions correctly, they might still need to search again, which isn’t guaranteed. This brings me back to my earlier point: many Linux users take certain facts for granted, and it’s important to recognize how much effort goes into understanding these details.

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AlphaMailHD
Member
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09-01-2016, 12:02 PM
#9
I understand you're following along, even if it's been a bit tense. I'm revisiting your earlier comments because I thought your take on the knowledge gap was helpful and wanted to respond. The point the person is making isn't just about Linus not knowing APT exists—it's about what he said in the final video that doesn't make sense and likely isn't accurate. It seems like he might have misinterpreted the apt-get command messages. It's disappointing he didn't show the relevant footage.
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AlphaMailHD
09-01-2016, 12:02 PM #9

I understand you're following along, even if it's been a bit tense. I'm revisiting your earlier comments because I thought your take on the knowledge gap was helpful and wanted to respond. The point the person is making isn't just about Linus not knowing APT exists—it's about what he said in the final video that doesn't make sense and likely isn't accurate. It seems like he might have misinterpreted the apt-get command messages. It's disappointing he didn't show the relevant footage.

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_Ahmed_PGTV
Junior Member
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09-03-2016, 04:46 AM
#10
It’s okay sharing here; I referenced it in another discussion anyway. I see the point is a bit unclear, and having real footage would have clarified what actually occurred. At the same time, this isn’t necessarily the best illustration of any new Linux experience, since it can be hard to stay focused and might lead to misunderstandings. Most importantly, it doesn’t completely undermine the main ideas in the video, even though some people exaggerate because of it. In short, it still shows a first-time Linux user trying to play games, which is what I was aiming for.
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_Ahmed_PGTV
09-03-2016, 04:46 AM #10

It’s okay sharing here; I referenced it in another discussion anyway. I see the point is a bit unclear, and having real footage would have clarified what actually occurred. At the same time, this isn’t necessarily the best illustration of any new Linux experience, since it can be hard to stay focused and might lead to misunderstandings. Most importantly, it doesn’t completely undermine the main ideas in the video, even though some people exaggerate because of it. In short, it still shows a first-time Linux user trying to play games, which is what I was aiming for.

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