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EU celebrate, free Win10 ESU launched today

EU celebrate, free Win10 ESU launched today

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SnifePvP
Posting Freak
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04-23-2016, 11:13 AM
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Received a reminder today to sign up for Windows 10 Pro ESU, free for EU users only. Just need an M$ account to join. Easy process—no ID card required, just a Visa PIN. Works fine for another year without the annoying updates or frustrating AI!
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SnifePvP
04-23-2016, 11:13 AM #1

Received a reminder today to sign up for Windows 10 Pro ESU, free for EU users only. Just need an M$ account to join. Easy process—no ID card required, just a Visa PIN. Works fine for another year without the annoying updates or frustrating AI!

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timo_1892
Senior Member
715
04-23-2016, 08:09 PM
#2
To secure the assistance, I considered how much of the necessary data I needed to provide. From what I understood, adjusting enough of the required inputs could potentially allow me to receive support from the US side.
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timo_1892
04-23-2016, 08:09 PM #2

To secure the assistance, I considered how much of the necessary data I needed to provide. From what I understood, adjusting enough of the required inputs could potentially allow me to receive support from the US side.

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lolking6546
Junior Member
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04-25-2016, 01:12 PM
#3
It seems you're wondering about accessing a Windows account and email from within the EU using a VPN, and you're curious about how M$ is verifying your location.
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lolking6546
04-25-2016, 01:12 PM #3

It seems you're wondering about accessing a Windows account and email from within the EU using a VPN, and you're curious about how M$ is verifying your location.

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MrKryp
Senior Member
643
04-25-2016, 02:11 PM
#4
You switched your local PC login to a Microsoft account during sign-in. At that point, it makes sense to install Windows 11.
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MrKryp
04-25-2016, 02:11 PM #4

You switched your local PC login to a Microsoft account during sign-in. At that point, it makes sense to install Windows 11.

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reddwarf1234
Member
219
04-27-2016, 03:07 PM
#5
Yes, you can retrieve the ESU independently of linking your PC to an MS account. Many users have discovered methods to access it without that connection.
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reddwarf1234
04-27-2016, 03:07 PM #5

Yes, you can retrieve the ESU independently of linking your PC to an MS account. Many users have discovered methods to access it without that connection.

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OreoKittyKat33
Junior Member
12
04-27-2016, 03:14 PM
#6
Saves me from the trouble of restarting both Windows and Linux at once, and I’m not interested in the latest Windows 11 issues or AI features.
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OreoKittyKat33
04-27-2016, 03:14 PM #6

Saves me from the trouble of restarting both Windows and Linux at once, and I’m not interested in the latest Windows 11 issues or AI features.

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PowerMaxx
Member
221
04-29-2016, 04:51 AM
#7
Create an account, receive notifications, then disconnect and return to your local profile. However, this means missing out on fresh updates, requiring repeated logins...
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PowerMaxx
04-29-2016, 04:51 AM #7

Create an account, receive notifications, then disconnect and return to your local profile. However, this means missing out on fresh updates, requiring repeated logins...

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SayNoToNWO
Posting Freak
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05-12-2016, 01:39 AM
#8
You must also update all your documents in OneDrive
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SayNoToNWO
05-12-2016, 01:39 AM #8

You must also update all your documents in OneDrive

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jackster770
Member
139
05-12-2016, 02:33 AM
#9
Not everyone, just the ones you keep in the Windows folders, are completely removed from there.
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jackster770
05-12-2016, 02:33 AM #9

Not everyone, just the ones you keep in the Windows folders, are completely removed from there.

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Superjulo
Member
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05-13-2016, 03:43 AM
#10
However, if MS is the data mining firm you worry about, wouldn't you realize they likely track the IP or MAC address of the PC you used to log in? Once Windows—or MS—recognizes that your MS account is linked to a specific machine, they tend to remember it. Even if you believe they don’t routinely send your information using your MS credentials, wouldn’t it be reasonable to think they could perform a data extraction when you re-enter after 60 days to keep your updates? Even if you never logged into an MS account (as I did), I’d still think this leaves you vulnerable. Telemetry existed with XP and before. They didn’t know your name, but they did track your location, user profile, etc. If the problem lies with the MS account, using W11 with Rufus would have been a safer choice. The same applies if you don’t have OneDrive. What are your plans for next year? If you’re on Linux, you could have taken action then. If you’re using W10, you also had options without an MS account or OneDrive. And regarding AI concerns, fair enough, but all known AI capabilities in W10 can be turned off easily. But if you’re concerned about secret AI features (a reasonable worry), what would have prevented them from implementing them in W11 without publicizing it (if the aim was surveillance or something similar)? This is definitely speculative territory. But if W11 gives you concerns, don’t rule W10 out either. If AI is your main worry, I assume you haven’t used a smartphone five years or more? Unlike a PC, a phone has cameras and microphones that can’t be disabled. Compared to today’s smartphones, W11 offers a high degree of user control and privacy options. Just a quick perspective for assessing risks. Except Linux, W11 without an account or OneDrive remains the strongest privacy option. Better than W10 with an account/OneDrive (what you currently have) or Apple devices.
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Superjulo
05-13-2016, 03:43 AM #10

However, if MS is the data mining firm you worry about, wouldn't you realize they likely track the IP or MAC address of the PC you used to log in? Once Windows—or MS—recognizes that your MS account is linked to a specific machine, they tend to remember it. Even if you believe they don’t routinely send your information using your MS credentials, wouldn’t it be reasonable to think they could perform a data extraction when you re-enter after 60 days to keep your updates? Even if you never logged into an MS account (as I did), I’d still think this leaves you vulnerable. Telemetry existed with XP and before. They didn’t know your name, but they did track your location, user profile, etc. If the problem lies with the MS account, using W11 with Rufus would have been a safer choice. The same applies if you don’t have OneDrive. What are your plans for next year? If you’re on Linux, you could have taken action then. If you’re using W10, you also had options without an MS account or OneDrive. And regarding AI concerns, fair enough, but all known AI capabilities in W10 can be turned off easily. But if you’re concerned about secret AI features (a reasonable worry), what would have prevented them from implementing them in W11 without publicizing it (if the aim was surveillance or something similar)? This is definitely speculative territory. But if W11 gives you concerns, don’t rule W10 out either. If AI is your main worry, I assume you haven’t used a smartphone five years or more? Unlike a PC, a phone has cameras and microphones that can’t be disabled. Compared to today’s smartphones, W11 offers a high degree of user control and privacy options. Just a quick perspective for assessing risks. Except Linux, W11 without an account or OneDrive remains the strongest privacy option. Better than W10 with an account/OneDrive (what you currently have) or Apple devices.

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