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Does PBO affect the CPU?

Does PBO affect the CPU?

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krisjul
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04-15-2019, 12:00 AM
#21
The process of canceling means the warranty is completely eliminated and will never be restored. Removing the pins from your processor in a clear way will definitely cancel the warranty, and you’ll likely be denied any claim if you try to file one for it and it can’t be repaired.

To make it invalid doesn’t necessarily mean it’s gone forever—it just means it won’t be valid for the intended use. For example, if your device keeps freezing and doesn’t function properly when you’re using it normally, the support team might suggest resetting the CMOS and say “it works fine.” That’s considered closed: there’s no warranty coverage for attempting to operate it in PBO mode, and since it works without issues in the original version, no valid claim exists. But this doesn’t mean the warranty is canceled—it just means there’s no coverage for that specific use case.

If your device still fails even when set to factory settings, you might be able to file a warranty claim. This would require expert legal advice, as it’s complex. In such situations, arguments are usually not worth pursuing.

Invalidating and voiding are both critical terms in auto warranties. For instance, if you install an intake mod, the check engine light will turn on. If you bring it in for repair, they might cancel the engine warranty even if the issue is unrelated to the mod—until you switch back to the original model. If the problem persists and the return to stock doesn’t fix it, they’ll repair it. It wasn’t voided.

However, using antifreeze instead of oil and letting it run until it seizes will cancel the engine warranty entirely. Even if you remove the antifreeze and replace the oil, the warranty is still voided.

I can’t confirm these points apply to microprocessors. I’ve never encountered anyone with an AMD claim denied for a processor issue unless the pins were damaged. If you have specific details about someone who ran PBO, please share them. That would be more helpful than my general opinion.
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krisjul
04-15-2019, 12:00 AM #21

The process of canceling means the warranty is completely eliminated and will never be restored. Removing the pins from your processor in a clear way will definitely cancel the warranty, and you’ll likely be denied any claim if you try to file one for it and it can’t be repaired.

To make it invalid doesn’t necessarily mean it’s gone forever—it just means it won’t be valid for the intended use. For example, if your device keeps freezing and doesn’t function properly when you’re using it normally, the support team might suggest resetting the CMOS and say “it works fine.” That’s considered closed: there’s no warranty coverage for attempting to operate it in PBO mode, and since it works without issues in the original version, no valid claim exists. But this doesn’t mean the warranty is canceled—it just means there’s no coverage for that specific use case.

If your device still fails even when set to factory settings, you might be able to file a warranty claim. This would require expert legal advice, as it’s complex. In such situations, arguments are usually not worth pursuing.

Invalidating and voiding are both critical terms in auto warranties. For instance, if you install an intake mod, the check engine light will turn on. If you bring it in for repair, they might cancel the engine warranty even if the issue is unrelated to the mod—until you switch back to the original model. If the problem persists and the return to stock doesn’t fix it, they’ll repair it. It wasn’t voided.

However, using antifreeze instead of oil and letting it run until it seizes will cancel the engine warranty entirely. Even if you remove the antifreeze and replace the oil, the warranty is still voided.

I can’t confirm these points apply to microprocessors. I’ve never encountered anyone with an AMD claim denied for a processor issue unless the pins were damaged. If you have specific details about someone who ran PBO, please share them. That would be more helpful than my general opinion.

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Laminate_
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04-15-2019, 03:22 AM
#22
Here you will find information on when a contract may be considered invalid. Understanding these points is essential. Contracts are formal agreements between parties that must meet specific legal requirements to remain valid under both state and federal regulations. If any necessary components are missing or not fulfilled, the contract could lose its validity. It’s important to address this issue promptly.

When a contract becomes invalid, it may fail to be enforced by law. This can happen if certain conditions aren’t satisfied. Such situations should be avoided at all costs.

A contract turns void when it no longer meets legal standards. This means it cannot be upheld by the law from its inception. Once void, the agreement is free from any obligations.

A contract becomes voidable under particular circumstances. These include threats or coercion, mental incapacity, lack of consent, mistakes made by both sides, fraudulent claims, or misrepresentation. If a party makes false statements or fails to disclose key information, the contract may be set aside.

Some contracts retain legal force even after they are signed but can later be rescinded by courts. These are distinct from contracts that are outright invalid.

For more details, you can refer to the provided links. Keep in mind that navigating legal matters can be complex, and it’s best to seek professional guidance when needed.
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Laminate_
04-15-2019, 03:22 AM #22

Here you will find information on when a contract may be considered invalid. Understanding these points is essential. Contracts are formal agreements between parties that must meet specific legal requirements to remain valid under both state and federal regulations. If any necessary components are missing or not fulfilled, the contract could lose its validity. It’s important to address this issue promptly.

When a contract becomes invalid, it may fail to be enforced by law. This can happen if certain conditions aren’t satisfied. Such situations should be avoided at all costs.

A contract turns void when it no longer meets legal standards. This means it cannot be upheld by the law from its inception. Once void, the agreement is free from any obligations.

A contract becomes voidable under particular circumstances. These include threats or coercion, mental incapacity, lack of consent, mistakes made by both sides, fraudulent claims, or misrepresentation. If a party makes false statements or fails to disclose key information, the contract may be set aside.

Some contracts retain legal force even after they are signed but can later be rescinded by courts. These are distinct from contracts that are outright invalid.

For more details, you can refer to the provided links. Keep in mind that navigating legal matters can be complex, and it’s best to seek professional guidance when needed.

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Narava
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04-22-2019, 01:07 AM
#23
It delves quite extensively into legal interpretation, particularly because merely using a term isn't sufficient when context matters.
And besides: I haven't been convinced that simply overclocking automatically cancels the warranty for AMD's processors. It's especially confusing given that such actions would likely fall under an implied warranty of fitness per Magnusson-Moss. When the product is advertised, clearly labeled as 'overclockable' in documentation and packaging, it becomes difficult to argue that doing so constitutes misuse or abuse. Perhaps this is why I've never encountered a situation where someone overclocked and had their warranty claim denied.
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Narava
04-22-2019, 01:07 AM #23

It delves quite extensively into legal interpretation, particularly because merely using a term isn't sufficient when context matters.
And besides: I haven't been convinced that simply overclocking automatically cancels the warranty for AMD's processors. It's especially confusing given that such actions would likely fall under an implied warranty of fitness per Magnusson-Moss. When the product is advertised, clearly labeled as 'overclockable' in documentation and packaging, it becomes difficult to argue that doing so constitutes misuse or abuse. Perhaps this is why I've never encountered a situation where someone overclocked and had their warranty claim denied.

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mp3matt
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04-22-2019, 03:33 AM
#24
As long as you avoid damaging the CPU beyond a million volts, it will be difficult for AMD to claim you caused it to fail using PBO.
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mp3matt
04-22-2019, 03:33 AM #24

As long as you avoid damaging the CPU beyond a million volts, it will be difficult for AMD to claim you caused it to fail using PBO.

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rkt33
Junior Member
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04-22-2019, 09:09 AM
#25
Or operate it at very high temperatures. Properly executed PBO allows the processor's boosting system to manage both voltage and clock speed, enabling adjustments as workload increases to maintain safe temperatures.

As you mentioned... AMD must provide a valid reason before canceling the warranty. This can be done simply by damaging pins or shipping issues during the RMA process. However, if you claim misuse due to overclocking, it might be possible—but the effort required would likely exceed just sending them a refurbished unit for replacement.

Regarding processor health... using your device regularly does affect its lifespan. Enabling PBO to increase usage will accelerate wear, and operating harder will worsen degradation faster.

And concerning speed improvements... it probably won’t be significant enough considering most people upgrade every five years. I doubt it makes a real difference, but if you notice faster wear, removing the PBO and running it at full stock should restore stability, which is what you’d naturally do otherwise.
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rkt33
04-22-2019, 09:09 AM #25

Or operate it at very high temperatures. Properly executed PBO allows the processor's boosting system to manage both voltage and clock speed, enabling adjustments as workload increases to maintain safe temperatures.

As you mentioned... AMD must provide a valid reason before canceling the warranty. This can be done simply by damaging pins or shipping issues during the RMA process. However, if you claim misuse due to overclocking, it might be possible—but the effort required would likely exceed just sending them a refurbished unit for replacement.

Regarding processor health... using your device regularly does affect its lifespan. Enabling PBO to increase usage will accelerate wear, and operating harder will worsen degradation faster.

And concerning speed improvements... it probably won’t be significant enough considering most people upgrade every five years. I doubt it makes a real difference, but if you notice faster wear, removing the PBO and running it at full stock should restore stability, which is what you’d naturally do otherwise.

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