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Does increasing clock speed reduce product longevity?

Does increasing clock speed reduce product longevity?

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MickeyyyPvP
Junior Member
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01-17-2023, 11:07 PM
#11
Gen 1 processors are simple to overclock, offering around 30% performance improvements. I've seen a 25% boost with the 600/700/900 series GPU. But I'm hesitant about anything under 3-5 years old due to concerns.
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MickeyyyPvP
01-17-2023, 11:07 PM #11

Gen 1 processors are simple to overclock, offering around 30% performance improvements. I've seen a 25% boost with the 600/700/900 series GPU. But I'm hesitant about anything under 3-5 years old due to concerns.

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Mr_Floobiful
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01-23-2023, 11:07 PM
#12
personally, thinking about how everything will improve automatically, I don’t think there’s a need for manual adjustments in normal use. the recent GPUs showed almost no improvement from using a manual overclock compared to letting the boost feature handle it. you might gain a few extra MHz or extend the stability, but in practice it didn’t make much difference.

the cpus are different, but they’re also moving toward automatic overclocking features. amd processors will now manage themselves as long as there’s enough thermal and voltage capacity. therefore, i’d focus on good cooling and a reliable motherboard setup and let the chip handle things daily. we’ll get more insights from reviews of the new models soon, but the 2000 series didn’t see much benefit from manual overclocking either. i don’t foresee a strong reason to manually adjust those chips either—just a guess based on what I’ve experienced before.
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Mr_Floobiful
01-23-2023, 11:07 PM #12

personally, thinking about how everything will improve automatically, I don’t think there’s a need for manual adjustments in normal use. the recent GPUs showed almost no improvement from using a manual overclock compared to letting the boost feature handle it. you might gain a few extra MHz or extend the stability, but in practice it didn’t make much difference.

the cpus are different, but they’re also moving toward automatic overclocking features. amd processors will now manage themselves as long as there’s enough thermal and voltage capacity. therefore, i’d focus on good cooling and a reliable motherboard setup and let the chip handle things daily. we’ll get more insights from reviews of the new models soon, but the 2000 series didn’t see much benefit from manual overclocking either. i don’t foresee a strong reason to manually adjust those chips either—just a guess based on what I’ve experienced before.

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edibo
Member
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01-25-2023, 02:38 AM
#13
I bought an i5 4690k a long time ago with the hope of upgrading someday. The opportunity came a few months back when I realized I wouldn’t need it anymore, as I was planning to switch to Ryzen soon. Since I often play BF1—a demanding game that pushes my 4690 to its limits—I finally decided to give it an OC try. I quickly discovered that I’m limited to around 4.4 GHz, because the extra voltage required goes beyond (1.25+) and causes my temperatures to spike into the 90s almost instantly due to my average Hyper 212 cooler. Still, I’m satisfied with 4.4, which is a solid boost compared to the stock 4.1.
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edibo
01-25-2023, 02:38 AM #13

I bought an i5 4690k a long time ago with the hope of upgrading someday. The opportunity came a few months back when I realized I wouldn’t need it anymore, as I was planning to switch to Ryzen soon. Since I often play BF1—a demanding game that pushes my 4690 to its limits—I finally decided to give it an OC try. I quickly discovered that I’m limited to around 4.4 GHz, because the extra voltage required goes beyond (1.25+) and causes my temperatures to spike into the 90s almost instantly due to my average Hyper 212 cooler. Still, I’m satisfied with 4.4, which is a solid boost compared to the stock 4.1.

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LOVAC13
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01-26-2023, 08:05 AM
#14
Snookslayer: Your CPU's base clock is 3.5 GHz, but with Intel Turbo Boost technology, single cores can reach up to 3.9 to 4.0 GHz. Increasing from 3.5 to 4.4 GHz across all cores provides a major performance gain. Be sure to turn off Intel Turbo Boost when overclocking, as it may show incorrect readings in monitoring tools. Alternatively, consider removing your CPU to lower the core temperature by up to 20-25°C, though this involves a risk of damage. Using liquid metal between IHS and the die could also help maintain performance.
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LOVAC13
01-26-2023, 08:05 AM #14

Snookslayer: Your CPU's base clock is 3.5 GHz, but with Intel Turbo Boost technology, single cores can reach up to 3.9 to 4.0 GHz. Increasing from 3.5 to 4.4 GHz across all cores provides a major performance gain. Be sure to turn off Intel Turbo Boost when overclocking, as it may show incorrect readings in monitoring tools. Alternatively, consider removing your CPU to lower the core temperature by up to 20-25°C, though this involves a risk of damage. Using liquid metal between IHS and the die could also help maintain performance.

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liomas
Junior Member
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01-26-2023, 04:49 PM
#15
Fagetti - thank you for your feedback. "Disable intel turbo boost." That's it.
I remember HWMonitor displayed 4.1 across all cores during BF1 before the overclock, which I thought was the default boost setting. A 4.4 felt like progress, though it's hard to gauge exactly how much the FPS increased, since each server/map behaves differently.
Regarding "delidding"... I've seen videos, but I'm not that experienced. I'll let experts like you and Linus handle that.
I'm actually considering getting a noisier Noctua unit to help overcome my current limitations.
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liomas
01-26-2023, 04:49 PM #15

Fagetti - thank you for your feedback. "Disable intel turbo boost." That's it.
I remember HWMonitor displayed 4.1 across all cores during BF1 before the overclock, which I thought was the default boost setting. A 4.4 felt like progress, though it's hard to gauge exactly how much the FPS increased, since each server/map behaves differently.
Regarding "delidding"... I've seen videos, but I'm not that experienced. I'll let experts like you and Linus handle that.
I'm actually considering getting a noisier Noctua unit to help overcome my current limitations.

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BigCraike
Member
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01-26-2023, 11:17 PM
#16
The expected real-world life of a CPU exceeds twenty years. An OC can extend it further, but as previously discussed, this is entirely dependent on the individual. My PentiumII at 350MHz with a 400MHz OC has been running smoothly for two decades. As long as you keep one factor in mind—physical lifespan differs greatly from usable lifespan—the situation remains unchanged. Software, operating systems, and requirements will reduce its longevity to around ten years or less. Very few people attempt to push older hardware with modern games on an LGA775 setup. The processors are too slow, lack the necessary IPC, and rarely have sufficient RAM to run contemporary games or even basic OS applications effectively.

So is it really important whether you halve the CPU’s physical lifespan with a near-maximum OC? It’s likely that within the next five to ten years the CPU will become outdated from a software perspective, making any remaining physical life irrelevant.
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BigCraike
01-26-2023, 11:17 PM #16

The expected real-world life of a CPU exceeds twenty years. An OC can extend it further, but as previously discussed, this is entirely dependent on the individual. My PentiumII at 350MHz with a 400MHz OC has been running smoothly for two decades. As long as you keep one factor in mind—physical lifespan differs greatly from usable lifespan—the situation remains unchanged. Software, operating systems, and requirements will reduce its longevity to around ten years or less. Very few people attempt to push older hardware with modern games on an LGA775 setup. The processors are too slow, lack the necessary IPC, and rarely have sufficient RAM to run contemporary games or even basic OS applications effectively.

So is it really important whether you halve the CPU’s physical lifespan with a near-maximum OC? It’s likely that within the next five to ten years the CPU will become outdated from a software perspective, making any remaining physical life irrelevant.

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Backstaber970
Senior Member
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01-26-2023, 11:58 PM
#17
Depends of the level of oc/voltage/cooling.
Doubt a cpu will last past 1y if continously clocked to max under LN2.
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Backstaber970
01-26-2023, 11:58 PM #17

Depends of the level of oc/voltage/cooling.
Doubt a cpu will last past 1y if continously clocked to max under LN2.

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EmeraldPvP_MC
Member
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02-02-2023, 04:28 PM
#18
Turn off Intel Turbo Boost completely and check if you still reach 4.1ghz. It’s possible you might crash if the voltage isn’t sufficient and you’re only using a few cores at that speed with Turbo enabled. There’s no built-in boost feature—just Intel Turbo Boost. You should likely manage to hit 4.0 even at normal voltages across all cores.
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EmeraldPvP_MC
02-02-2023, 04:28 PM #18

Turn off Intel Turbo Boost completely and check if you still reach 4.1ghz. It’s possible you might crash if the voltage isn’t sufficient and you’re only using a few cores at that speed with Turbo enabled. There’s no built-in boost feature—just Intel Turbo Boost. You should likely manage to hit 4.0 even at normal voltages across all cores.

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stuff048
Member
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02-08-2023, 12:56 PM
#19
The factors that destroy any semiconductor are heat and voltage. Every time power is applied to a semiconductor component, it diminishes its operational life, measured as the time before it begins to produce unpredictable errors and malfunctions. The more intense the workload, the greater the impact on its longevity, even without overclocking. This is how semiconductors behave naturally.

Overclocking can further shorten its lifespan if the goal is to push it beyond normal limits and handle heavier processing demands. However, maintaining a reasonable temperature during such efforts usually prevents significant damage. In practice, moderate overclocking with stable temperatures won’t noticeably reduce the device’s life.

Even if pushed continuously around the clock, the processor will eventually become outdated, obsolete, and require replacement well before it starts to fail.

Regarding warranty implications, it's interesting how this is perceived. Many claim it voids the warranty, but in the United States, there exists a General Warranty of Merchantability that ensures products meet their intended purpose.
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stuff048
02-08-2023, 12:56 PM #19

The factors that destroy any semiconductor are heat and voltage. Every time power is applied to a semiconductor component, it diminishes its operational life, measured as the time before it begins to produce unpredictable errors and malfunctions. The more intense the workload, the greater the impact on its longevity, even without overclocking. This is how semiconductors behave naturally.

Overclocking can further shorten its lifespan if the goal is to push it beyond normal limits and handle heavier processing demands. However, maintaining a reasonable temperature during such efforts usually prevents significant damage. In practice, moderate overclocking with stable temperatures won’t noticeably reduce the device’s life.

Even if pushed continuously around the clock, the processor will eventually become outdated, obsolete, and require replacement well before it starts to fail.

Regarding warranty implications, it's interesting how this is perceived. Many claim it voids the warranty, but in the United States, there exists a General Warranty of Merchantability that ensures products meet their intended purpose.

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pspsmith1998
Member
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02-14-2023, 11:32 PM
#20
It seems like you were planning to adjust the voltage but didn't want to go all in. You probably just hoped your CPU and GPU would perform a bit better.
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pspsmith1998
02-14-2023, 11:32 PM #20

It seems like you were planning to adjust the voltage but didn't want to go all in. You probably just hoped your CPU and GPU would perform a bit better.

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