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Does X570 offer future readiness, making it a smart investment?

Does X570 offer future readiness, making it a smart investment?

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UberCuber
Junior Member
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01-05-2019, 11:58 PM
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Hello, I'm trying to upgrade my desktop and following some suggestions from your channel. I'm considering the Ryzen 5 3600 GTX 1660 Super G.Skill RipjawsV 2x8GB DDR4 3200MHz. For the motherboard, I was thinking about the B450 Tomahawk, but then I saw the X570 Gaming X which costs a bit more but supports PCIe 4.0. Since I plan to keep this build for at least five years and might need to upgrade the GPU or RAM later, is the X570 a better option? I believe upgrading the GPU would likely work better with PCIe 4.0, making it more future-proof. Thanks for your help!
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UberCuber
01-05-2019, 11:58 PM #1

Hello, I'm trying to upgrade my desktop and following some suggestions from your channel. I'm considering the Ryzen 5 3600 GTX 1660 Super G.Skill RipjawsV 2x8GB DDR4 3200MHz. For the motherboard, I was thinking about the B450 Tomahawk, but then I saw the X570 Gaming X which costs a bit more but supports PCIe 4.0. Since I plan to keep this build for at least five years and might need to upgrade the GPU or RAM later, is the X570 a better option? I believe upgrading the GPU would likely work better with PCIe 4.0, making it more future-proof. Thanks for your help!

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taeranghee
Member
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01-06-2019, 07:56 AM
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You're asking if GPUs will stop using PCIe 4.0 soon and whether the X570 is limited to the latest Ryzen models. Let me clarify those points for you.
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taeranghee
01-06-2019, 07:56 AM #2

You're asking if GPUs will stop using PCIe 4.0 soon and whether the X570 is limited to the latest Ryzen models. Let me clarify those points for you.

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TheAlexZ_
Member
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01-08-2019, 07:02 PM
#3
This specific board (along with x570 UD) doesn't justify the extra 50 euros. The most affordable option I’d suggest is Asus x570-P. The best balance of price and performance comes from Asus x570-Plus TUF Gaming and Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite. See the spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...=639584818 Avoid any x570 model lacking at least three green checkmarks in the middle columns. Ryzen 4xxx will still fit on AM4 sockets. Once that’s confirmed, AMD plans may shift to DDR5 and possibly USB 4 support (which covers Thunderbolt), requiring a move to AM5 or similar. It’s uncertain if they’ll support Ryzen 5xxx with DDR4 yet. B450 boards should handle Ryzen 4xxx, but this depends on whether the B550 chipset gets widely adopted and is available in volume. If so, AMD might advise keeping older boards compatible with PCIe 4.0 to push adoption of PCIe 4.0 across devices.
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TheAlexZ_
01-08-2019, 07:02 PM #3

This specific board (along with x570 UD) doesn't justify the extra 50 euros. The most affordable option I’d suggest is Asus x570-P. The best balance of price and performance comes from Asus x570-Plus TUF Gaming and Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite. See the spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...=639584818 Avoid any x570 model lacking at least three green checkmarks in the middle columns. Ryzen 4xxx will still fit on AM4 sockets. Once that’s confirmed, AMD plans may shift to DDR5 and possibly USB 4 support (which covers Thunderbolt), requiring a move to AM5 or similar. It’s uncertain if they’ll support Ryzen 5xxx with DDR4 yet. B450 boards should handle Ryzen 4xxx, but this depends on whether the B550 chipset gets widely adopted and is available in volume. If so, AMD might advise keeping older boards compatible with PCIe 4.0 to push adoption of PCIe 4.0 across devices.

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Elina_Aada20
Member
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01-08-2019, 08:58 PM
#4
Available graphics cards today lack support for PCIe Gen4.0 features. We may see improvements in the coming years.
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Elina_Aada20
01-08-2019, 08:58 PM #4

Available graphics cards today lack support for PCIe Gen4.0 features. We may see improvements in the coming years.

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WildCandy
Senior Member
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01-10-2019, 07:21 PM
#5
The information provided appears to be inconsistent. The spreadsheet mentions 5*2 phases, while Gigabyte states it has 10+2. This discrepancy suggests the details may refer to different components or configurations.
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WildCandy
01-10-2019, 07:21 PM #5

The information provided appears to be inconsistent. The spreadsheet mentions 5*2 phases, while Gigabyte states it has 10+2. This discrepancy suggests the details may refer to different components or configurations.

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RelampagoMC
Member
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01-11-2019, 03:13 AM
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Agree here. I have the aorus elite, but I feel a bit silly about it now. If/when my wife decides she wants more performance I'm planning to use a tomahawk for that upgrade. The aorus has been great for me so far, but the extra money was a waste for me personally.
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RelampagoMC
01-11-2019, 03:13 AM #6

Agree here. I have the aorus elite, but I feel a bit silly about it now. If/when my wife decides she wants more performance I'm planning to use a tomahawk for that upgrade. The aorus has been great for me so far, but the extra money was a waste for me personally.

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W1ngnit
Junior Member
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01-11-2019, 11:17 AM
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I understand what's going on with GPUs and appreciate your effort to prepare for the future. However, I'm facing a challenge in planning over the next five years due to some uncertainties.
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W1ngnit
01-11-2019, 11:17 AM #7

I understand what's going on with GPUs and appreciate your effort to prepare for the future. However, I'm facing a challenge in planning over the next five years due to some uncertainties.

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_HappyTheCat
Junior Member
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01-11-2019, 04:29 PM
#8
No, I don't recommend the B450 tomahawk.
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_HappyTheCat
01-11-2019, 04:29 PM #8

No, I don't recommend the B450 tomahawk.

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michelle2410
Member
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01-11-2019, 06:24 PM
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The system employs five stages for main CPU power supply, utilizing doubler chips to manage ten power stages through signals from the VRM controller... essentially multiplying the number of stages. This setup results in approximately ten "cylinders" (for comparison with a car engine), all working together to generate clean energy. The additional two connections serve the processor's SoC components (such as USB 3 controller and integrated graphics) and are considered less critical for general understanding.
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michelle2410
01-11-2019, 06:24 PM #9

The system employs five stages for main CPU power supply, utilizing doubler chips to manage ten power stages through signals from the VRM controller... essentially multiplying the number of stages. This setup results in approximately ten "cylinders" (for comparison with a car engine), all working together to generate clean energy. The additional two connections serve the processor's SoC components (such as USB 3 controller and integrated graphics) and are considered less critical for general understanding.

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PandaBanana
Junior Member
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01-17-2019, 03:04 AM
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He believes he doesn’t need to upgrade to x570 on his wife’s machine and is content with a high-end B450 motherboard. At least that’s my interpretation. If you’re okay with B450 boards and wish to cut costs, MSI offers some excellent options compared to other manufacturers. Tomohawk tends to be pricier since it’s the go-to recommendation, but the B450M Mortar (also mATX) provides comparable VRM, performance, and quality, along with improved features like a better mix of connectors on the IO shield and 2 m.2 connectors. There are also B450 Gaming Plus and B450-A Pro, which are reliable and more affordable.
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PandaBanana
01-17-2019, 03:04 AM #10

He believes he doesn’t need to upgrade to x570 on his wife’s machine and is content with a high-end B450 motherboard. At least that’s my interpretation. If you’re okay with B450 boards and wish to cut costs, MSI offers some excellent options compared to other manufacturers. Tomohawk tends to be pricier since it’s the go-to recommendation, but the B450M Mortar (also mATX) provides comparable VRM, performance, and quality, along with improved features like a better mix of connectors on the IO shield and 2 m.2 connectors. There are also B450 Gaming Plus and B450-A Pro, which are reliable and more affordable.

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