Driven mad by microstutter in games [example attached]
Driven mad by microstutter in games [example attached]
Hi everyone
I've been having this microstutter issues for many months now, and have extensively searched and tried to fix it at various intervals to no avail.
I ignore it at times and go on with my life, but recently when playing Jedi Fallen Order it almost drove me insane and I now wish that I can fix this for good with the help of knowledgeable users.
Video attached here of CSGO
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Skyrim example
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Stuttering in CSGO... This also happens in other games like WarCraft 3 Reforged, Jedi Fallen Order and Skyrim and so on. Some games seem unaffected,
but only mostly in benchmarks where the FPS is never stuttering and the average is good according to other posted benchmarks with similar specs.
My specs:
MSI Z170A Tomahawk
i7-6700k at 4.2GHz 1.25V
2x8GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 3200MHz RAM
Zotac RTX 2080 AMP! Extreme stock settings
Windows 10 on 250GB Samnsung 850 EVO
Super FlowerLeadex II 750W 80 Plus Gold PSU
Things I've tried:
Updating BIOS from 2016 to 2018
Formatting to Windows 10 Pro and updating to October 2018
Installing latest Nvidia Drivers
Disabling Realtek sound device and running game without sound
Disabling RTX 2080 and running CSGO at lower settings on HD530 graphics to maintain 90FPS, stutter continued at intervals
Running the games on SSD instead of my HDDs
Running on RAM module at a time, and switching each between slots
Running all stock BIOS settings
Enabling 8 processors in Advanced Boot Options under msconfig
Only running essential USB devices such as Mouse and Keyboard
Running Malwarebytes, Avast, RogueKiller etc. to make sure all malware removed
I cannot think of all of the things I have tried in the past few months, but I'm now really at my wits' end and I'm at the
point of nearly buying an entirely new upgrade kit including new RAM, Mobo and Ryzen 7 3700x or 9700k.
That's if those specific components are causing the issue. The biggest suspect for me is the mobo, but could be CPU.
It's hard to isolate them because I don't have replacements.
I know that this PC of mine is still more than suitable for my needs, and I would really like a second opinion of what the cause could be.
I would also start disabling some services you don't need. You can access it either by typing 'msconfig' or simply typing 'services' in the search bar. Just research each one carefully before disabling it so you don't break your PC. Shut down your computer and reboot it once you're done. The only other things I can think of you can try is running a 'system file...
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Microstutters, often caused by CPU bottlenecks, can affect GPU performance during gaming. Monitoring CPU and GPU usage with tools like MSI Afterburner helps identify these issues. Recent CPU security updates have also contributed to microstuttering, leading some users to revert to older BIOS versions. Certain games suggest disabling Windows Defender’s Control Flow Guard for improved performance, though this should only be done on a per-game basis with no network connection.
Nvidia Control Panel settings can further minimize stutter, such as turning Vsync off in-game and using the Nvidia Control Panel to set it on, along with utilizing Power management mode on Prefer maximum performance and the Low latency mode setting to Ultra. While this doesn’t eliminate all stutter, it significantly reduces it for many users.
A common issue is stuttering immediately upon launching a game, often resolving itself after a minute or so. Storage speed also plays a role; slower HDDs exacerbate the problem compared to faster NVMe drives. Unreal Engine games, particularly those with heavy texture loading, are prone to stuttering. For *Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order*, many users have reported issues even on high-end PCs. Strategies include moving the game to an NVMe drive for increased speed.
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I’m experiencing significant stuttering in a game, and it seems related to how the graphics card processes information. This wasn't an issue when I previously used a different graphics card (a 1060 with 6GB of VRAM) on Windows 7, using the same motherboard, RAM, and processor. Now, with my upgraded components – including a newer GPU and power supply unit – I’m encountering this stuttering behavior. It's as if there’s a mismatch between what the GPU is trying to do and how it’s being handled. The issue wasn't present when running Windows 7, suggesting a potential compatibility or driver conflict related to my current operating system and/or newer hardware. I suspect an incompatibility somewhere in the upgrade process – perhaps a driver issue or a conflict between the new GPU and PSU – is causing this stuttering effect.
Regarding the videos, I don't consider them very informative since you didn't scale the stat fonts to be even large enough to easily read, plus you didn't even bench the one game which would have had the most chance of bottleneck, JFO.
I see really low usage on both in the Skyrim scene, but no stutter to speak of. It's basically a short clip with no action that is useless for determining such things. The CPU/GPU aren't going to be used much just standing there talking to an NPC.
Maybe try benching while a big battle is going on, like the first dragon you fight with the help of the village.
BTW, Jedi Fallen Order was noticeably smoother on my NVMe for me, but it's quite fast.
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I’m encountering persistent stutters in various games that are disruptive and concerning. These aren't consistent with high CPU/GPU usage, as that wouldn’t explain them occurring even in older, less demanding titles. The stutters manifest as significant FPS drops – sometimes more than half – followed by freezes lasting hundreds of milliseconds.
This issue appears across multiple games, including WarCraft 3 Reforged and Skyrim. Specifically, I experience stuttering when placing buildings at the beginning of a game (like in Skyrim), or during quiet moments with minimal action. In WarCraft 3, it’s noticeable while moving my army, but the most frequent occurrences are during building placement.
The problem is particularly evident in videos of CSGO and Skyrim. For example, in the Skyrim video, when I click on an NPC to initiate a conversation, the FPS drops from 60 to 29, accompanied by a mouse cursor displacement due to the stuttering. The timing of these stutters seems tied to actions like clicking or moving the mouse while the game is paused.
I believe this could be two separate issues. I’m attempting to demonstrate the problem with a “JFO” (Jump-and-Fight Operation) scenario, but it might be helpful to compare examples if you have one available.
Here’s an analysis of stuttering issues observed in various games, including Warcraft III Reforged, CS:GO, and Skyrim. The problem appears to be prevalent across different titles and scenarios, suggesting it's likely not tied to a specific game engine but rather related to underlying performance bottlenecks.
We've documented instances of stuttering during building placement in Warcraft III Reforged (https://youtu.be/AtV-Q_x_5Oo), sniper shots in CS:GO (https://youtu.be/25sJGFX4v2c), and even during AWP shots in CS:GO (https://youtu.be/Ed5HYrYHk6o). These examples highlight that the stuttering isn't solely confined to specific actions like building or shooting; it can occur even outside of combat situations.
The observed similarities across games – including instances of stuttering within and outside of battle – suggest a common root cause. While numerous other games also exhibit this issue, further investigation is time-consuming. The goal is to find a reliable solution for this frustrating problem.
Have you tried defragmenting your drive? Just type 'defragment' into your search bar and click on the app that says "defragment and optimize drives". It says it does this on a schedule automatically, but I wouldn't put my trust in the operating system to do this for you. I check mines every day or so.
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The provided text discusses issues with a video titled "JFO," specifically regarding stuttering and lack of visual detail. The primary problem is that the video is excessively short, leaving little time to observe any content. The visuals are obscured by frequent stuttering, making it difficult to see anything clearly. Many videos created around this title exhibit significant stuttering, likely due to the video's brevity and poor presentation. It’s suggested that viewers should search “JFO” on YouTube to find examples of this issue.
Hi, unfortunately they were done automatically a few days ago.
https://imgur.com/EmKjCNn