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Evaluating AM4 versus AM5 options—considering Zen4 vs. delaying to Zen5.

Evaluating AM4 versus AM5 options—considering Zen4 vs. delaying to Zen5.

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shizzle54
Member
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07-03-2018, 09:27 PM
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Gradually I'm adjusting my setup and in a few months I hope it's ready. But I'm curious about whether it's worth it and if the improvement is noticeable. Presently I'm using an MSI Carbon x570S with a 5700X (stabilized at 4.65) and CL14-3600 (4x8GB), Sapphire 7900XFX Pulse, and a MSI MAG 341CQP (UW QD-OLED 3440x1440/175Hz). I aim to utilize it fully (in my opinion) and right now I feel it's not reaching its potential. According to what I know, there shouldn't be any major bottlenecks, but the idea that I'm not getting the most out of it keeps me thinking. My goal is to upgrade to: an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Boxed (or 7950X3D if needed), a Gigabyte X670 GAMING X AX V2 (with BT 5.3 and M.2 slots), two G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N (providing effectively 64GB RAM). However, Zen5 is on the way—should I hold off or opt for a 5950X on AM4? Would that be enough? Cooling options include a Dark Rock Pro 4 or sticking with my Arctic Liquid Freezer II; the freezer III is an alternative if required. The case will remain an R6, and it will stay that way.
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shizzle54
07-03-2018, 09:27 PM #1

Gradually I'm adjusting my setup and in a few months I hope it's ready. But I'm curious about whether it's worth it and if the improvement is noticeable. Presently I'm using an MSI Carbon x570S with a 5700X (stabilized at 4.65) and CL14-3600 (4x8GB), Sapphire 7900XFX Pulse, and a MSI MAG 341CQP (UW QD-OLED 3440x1440/175Hz). I aim to utilize it fully (in my opinion) and right now I feel it's not reaching its potential. According to what I know, there shouldn't be any major bottlenecks, but the idea that I'm not getting the most out of it keeps me thinking. My goal is to upgrade to: an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Boxed (or 7950X3D if needed), a Gigabyte X670 GAMING X AX V2 (with BT 5.3 and M.2 slots), two G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5N (providing effectively 64GB RAM). However, Zen5 is on the way—should I hold off or opt for a 5950X on AM4? Would that be enough? Cooling options include a Dark Rock Pro 4 or sticking with my Arctic Liquid Freezer II; the freezer III is an alternative if required. The case will remain an R6, and it will stay that way.

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YoungAriesArt
Member
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07-03-2018, 09:27 PM
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The purpose of this system is being discussed, along with its compatibility and performance considerations. A key advantage of an AM5 setup is the ability to upgrade to Zen 5 later. Choosing AM4 means you won’t get any CPU improvements beyond what’s available now. For the best gaming experience on AM4, a 5800X3D is recommended.
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YoungAriesArt
07-03-2018, 09:27 PM #2

The purpose of this system is being discussed, along with its compatibility and performance considerations. A key advantage of an AM5 setup is the ability to upgrade to Zen 5 later. Choosing AM4 means you won’t get any CPU improvements beyond what’s available now. For the best gaming experience on AM4, a 5800X3D is recommended.

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Gladiador70
Senior Member
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07-03-2018, 09:27 PM
#3
No, I don't have a physical location.
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Gladiador70
07-03-2018, 09:27 PM #3

No, I don't have a physical location.

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the5harkman
Senior Member
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07-03-2018, 09:27 PM
#4
You're asking for clarity on your goals. Are you hitting a limit because of hardware constraints, or is there another reason? It sounds like you're concerned about making the most of your investment. If you're planning an upgrade, consider testing it in demanding scenarios to identify bottlenecks. Researching and monitoring performance across different games can help you decide what upgrades truly matter. Don't waste money if the results don't improve.
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the5harkman
07-03-2018, 09:27 PM #4

You're asking for clarity on your goals. Are you hitting a limit because of hardware constraints, or is there another reason? It sounds like you're concerned about making the most of your investment. If you're planning an upgrade, consider testing it in demanding scenarios to identify bottlenecks. Researching and monitoring performance across different games can help you decide what upgrades truly matter. Don't waste money if the results don't improve.

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ExOgAmEr
Junior Member
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07-03-2018, 09:27 PM
#5
Order a 5700X3D or 5800X3D. Performance reaches around 7700X with better smoothness thanks to increased L3 cache.
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ExOgAmEr
07-03-2018, 09:27 PM #5

Order a 5700X3D or 5800X3D. Performance reaches around 7700X with better smoothness thanks to increased L3 cache.

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jaap220
Senior Member
369
07-03-2018, 09:27 PM
#6
Severe bottlenecks, repeated bottlenecks... I'm sorry I had to
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jaap220
07-03-2018, 09:27 PM #6

Severe bottlenecks, repeated bottlenecks... I'm sorry I had to

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anfuk
Junior Member
47
07-03-2018, 09:27 PM
#7
The choice to opt for a 5950x, 7950x or 7950x3D depends on needing additional multicore power beyond gaming. The only situation where it makes sense is when running demanding titles like Warframe and Diablo 4 together. DR Pro 4 handles these well, so investing in an AIO isn't necessary if you already have one and plan to upgrade. Stick with 2x16GB or a 2x32GB setup rather than risking 4x16GB. DDR5 system boot times are already longer due to training effects, and they tend to degrade further with a 4x configuration. If your system clearly signals a hard CPU limit, consider upgrading to Intel's 15th gen or Ryzen 9000 series later. The 7800x3D can still perform well for gaming, similar to how the 5800x3D outperformed the 7700x, so keep it in mind if you decide to wait.
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anfuk
07-03-2018, 09:27 PM #7

The choice to opt for a 5950x, 7950x or 7950x3D depends on needing additional multicore power beyond gaming. The only situation where it makes sense is when running demanding titles like Warframe and Diablo 4 together. DR Pro 4 handles these well, so investing in an AIO isn't necessary if you already have one and plan to upgrade. Stick with 2x16GB or a 2x32GB setup rather than risking 4x16GB. DDR5 system boot times are already longer due to training effects, and they tend to degrade further with a 4x configuration. If your system clearly signals a hard CPU limit, consider upgrading to Intel's 15th gen or Ryzen 9000 series later. The 7800x3D can still perform well for gaming, similar to how the 5800x3D outperformed the 7700x, so keep it in mind if you decide to wait.

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GinelyTheDwarf
Junior Member
20
07-03-2018, 09:27 PM
#8
If your current setup is suiting your needs, then there's no point in upgrading yet. Tech is not an investment. What today gives you 40% better performance for $1,000 will cost $500 in a 2-3 years. And then $250 in 4-5 years. Waiting to upgrade until it's actually required is always the smart play for this reason. Enjoy your system. Use it. And when you find something that it can't do (or can't do to an acceptable level in your eyes) that's the point when you upgrade.
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GinelyTheDwarf
07-03-2018, 09:27 PM #8

If your current setup is suiting your needs, then there's no point in upgrading yet. Tech is not an investment. What today gives you 40% better performance for $1,000 will cost $500 in a 2-3 years. And then $250 in 4-5 years. Waiting to upgrade until it's actually required is always the smart play for this reason. Enjoy your system. Use it. And when you find something that it can't do (or can't do to an acceptable level in your eyes) that's the point when you upgrade.

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07-03-2018, 09:27 PM
#9
For everyone behind the scenes: Stick with what fits your needs. The latest version will lose its appeal; even if you later require it, it won’t disappear and it’ll likely cost less over time.
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HauntingShadow
07-03-2018, 09:27 PM #9

For everyone behind the scenes: Stick with what fits your needs. The latest version will lose its appeal; even if you later require it, it won’t disappear and it’ll likely cost less over time.

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kodeg
Member
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07-03-2018, 09:27 PM
#10
However, what if building hardware is a passion and you invest in the latest equipment just for enjoyment?
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kodeg
07-03-2018, 09:27 PM #10

However, what if building hardware is a passion and you invest in the latest equipment just for enjoyment?

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